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| e0ne | hi. does anybody know when will be new python-openstackclient released? | 09:54 |
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| Qwazerty | Hi there, I have an issue with oslo_utils v2.2, the import on monotonic does not work on python3 and is not catched | 09:56 |
| Qwazerty | on http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.utils/tree/oslo_utils/timeutils.py l.27 | 09:56 |
| Qwazerty | should I report this? | 09:56 |
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| dukhlov | Hello | 11:45 |
| dukhlov | I'm working on implementation driver for oslo messaging using 'pika' amqp client | 11:46 |
| dims_ | sileht: ^^ this may be interesting to you | 11:46 |
| dukhlov | and now I have quesition connected to old impl_rabbit driver | 11:47 |
| dukhlov | oslo.messaging related question: I look at the impl_rabbit driver implementation and see that here consuming with acknoledges used. So when we consume message we should ack or requeue it back. I think that for RPC it would be better to use messages without acknowlegment because in current situation we can receive the same request twice in case of network problem or restart of RMQ. And it is hard to handle it on server side. Now we have Processe | 11:48 |
| dukhlov | d message cache to avoid this but we can have more then one consumers of the queue and it is partial solution of the problem. If we will use consuming without acknowlegement it will be more predictable. Yes we can loose message but if it was cast - it is ok, if it was call client will get connection error or timeout and can handle this situation according to application logic. | 11:48 |
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| dukhlov | So do we have use cases for using acked consuming with rpc? | 11:50 |
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| dims_ | dukhlov: looks like sileht is not around today | 12:05 |
| dukhlov | dims_: ah, I see what is his time zone? | 12:08 |
| dims_ | usually eurpoe | 12:09 |
| dims_ | europe | 12:09 |
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| sileht | dukhlov, requeue is for the notification stuffs, not really the rpc stuffs, application that consume notifications have to deal with the twice message issue | 13:05 |
| sileht | dukhlov, for the rpc stuff at first glance, I agree ack/requeue looks useless for us | 13:06 |
| dukhlov | yes, for notifications it makes sense, but there we use listen_for_notification driver's method | 13:07 |
| dukhlov | and here we have another logic | 13:07 |
| dukhlov | sileht: another question about durable queues - it will save messages in case of rabbitmq restart | 13:08 |
| dukhlov | sileht: but in this case client will loose connection and will never get reply | 13:09 |
| sileht | dukhlov, the current driver have many issues that hard to fix without breaking 'rolling upgrade' stuffs of openstack | 13:11 |
| dukhlov | client consider that call was not executed or executed with an error or probably executed correctly but doesn't have any chance to check it and should recover this situation somehow | 13:11 |
| sileht | dukhlov, any fix that need to change a queue/exchange attribute that need delete/create the queue/exchange break rolling upgrade | 13:12 |
| sileht | dukhlov, that why we still have durable/auto_delete on many queues that should not | 13:12 |
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| sileht | dukhlov, because your are writting a new driver you don't have to deal with 'rolling upgrade' so you can do everything you thing is good for us :) | 13:13 |
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| sileht | I will be off for one week, soon, so if you have any other question | 13:15 |
| dukhlov | sileht: I see, but I am newcommer for oslo_messaging and therefore trying to share my thoughts and get feedback | 13:15 |
| dukhlov | mmm yes, one more question I have | 13:15 |
| sileht | dukhlov, you seems have already good understanding of what can be improved :) | 13:16 |
| dukhlov | thank you:) | 13:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Marian Horban proposed openstack/oslo.service: Added wsgi functionality https://review.openstack.org/204003 | 13:17 |
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| dukhlov | sileht:https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo_messaging/_drivers/amqpdriver.py#L437 | 13:20 |
| dukhlov | sileht: here is 3 consumers declared for rpc server | 13:20 |
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| dukhlov | I see usecases for first 2 topics | 13:21 |
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| dukhlov | <target.topic> and <target.topic>.<target.server> | 13:22 |
| dukhlov | but what is usecase for fanout consumer? | 13:22 |
| sileht | dukhlov, one to the request on random server, one to a chosen server, one to all servers | 13:23 |
| sileht | dukhlov, take a look to the public API: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.messaging/target.html | 13:23 |
| sileht | dukhlov, it define what topic/server/fanout means from oslo.messaging point of view | 13:24 |
| dukhlov | and what is concrete usecase form openstack 1 request to many servers? | 13:24 |
| dukhlov | because it looks to not like rpc | 13:25 |
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| dukhlov | probably this functionality is needed but may be it should be another pattern, not rpc | 13:25 |
| sileht | dukhlov, I agree, but this is used like this since the begin of openstack | 13:26 |
| sileht | dukhlov, remove this it just a too big tasks | 13:27 |
| dukhlov | ok, so correct way is leave it as is for now and maybe refactor in future? | 13:27 |
| sileht | dukhlov, looks a better plan, I don't really known how many people use this fanout API | 13:28 |
| dukhlov | sileht: ok, clear. | 13:29 |
| dukhlov | sileht: thank you for your helpful info. | 13:30 |
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| sileht | dukhlov, for example in nova: the scheduler says to all computes, please sync send your local vm instances state/info to the condutor | 13:30 |
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| sileht | we can miss update because of this but this is not really important so | 13:31 |
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| sileht | dukhlov, your welcome, I have to go now see you | 13:32 |
| dukhlov | sileht: Have a good weekend and next-week vacation if it will be vacation | 13:32 |
| sileht | I will :) | 13:32 |
| sileht | thx | 13:32 |
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| mriedem | dims_: easy peasy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206711/ | 14:04 |
| dims_ | mriedem: done | 14:05 |
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| harlowja_at_home | dhellmann, dimsum__ ^ if u get a chance :) | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | discovered someone made a PR for that one, and fixed it (since they never resubmitted the code for that) | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | https://github.com/openstack/taskflow/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed (old and dead) | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | does anyone know if https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed and such are useful? | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | sileht, ^ ? | 16:06 |
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| klindgren_ | sileht, you around? Have a question re: olso_messaging | 17:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Marian Horban proposed openstack/oslo.service: Added wsgi functionality https://review.openstack.org/204003 | 17:50 |
| harlowja | klindgren_ probably just leave the question, he's in france soooo may be better just to ask and wait ;) | 17:51 |
| harlowja | but don't wait to long, since its friday | 17:51 |
| klindgren_ | hahah | 17:51 |
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| klindgren_ | Anyway - we were recently impacted by a bad network link between nova conductor and the nova db. 1 of 12 uplinks started taking ~20% errors, which would have resulted in a max of 1.5% of new connections going over the link taking 20% errors (or so says the networking people). The problem is this bascially brougth then entire environment to its knee's with the only hting really being logged being: | 17:57 |
| klindgren_ | is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12022702/ | 17:58 |
| klindgren_ | with: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/stable/kilo/oslo_messaging/transport.py#L83-L90 | 17:58 |
| klindgren_ | IF I am ready this correctly the default for these messages being sent over rpc is to never timeout and never retry in case of failures. Setting these to be configureable - or atleast retrying - once seems like it would make this communication more robbust | 18:01 |
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| dimsum__ | klindgren_: isn't there a rabbit_max_retries? | 18:08 |
| harlowja | dimsum__ dhellmann https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210549/ (another fun one that i'll work on formalizing more) ;) | 18:09 |
| * harlowja keeps the popcorn business alive (by supplying popcorn worthy specs, ha) | 18:09 | |
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| dimsum__ | harlowja: ++ :) that's a tough nut to crack | 18:11 |
| harlowja | ;) | 18:12 |
| harlowja | def | 18:12 |
| harlowja | gotta start somewhere though | 18:12 |
| harlowja | imho if openstack can't figure that one out, we sorta screwed :-/ | 18:13 |
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| harlowja | (for lack of better words, ha) | 18:13 |
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| harlowja | * if openstack (as a community) not as a 'thing' ,lol | 18:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use graphs as the underlying structure of patterns https://review.openstack.org/210171 | 18:25 |
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| wokuma | Hello, is there anyone out there that can answer some oslo_i18n questions around _message? | 19:06 |
| wokuma | I would like to have "dynamic" access to the locale catalogs...meaning my program needs to be able to translate strings by simply passing in the locale string. | 19:08 |
| wokuma | obj = _message.Message(message, domain='mydomain') followed by an oslo_i18n.translate(obj, locale) works for me. | 19:10 |
| wokuma | My question is, is this the correct way to do it as the oslo_i18n._message has a leading '_'. | 19:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use graphs as the underlying structure of patterns https://review.openstack.org/210171 | 19:24 |
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| mriedem | dimsum__: shouldn't this be oslo_middleware.healthcheck now? https://github.com/openstack/oslo.middleware/blob/master/oslo_middleware/healthcheck/__init__.py#L73 | 19:28 |
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| mriedem | maybe not, guess i'm not sure what uses that in a setup.cfg as an extension point | 19:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/oslo-specs: WIP: Adds oslo.windows project proposal spec https://review.openstack.org/209193 | 19:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/automaton: Provide a finite machine build() method https://review.openstack.org/203284 | 20:02 |
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| mriedem | OSLO NAMESPACES WHY?! | 20:29 |
| dimsum__ | mriedem: what's up? | 20:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.middleware: Declare some methods static https://review.openstack.org/210260 | 20:30 |
| mriedem | ruined my life | 20:31 |
| mriedem | so some of the cool kids like me support branches longer than community right | 20:31 |
| mriedem | so i have an icehouse branch, and nova caps neutronclient on icehouse, but neutronclient 2.3.10 doesn't cap oslo.i18n, and latest oslo.i18n doesn't have namespace support | 20:31 |
| mriedem | so kaboom! | 20:31 |
| dimsum__ | i hear ya. | 20:32 |
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| harlowja | mriedem and/or pip dependency resolving sucks, ha | 20:58 |
| harlowja | i double hear u, been figuring out how to make pip do the right thing, ha | 20:58 |
| mriedem | well my out of tree solution is to pre-install the caps that i need in tox.ini before processing requirements files | 20:59 |
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| harlowja | ya, my solution is automation to upon checkout of all the repos, for say icehouse, manipulate all the requirements files in an automated way as i desire, ha | 21:01 |
| harlowja | and if its still being retarded, can do other stuff, lol | 21:02 |
| harlowja | *where it == pip | 21:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use graphs as the underlying structure of patterns https://review.openstack.org/210171 | 21:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Add atom priority ability https://review.openstack.org/210620 | 22:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Add atom priority ability https://review.openstack.org/210620 | 22:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Only remove all 'next_nodes' that were done https://review.openstack.org/210635 | 23:24 |
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