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| tarun | Hi i want to understand the oslo messaging framework in openstack. I am trying to create an application which will fetch all the ports based on owner or some other filter criteria by doing a rpc call from my application to rabbitmq server. | 06:21 |
| tarun | Could anyone help from where i should start | 06:21 |
| tarun | i have checked some online tutorials for oslo messaging working | 06:21 |
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| gus | Dear oslo-drivers: I'm walking through the new-oslo-project instructions and I'm at the bit where I need to change the Driver to oslo-drivers. As expected, I don't have permissions to do this because I've just changed the maintainer to oslo-drivers. | 06:36 |
| gus | Please change the Driver to oslo-drivers on https://launchpad.net/oslo.privsep, kthx. | 06:37 |
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| sileht | gus, I'm not aware of this new lib, do you have any reference about this new lib adoption by oslo program ? | 06:47 |
| gus | sileht: well it doesn't exist yet, which is why it's new ;) | 06:47 |
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| gus | We discussed it in a rootwrap-futures session in Vancouver, and when I since asked dhellmann he suggested I just create the oslo.privsep directly rather than create it in incubator and then graduate it out (or similar). | 06:48 |
| gus | sileht: I'm just blindly following the oslo "new project" docs at this point, so guidance is welcome. | 06:49 |
| gus | sileht: draft spec is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204073/ | 06:49 |
| sileht | gus, this is what i'm looking for thx :) | 06:50 |
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| gpaz | Good morning, I m not sure if its the right place to ask, I m working on something in Mistral, and I want to add to the configuration file under some section some subsection. Actually I want to give the admin ability to add dynamically parameters. For example under section [policy] the admin will able to add [[policy_A]], [[policy_B]]… etc… Each policy_X contain few variable. Is anyone know if with oslo_config I able to do th | 07:52 |
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| gpaz | I tried to use : 'cfg.MultiOpt' but I didnt able to use it for multiple "objects" (I do for multi str or int) | 07:54 |
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| dhellmann | gus: I updated the driver on oslo.privsep for you | 13:02 |
| gpaz | Hi, I m not sure if its the right place to ask, I m working on something in Mistral, and I want to add to the configuration file under some section some subsection. Actually I want to give the admin ability to add dynamically parameters. For example under section [policy] the admin will able to add [[policy_A]], [[policy_B]]… etc… Each policy_X contain few variable. Is anyone know if with oslo_config I able to do that ? | 13:03 |
| dhellmann | tarun: most of the services prefer being queried via the rest API instead of RPC; are you building something within the neutron project so that you have permission to talk to it via RPC? | 13:04 |
| dhellmann | gpaz: the ironic team does something similar, I think | 13:04 |
| dhellmann | you need to discover the names of the dynamic groups, but then you can register the same option names within those groups repeatedly | 13:04 |
| dhellmann | maybe it's cinder, not ironic -- one of them does this for backend configuration parameters | 13:05 |
| dhellmann | gpaz: but before you go too far, what sorts of policies are you managing this way? | 13:05 |
| gpaz | dhellmann, well thanks... if they are it really helped ... I will check there | 13:05 |
| dhellmann | gpaz: what is this for? | 13:06 |
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| gpaz | dhellmann We want to implement kind of DB cleanup (for “old” tasks) … there will be a default policy but admin user will able to add few more policies . each policy contain 3 parameters … | 13:08 |
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| gpaz | dhellmann, policies are comming from the config file | 13:10 |
| dhellmann | gpaz: that sounds like the sort of thing a lot of projects would put in the database and edit with an admin API, but maybe it's more static than that? | 13:10 |
| gpaz | dhellmann, I m not sure I got you, what do you mean ? | 13:12 |
| dhellmann | gpaz: nova flavors, for example | 13:12 |
| gpaz | dhellmann, in mistral you have the option to run a cron that running every x time, so if you few of them you will find your disk/DB full very fast | 13:12 |
| gpaz | dhellmann, thats the different I think | 13:13 |
| dhellmann | gpaz: how often do you expect this list of policies to change? | 13:13 |
| gpaz | dhellmann, should be change for now. only once when you restart / raise your mistral engine | 13:13 |
| gpaz | shouldnt* | 13:14 |
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| gpaz | dhellmann, from that point you (user) are only chossing from the available policies by admin | 13:14 |
| dhellmann | and you'll store references to the policy name in the database for each thing that wants to use it? | 13:14 |
| gpaz | dhellmann, no , no DB involved | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | where does mistral store its jobs? (sorry, I'm not that familiar with the project) | 13:15 |
| gpaz | dhellmann, the jobs are in the DB yes, but not the policies | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | how does mistral know which policy to use? | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | if there are 3 in the configuration file, what causes mistral to pick one of them? | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | gpaz: you said these policies were related to cleaning up old tasks in the database, so who sets which policy is used for which job, and how is that set? | 13:17 |
| gpaz | dhellmann, this is what I m working on right now ... task will runnig every M time and will filter the expired policies ... etc | 13:17 |
| dikonoor | bknudson: edleafe: Would you know who is the right person to contact for nova GMR (Gur Meditation Report) based queries on an an environment where SELinux is set to enforcing | 13:17 |
| gpaz | dhellmann, its global. Do you familiar with mistral a little bit ? | 13:18 |
| bknudson | dikonoor: I don't know. | 13:18 |
| dhellmann | gpaz: not really, sorry. What do you mean by "filter the expired policies"? | 13:19 |
| gpaz | at first step every task will use the same policy ... at next pahse we want to use different policy for each task (user will choose) from a list that he will get from admin | 13:19 |
| gpaz | policy = cleanup_policy | 13:19 |
| dhellmann | gpaz: ok, at the point where you're having the user choose the policies, you will want them to be in the database to ensure referential integrity, right? so why not just go ahead and put them there now to save yourself the headache of having to migrate them | 13:20 |
| dikonoor | bknudson: Thanks..I don't know where I can find Daniel Berrange..Don't seem like he's in this IRC chat now..but he might have some clue. | 13:20 |
| dikonoor | Anyone else around knows? | 13:21 |
| dhellmann | dikonoor: you're looking for help with oslo.reports? | 13:21 |
| gpaz | dhellmann, well maybe you are right for the future … currently its just phase 1 for this feature so we are trying not to change so much and get this ability with a very simple code | 13:24 |
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| dikonoor | dhellmann: yeah..this one..https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/report/guru_meditation_report.py | 13:25 |
| gpaz | dhellmann, you are more than welcome to give a look here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/expiration-policies-for-executions | 13:26 |
| dhellmann | gpaz: I see. Your deployers might thank you for taking the extra steps now, but it wouldn't be terribly hard to build a tool to import the policies from the config file | 13:26 |
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| dhellmann | dikonoor: IIRC, most of that work was done by Solly Ross | 13:27 |
| dikonoor | dhellmann: Yeah..But I don't think Solly Ross is in the chat now.I guess his IRC id is directxman12 . Any idea when he's generally around? | 13:28 |
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| dhellmann | dikonoor: I haven't seen him around for a while, sorry. | 13:29 |
| dikonoor | dhellmann: How about Daniel Berrange? Don't see him around either | 13:29 |
| dhellmann | I wonder if he's at the nova mid-cycle this week | 13:30 |
| dhellmann | either way, he's more likely to be found in the nova channel than here | 13:30 |
| dikonoor | dhellmann: Do you know his irc name? | 13:31 |
| dhellmann | hmm, no, I don't. I don't see one registered on his launchpad page, either | 13:32 |
| dhellmann | that id is berrange, though, so maybe it's the same | 13:33 |
| dikonoor | dhellmann: yeah..ok..Thanks dhellmann..I will wait for him to be around.. | 13:34 |
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| tarun | dhellmann: Hi yes i am building an application and i require to fetch some port details from neutron using rpc machenism | 13:39 |
| dhellmann | tarun: the RPC APIs are typically considered to be private, and only meant to be used within each application -- no (or few) backwards compatibility guarantees are made | 13:40 |
| tarun | dhellmann: i am just trying to make it via rpc machenism also. using rest api's, i was able to fetch the details | 13:40 |
| dhellmann | so unless you're building a new neutron service, I would stick to REST | 13:40 |
| dhellmann | if it is a new neutron service, then the neutron team should be able to advise you about which RPC calls you can make to get the data you need | 13:40 |
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| tarun | dhellmann: ok thanks for the info. I'll check if i really need rpc machenism only or rest is fine | 13:41 |
| tarun | dhellmann: Thanks for the help | 13:42 |
| dhellmann | tarun: sure, any time! | 13:42 |
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| dhellmann | harlowja: have you seen https://pypi.python.org/pypi/metamodule ? | 13:52 |
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| dims_ | ozamiatin: can you please bless this easy fix? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203309/ | 13:59 |
| ozamiatin | dims_: sure | 14:00 |
| dims_ | ozamiatin: thanks! | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | dims_: is the CI system working again? | 14:05 |
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| dims_ | dhellmann: the oslo.vmware thing was fixed last night, the CI broke for another reason this morning which is also fixed (looking at recently launched jobs on zuul status page) | 14:09 |
| dhellmann | dims_: yeah, it was the thing this morning I meant | 14:09 |
| dims_ | y that's flowing again | 14:09 |
| dhellmann | I hadn't seen an announcement that it was fixed, so I thought you might know more recent info than I had :-) | 14:10 |
| dhellmann | cool | 14:10 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: CI is slowly recovering, please be patient while the backlog is worked through. | 14:34 | |
| lifeless | dims_: so requirements updates to oslo projects - is it ok to +2A them unilaterally? | 14:34 |
| dims_ | lifeless: yep | 14:34 |
| dims_ | anything from the proposal bot | 14:35 |
| lifeless | thanks | 14:35 |
| dims_ | transifex and requirements lifeless | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexander Tivelkov proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Compound Field validation (WiP) https://review.openstack.org/196819 | 14:37 |
| lifeless | is that documented somewhere? | 14:40 |
| dims_ | lifeless: no, i haven't written it down anywhere | 14:43 |
| lifeless | dims_: where would be a reasonable place to write it down? | 14:43 |
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| dims_ | that's what i was thinking :) | 14:43 |
| dims_ | probably here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Review_Links | 14:44 |
| lifeless | dims_: would you like me to? | 14:44 |
| dims_ | lifeless: sure thanks! | 14:44 |
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| lifeless | dims_: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Review_policies season to taste | 14:48 |
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| dims_ | thanks lifeless | 14:49 |
| dims_ | zzzeek: seen this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/1477080 | 14:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1477080 in oslo.db "No _writer_maker attribute on enginefacade.writer" [Undecided,New] | 14:49 |
| zzzeek | dims_: hooray our first bug ! | 14:50 |
| dims_ | zzzeek: :) | 14:51 |
| dhellmann | dims_, lifeless : we have policies in our specs repo, we could write it there | 14:51 |
| dims_ | dhellmann: ah right | 14:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-incubator: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/204400 | 15:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Fix lack of space between functions https://review.openstack.org/204681 | 15:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/204426 | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use an exit stack vs nested start/stop https://review.openstack.org/204309 | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Give the GC more of a break with regard to cycles https://review.openstack.org/200370 | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use singledispatch functions instead of isinstance checks https://review.openstack.org/181192 | 15:58 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: do we have code review stuff in there now (and thsu I've caused a split), or would that be a bettermore logical place to moveto? | 16:50 |
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| dhellmann | lifeless: hmm, no, I think the existing policies (http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/#team-policies) are more process stuff, so I don't think you've "split" anything | 16:51 |
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| dhellmann | we have talked about moving as much as we can into the reviewable repos, so that's what I was thinking of for this, but I agree having one place is more important than having it in the perfect place | 16:52 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I may put up a patch at some point, but since there isn't any friction today, low pri | 16:53 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: ++ | 16:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.vmware: Remove username from logs https://review.openstack.org/201908 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Port the AMQP 1.0 driver to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/204696 | 17:19 |
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| dims_ | bknudson: this look ok? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202531/ | 19:33 |
| bknudson | dims_: close! | 19:34 |
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| dims_ | :) bknudson | 19:45 |
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| elmiko | hey all, i'm looking at converting a library from using the global CONF object to instead accepting a passed in ConfigOpts object. i'm looking at some examples in oslo.db and oslo.messaging, i'm curious though if anyone has thoughts on this matter? | 21:37 |
| elmiko | specifically, i'm wondering about registering the options. is it sufficent to clearly document and expect the end-users to ensure that they use the list_opts function to register, or am i asking for trouble? | 21:38 |
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