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| openstackgerrit | Boris Bobrov proposed openstack/oslo.db: Upgrade and downgrade based on revision existence https://review.openstack.org/201265 | 08:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.db: Test that concurrent sqlalchemy transactions don't block https://review.openstack.org/104436 | 09:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Allows to change defaults opts https://review.openstack.org/203339 | 11:01 |
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| dims_ | dhellmann: good morning, sorry for the late request...will you be able to host the oslo meeting today? i hit a bit of travel snafu as i'll be in a taxi cab heading to airport (nova mid-cycle) | 11:05 |
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| dhellmann | dims: sure thing | 13:44 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | dims: Doug beat me to this :P thanks for the cheat sheet! you can count on me if the guys can't make it next time | 13:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Boris Bobrov proposed openstack/oslo.db: Upgrade and downgrade based on revision existence https://review.openstack.org/201265 | 13:53 |
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| dhellmann | rpodolyaka: I could use some help filling in the agenda with current hot topics, if you have a few minutes | 13:54 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | dhellmann: sorry, was afk. how can I help you? | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | rpodolyaka1: I just thought we could brainstorm topics. I added the proposed library releases to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-meeting-agenda | 14:13 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | sure | 14:14 |
| rpodolyaka1 | so for oslo.db it's just tests, translations and requirements updates. no need for release at this point, probably | 14:15 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, I was going to propose doing a flush of all of those requirements updates next week | 14:15 |
| sileht | jd__, can you take a look to https://review.openstack.org/203339 ? | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | with 2 separate libs removing the oslo namespace this week, keeping other releases to a minimum is probably a good idea | 14:15 |
| rpodolyaka1 | heh, yeah | 14:16 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | 1 is oslo.messaging and the other one is? | 14:16 |
| sileht | dhellmann, can you take a look to https://review.openstack.org/203339 | 14:16 |
| dhellmann | rpodolyaka1: oslo.config | 14:16 |
| dhellmann | sileht: sure | 14:16 |
| rpodolyaka1 | ah, missed that | 14:16 |
| dhellmann | sileht: if you're going to rename that option, do you want to move it to the oslo_messaging group at the same time? | 14:17 |
| sileht | dhellmann, we don't have such group | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | sileht: really? I thought we set that up. hmm, ok. | 14:18 |
| sileht | dhellmann, only drivers have a subgroup | 14:18 |
| sileht | dhellmann, all other uses DEFAULT | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | ah, that's what I'm thinking of, ok | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | sileht: +2 with a comment on the test that you can ignore or address later | 14:20 |
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| sileht | dhellmann, ok thanks | 14:22 |
| sileht | dhellmann, I guess we should release a new version today, we close two critical bugs last week | 14:23 |
| dhellmann | sileht: messaging? | 14:23 |
| sileht | dhellmann, yes | 14:23 |
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| dhellmann | sileht: ok, would you double-check the sha we have in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/library-releases to make sure it includes those fixes? | 14:23 |
| dhellmann | sileht: this will be a 2.0.0 release, since it also includes dropping the oslo namespace (finally) | 14:24 |
| sileht | cool :) | 14:24 |
| jd__ | sileht: sure | 14:24 |
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| sileht | dhellmann, that's ok, the critical fix is in the list | 14:26 |
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| mriedem | haypo: are you good with this now? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202170/ | 14:29 |
| dhellmann | sileht: great, thanks for checking | 14:29 |
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| ozamiatin | droyal: around? | 14:37 |
| ozamiatin | droyal: hi, please take a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203645/ | 14:38 |
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| harlowja_at_home | eezhova, yt | 16:23 |
| eezhova | harlowja_at_home, I'm here | 16:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | oh hey, u mind jumping in #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | folks had a question about oslo.service :) | 16:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | eezhova, ^ | 16:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: Allows to change defaults opts https://review.openstack.org/203339 | 16:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris St. Pierre proposed openstack/oslo.config: Add regex validation to String type https://review.openstack.org/201638 | 16:50 |
| haypo | mriedem_away: i'm sorry, i'm at europython this week. i'm not sure that i will have time to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202170/ | 16:52 |
| haypo | mriedem_away: maybe tomorrow | 16:52 |
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| dims_ | heads up! see openstack-announce for today's crop of releases | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Add obj_tree_get_versions() utility method https://review.openstack.org/203746 | 17:57 |
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| dhellmann | harlowja, dims: I've started a list of things we want to look for in oslo lib documentation: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-oslo-docs-review | 18:09 |
| harlowja | kk, will check | 18:09 |
| dhellmann | yeah, please add to the list | 18:09 |
| harlowja | cools | 18:09 |
| harlowja | dhellmann do u know if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203225/ should have been working using the stevedore doc auto-magic mechanism? | 18:21 |
| dhellmann | when we feel like that list is complete, we can start reviewing the existing libs and building another audit matrix | 18:21 |
| harlowja | def | 18:21 |
| dhellmann | hmm, let me look at that | 18:22 |
| harlowja | cause i think it might be using that, but http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.messaging/executors.html seems empty | 18:22 |
| harlowja | but not sure, can just abandon that review if its supposed to be working (or something else is up) | 18:22 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: ah, no, the new directive isn't there. I can add that | 18:23 |
| harlowja | ah, k | 18:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: add plugin documentation for executors and notifiers https://review.openstack.org/203761 | 18:31 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: ^^ | 18:31 |
| harlowja | cool | 18:31 |
| harlowja | i'm gonna replicate that in taskflow, let's see how it goes :) | 18:31 |
| ekarlso | dhellmann: hey, has it been attempted to push avro / schema registry for the notification stuff ? | 18:35 |
| ekarlso | https://github.com/confluentinc/schema-registry | 18:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/stevedore: Titlecase looks nicer sometimes in detailed mode https://review.openstack.org/203763 | 18:43 |
| harlowja | dhellmann ^ if u get some time, think i did that right, ha | 18:43 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: oh, the idea is to document the actual name the deployer should put in the config file to get that plugin | 18:48 |
| harlowja | hmmmm | 18:49 |
| dhellmann | ekarlso: jd__ was doing some work at one point to use schemas for notifications, but I think he started focusing more on gnocchi | 18:49 |
| jd__ | yeah the subject is still on the table 2 years after my initial work lol | 18:50 |
| jd__ | we're still having sessions about that for Ceilometer | 18:50 |
| harlowja | thats like 10 cat years | 18:50 |
| jd__ | mew | 18:51 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:51 |
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| harlowja | personally i'd like some kind of zookeeper connected service registry (that can also host/reference the schemas that each service supports?); so when a new service comes online, other services can get notified that has happened, those other services can then determine what schemas that service accepts and know how to interpret notifications/other the service sends, but i may be dreaming, ha | 18:54 |
| harlowja | ^ is highly likely i am dreaming, lol | 18:54 |
| harlowja | ^ is not skynet, ha | 18:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: WIP: Implement multi-version object backport method https://review.openstack.org/203773 | 19:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/tooz: Use a lua script(s) instead of transactions https://review.openstack.org/180800 | 19:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/tooz: Use a lua script(s) instead of transactions https://review.openstack.org/180800 | 19:30 |
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| ekarlso | harlowja: why not just use the confluence stuff rly ? | 19:44 |
| harlowja | ekarlso looks like its the schema registry, so ya, still probably useful as a piece of the puzzle | 19:45 |
| harlowja | getting people to agree to avro, hmmm, good luck | 19:46 |
| ekarlso | harlowja: .... | 19:47 |
| harlowja | :) | 19:47 |
| ekarlso | oh yes I forgot, openstack likes to reinvent stuff that many people use for the usecase | 19:48 |
| * harlowja thought that avro came out of yahoo, so i'm cool using it :-P | 19:48 | |
| * harlowja might be wrong though, ha | 19:49 | |
| ekarlso | harlowja: I thought it was LI ? | 19:50 |
| harlowja | hmmm, maybe u right, getting old and losing my memory, lol | 19:50 |
| harlowja | https://avro.apache.org/docs/current/spec.html#Schema+Resolution is probably similar to what oslo versionedobjects does to | 19:52 |
| ekarlso | harlowja: but does o.objects have schemas ? :p | 19:53 |
| harlowja | ekarlso python code == the schema? | 19:53 |
| ekarlso | harlowja: and then circling back to recent chatter, what if I dont wanna run python ? :p | 19:54 |
| harlowja | u got bigger problems | 19:54 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:54 |
| ekarlso | harlowja: like ? | 19:54 |
| harlowja | hard to run openstack without it | 19:55 |
| harlowja | but i guess u are talking about clients | 19:55 |
| harlowja | ? | 19:55 |
| ekarlso | harlowja: any services that are consuming notifications.. | 19:55 |
| ekarlso | be it a openstack project or what not | 19:56 |
| ekarlso | something that consumes a notification | 19:56 |
| harlowja | k | 19:56 |
| harlowja | ya, i get u, avro or something similar would be nice there | 19:57 |
| ekarlso | harlowja: yeah.. | 19:57 |
| ekarlso | with more and more services too in openstack coming online to use notifications it wpould be nice | 19:57 |
| harlowja | ya, start a ML discussion? (or maybe one already existed?) | 19:58 |
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| dims_ | dhellmann: oslo.middleware needs a namespace wipeout? | 20:10 |
| dhellmann | dims_: we can't do that this cycle | 20:11 |
| dims_ | dhellmann: ok | 20:11 |
| dhellmann | we have configuration files (paste.ini) that refer to those names, and we can't break those until next cycle | 20:11 |
| dhellmann | I'm inclined to just leave that alone, because it isn't really clear how we can push out the updates and it's just the one little library | 20:12 |
| dims_ | dhellmann: ++ | 20:12 |
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| dims_ | dhellmann: dropped an email to dev just in case people start knocking on our door for capping lib versions :) | 20:32 |
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| dhellmann | dims: thanks for finding that nova issue, I thought it was too quiet today :-) | 21:36 |
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| harlowja | to much stuff is working, somethings wrong, lol | 21:41 |
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| harlowja | dhellmann u have any time to recheck +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201709/ (merge failures) | 21:47 |
| harlowja | *and subsequent rebases | 21:47 |
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