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| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, hey | 09:10 |
| ihrachyshka | does anyone know what's the end result of 'project vs. tenant' discussion? which term is blessed and which one is cursed? | 09:10 |
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| toabctl | the oslo.db tarball from http://tarballs.openstack.org/oslo.db/ has version 1.7.0.post1 . but the stable branch for kilo on git is already on 1.7.1 . | 10:02 |
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| toabctl | who's creating this tarballs? | 10:03 |
| toabctl | dhellmann: ^^ ? | 10:03 |
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| toabctl | hm. same is true for cliff. stable-kilo tarball is outdated | 10:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/oslo.policy: Expose base check classes as part of public API https://review.openstack.org/176683 | 13:28 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: I'm not sure which term we're using now :-/ | 13:34 |
| ihrachyshka | sigh if even you don't know | 13:34 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, I ask because I need to decide how to call a new context object attribute - tenant_name or project_name | 13:35 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: maybe the keystone team knows? | 13:35 |
| ihrachyshka | that's for https://review.openstack.org/176333 | 13:35 |
| ihrachyshka | the bad thing is also that we already have 'tenant' there for id | 13:36 |
| dhellmann | toabctl: which tarball has the post1 version? | 13:36 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: I tend to hear tenant more often these days, fwiw | 13:36 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, yeah, but then I'm told that project is *the* term in one of neutron specs | 13:37 |
| toabctl | dhellmann: http://tarballs.openstack.org/cliff/cliff-stable-kilo.tar.gz | 13:37 |
| ihrachyshka | even though everyone in neutron community uses tenants | 13:37 |
| toabctl | dhellmann: same for http://tarballs.openstack.org/oslo.db/oslo.db-stable-kilo.tar.gz | 13:40 |
| toabctl | dhellmann: btw. are the requirements.txt/test-requirements.txt supposted to change in a stable branch? | 13:41 |
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| dhellmann | toabctl: I would have to ask someone in -infra, but I think those tarballs are only created when a patch lands in an untagged version. We haven't landed anything in stable since we tagged releases for those libs, afaik | 13:47 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, they say it's now project | 13:47 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: sigh | 13:47 |
| ihrachyshka | :) | 13:47 |
| ihrachyshka | enforcing culture is hard (or better, not working) | 13:47 |
| dhellmann | toabctl: there may be some requirements updates this week as we finalize the release, but it shouldn't be a lot | 13:48 |
| ihrachyshka | now, should we deprecate .tenant for the context object? :D | 13:48 |
| dhellmann | toabctl: tweaking caps to make things work | 13:48 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: no, let's be consistent within that class | 13:48 |
| ihrachyshka | using tenant_name? | 13:48 |
| toabctl | dhellmann: so what should a distribution track? the stable-kilo tarballs? or i.e. for oslo.db the tags < 1.9 ? | 13:49 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: yeah, if we already have attributes that use "tenant" let's stick with that | 13:49 |
| ihrachyshka | ack | 13:49 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: it's better to be consistent at the class level if we're not consistent across all projects | 13:49 |
| dhellmann | toabctl: we will always tag releases of what is ready to be packaged, because that's how we test in our own CI system, so you should track the tagged tarballs | 13:50 |
| toabctl | dhellmann: and are the requirements stable in let's say the 1.8 series? | 13:50 |
| dhellmann | toabctl: they should be very stable, over the long term. For the next couple of days there may be small changes. | 13:51 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, heh, but then we have project_domain already :D | 13:52 |
| toabctl | dhellmann: ok. but what are the stable branches then good for? | 13:52 |
| toabctl | seems to me useless if I should follow the tagged versions. | 13:52 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: double sigh | 13:53 |
| ihrachyshka | :D | 13:54 |
| dhellmann | toabctl: I'm in the middle of trying to finish the release today, can we have the philosophical discussion in a day or two? :-) | 13:54 |
| ihrachyshka | then maybe sticking to the new term is better | 13:54 |
| ihrachyshka | we are inconsistent anyway, but at least we won't need to deprecate it eventually | 13:54 |
| toabctl | dhellmann: it's not philosophical - but of course. sorry for interrupting :) | 13:54 |
| dhellmann | toabctl: np, I will help you work this out -- maybe you want to talk to zigo or zul about what they do? | 13:55 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: that makes some sense | 13:55 |
| zigo | toabctl: How may I help? | 13:56 |
| toabctl | zigo: hey. I'm just wondering what tarballs should be used for the kilo release. there are the tagged ones from i.e. http://tarballs.openstack.org/oslo.db/ but also the oslo.db-stable-kilo.tar.gz . | 13:57 |
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| toabctl | zigo: and there is of course oslo.db | 13:57 |
| dhellmann | zigo: do you track tagged releases of libs or do you track the generic "stable" tarballs? | 13:58 |
| zigo | toabctl: I just use the latest Git tags, matching what's in the global-requirements.txt for Kilo. | 13:58 |
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| dhellmann | so tagged releases | 13:58 |
| zigo | dhellmann: I don't use tarballs published by you, I used tags ... | 13:58 |
| zigo | Git and git tags. | 13:58 |
| toabctl | zigo: ok. and compared with global-requirements | 13:58 |
| dhellmann | that's good -- the generic files represent HEAD and are unreleased | 13:58 |
| zigo | toabctl: yeah ! | 13:58 |
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| zigo | dhellmann: I just spent last week-end upgrading to the very latest of everything, respecting the upper cap in global-requirements.txt for Kilo. | 13:59 |
| zigo | I'm now trying to pass all Tempest functional tests I can. | 13:59 |
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| zigo | It's not looking brilliant yet, but I'm making some progress. | 14:00 |
| zigo | toabctl: Would you have time to help with that? :) | 14:00 |
| toabctl | zigo: I'm working for SUSE now, so no :-) | 14:00 |
| zigo | toabctl: Oh, you've switched to the dark side of the force! :) | 14:01 |
| zigo | toabctl: Will I see you in Vancouver? | 14:01 |
| toabctl | zigo: :) | 14:01 |
| toabctl | zigo: yes | 14:01 |
| zigo | Cool ! :) | 14:01 |
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| zigo | toabctl: Make sure to ping me on IRC so we can meet-up ! | 14:01 |
| toabctl | zigo: ok. sounds good! | 14:02 |
| zigo | It's otherwise crazy, and often, I didn't see everyone I wanted at a summit. | 14:02 |
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| davidlenwell | hello all.. I've been working on getting ironic up on a debian system and am running into an error within stevedore.. http://paste.openstack.org/show/205259/ AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'adapters' | 14:05 |
| davidlenwell | searching led me to this.. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27513101/python-attributeerror-module-object-has-no-attribute-interfaces | 14:06 |
| dhellmann | davidlenwell: if you change /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/stevedore/driver.py line 50 to read just "raise" does it tell you where the error is actually coming from? I think you might be using an old stevedore... | 14:10 |
| davidlenwell | I'll check | 14:10 |
| dhellmann | oh, no, that's what we have in latest, too, so it's not old | 14:11 |
| dhellmann | it still might give you a better traceback | 14:11 |
| davidlenwell | trying it now | 14:11 |
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| davidlenwell | dhellmann: http://paste.openstack.org/show/205286/ | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | davidlenwell: ok, it looks like maybe an issue with the import of the requests package | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | can you import the driver module directly? | 14:14 |
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| davidlenwell | requests imports but it borks when you ask for adaptors | 14:16 |
| davidlenwell | from requests import adapters | 14:16 |
| davidlenwell | ImportError: cannot import name adapters | 14:16 |
| davidlenwell | so that makes a little more sense | 14:16 |
| dhellmann | yep, I'll put together a stevedore patch to report that error better | 14:17 |
| davidlenwell | cool .. | 14:17 |
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| sileht | jd__, can you take a look to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174929/ | 14:25 |
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| elarson | I noticed when creating a .tar.gz with setup.py sdist, pbr (I'm assuming) adds an extra field in the filename. ie designate-2015.2.dev9.tar.gz. just curious where that comes from? | 14:38 |
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| dhellmann | elarson: "dev9" means 9 patches after the tag | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Add bandit to tox for security static analysis https://review.openstack.org/156838 | 14:45 |
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| elarson | dhellmann: ah ok, great. is there a way to skip that when creating the sdist? | 14:48 |
| elarson | obviously cp will work just fine as well in a pinch ;) | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | elarson: you can set an environment variable to tell pbr what the version is, but I can't remember the name off the top of my head | 14:49 |
| elarson | dhellmann: I'll go read a bit then. thanks for sending me in the right direction! | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | elarson: otoh, you probably don't want to be making up your own version numbers or mislabeling things | 14:50 |
| elarson | dhellmann: totally agree | 14:50 |
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| dhellmann | sileht: so is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174929/3 ready for approval? | 14:54 |
| sileht | dhellmann, yes | 14:54 |
| dhellmann | sileht: is there a kilo backport already? | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | +2a on the master patch | 14:55 |
| sileht | dhellmann, no, I'm waiting this to be merged, to have a clean backport | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | sileht: ok, that makes sense | 14:55 |
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| sileht | otherwise I guess 'cherry-pick -x' pick a wrong id | 14:56 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: is it just me or does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167308/ seem pretty heavy for a change between oslo.messaging 1.8.0 and 1.8.1? that seems like a feature for a 1.9.0 | 14:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/stevedore: re-raise exception with full traceback https://review.openstack.org/176793 | 14:59 |
| dhellmann | davidlenwell: ^^ | 14:59 |
| davidlenwell | awesome.. thanks dhellmann that was fast! | 14:59 |
| davidlenwell | so it ends up my system had two versions of requests installed and python was using the older one for some reason .. removed both .. reinstalled it with pip and stevedore worked great | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | mriedem: that's all being turned off by default now | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | davidlenwell: great! | 15:00 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: i was going to say, in our internal ci neutron logs are hammered with this | 15:00 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: which is actually filling up the disk on the test vm's and kill us | 15:00 |
| mriedem | :( | 15:01 |
| toabctl | zigo: I guess for the services (i.e. nova, glance, ...) you follow the stable branches, right? | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | mriedem: yeah, we have a couple of bugs and sileht is pushing through a patch to turn it off by default | 15:01 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: link? | 15:01 |
| zigo | toabctl: Yup. | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174929/ | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | bugs are referenced from the commit message | 15:01 |
| toabctl | zigo: thx | 15:01 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: awesome, i'll patch our 1.8.1 package with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174929/ to fix it | 15:02 |
| mriedem | thanks! | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | mriedem: if you give us a little while, we'll have a 1.8.2 (or whatever is next) with the patch | 15:02 |
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| dhellmann | mriedem: also watch for sileht's backport patch in case he has to make edits to get it to work | 15:03 |
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| mriedem | dhellmann: i'll just be backporting locally to 1.8.1 anyway | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | ok | 15:03 |
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| mriedem | our legal runway for packages ends today so i can't really wait for 1.8.2 :) | 15:03 |
| mriedem | damn lawyers | 15:04 |
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| dhellmann | mriedem: "legal runway"? | 15:09 |
| mriedem | for our product, we have a period of time between our final release builds and when we can still pick up new dependent packages and have time to clear them through legal | 15:14 |
| mriedem | after today, we can't pick up new versions of deps | 15:14 |
| mriedem | until after we release our kilo | 15:14 |
| mriedem | once the white puff of smoke comes out of the lawyer's office then we're good to go | 15:15 |
| mriedem | :) | 15:15 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: btw, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174929/ was a clean backport to the 1.8.1 tag but unit tests fail, so yeah i guess i'll have to wait for sileht's backport patch to stable/kilo | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | mriedem: sigh on the lawyer approval of bug fix releases; sileht, if you ping me when you have that backport ready I can approve it and we can tell mriedem about it | 15:21 |
| sileht | 16 minutes remaining before I can push the backport (according zuul) | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | sileht: :-) | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | sileht: did you see mriedem's comment about unit tests failing when he backported? | 15:24 |
| mriedem | http://paste.openstack.org/show/205320/ | 15:24 |
| sileht | I have run them locally I don't have issue | 15:24 |
| mriedem | fwiw that was a cherry pick to the 1.8.1 tag, not stable/kilo | 15:24 |
| sileht | mriedem, 1.8.2 will have some zmq fixes | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/176820 | 15:27 |
| mriedem | heh, i ran them again and this time they passed | 15:28 |
| mriedem | so they are race failures | 15:28 |
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| krotscheck | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176036/ merged | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | mriedem: whee! | 15:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: Disable and mark heartbeat as experimental https://review.openstack.org/174929 | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/stevedore: fix author contact details https://review.openstack.org/176867 | 15:50 |
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| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, where do deprecation functions go? | 16:41 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: the big bit bucket in the sky? :-) do you mean "I want to add a new function that is deprecated, where should I put it?" or something else? | 16:43 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, nah, I saw the patch ^^ that apparently moves is_compatible() into oslo.utils and kills other functions from versionutils module | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: ah, sorry, I didn't make the connection :-) | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | some parts of versionutils went into oslo.utils and some parts are in oslo.log | 16:46 |
| ihrachyshka | aha, oslo.log, ok | 16:46 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: right, because those functions are "log helpers" | 16:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.vmware: Add bandit to tox for security static analysis https://review.openstack.org/156838 | 17:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Add + use diagram explaining retry controller area of influence https://review.openstack.org/176496 | 19:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/stevedore: fix author contact details https://review.openstack.org/176867 | 19:20 |
| harlowja | zzzeek yt | 19:20 |
| harlowja | how ameinable would u be to have https://bitbucket.org/zzzeek/dogpile.cache/src/229615be466d00c9c135a90d8965679ab3e4edaa/dogpile/cache/backends/memory.py?at=master#cl-20 depend on cachetools and use a lrucache there (which has a dict interface as well) | 19:21 |
| harlowja | *lrucache from cachetools https://pypi.python.org/pypi/cachetools | 19:21 |
| harlowja | i guess it could just pass a cache_dict | 19:23 |
| harlowja | hmmm | 19:23 |
| harlowja | but would still need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152953/ to even do that, lol | 19:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/tooz: Move optional driver requirements to test-requirements.txt https://review.openstack.org/176942 | 19:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Start adding skelton/pieces of redis jobboard (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/176951 | 19:37 |
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| zzzeek | harlowja: 1. what is cachetools 2. dogpile spuports pluggable backends, so just make a plugin: http://dogpilecache.readthedocs.org/en/latest/usage.html#creating-backends | 20:14 |
| harlowja | cachetools https://pypi.python.org/pypi/cachetools (has LRU cache, LFU cache, all with dict-style interfaces) | 20:14 |
| harlowja | zzzeek i was thinking that dogpile.cache in-memory one could just use cachetools by default | 20:14 |
| zzzeek | harlowja: the backends that are included in dogpile are supposed to be super basic / generic. as many fancy ones as people like can be created, released, etc. cachetools could even publish the dogpile backend within it. | 20:14 |
| harlowja | ya, would still need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152953/ vs not having it then :-P | 20:15 |
| harlowja | ^ which is not impossible, just was an idea | 20:15 |
| zzzeek | harlowja: then i have a dependency and my users have to learn whatever that thing is :) plus i hve to support it the memory backend is just a really simple no-brainer backend. | 20:15 |
| harlowja | fair enough :) | 20:15 |
| zzzeek | harlowja: at most, there’s be a cachetools backend in dogpile.cache. | 20:16 |
| zzzeek | then oyu wouldnt need that req | 20:16 |
| harlowja | sure, maybe that'd be acceptable | 20:16 |
| harlowja | maybe i add that then | 20:18 |
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| harlowja | thx zzzeek i'll get that happening soonish | 20:20 |
| zzzeek | harlowja: sure | 20:21 |
| zzzeek | harlowja: i dont do much with dogpile, waiting for the community to step up :) | 20:21 |
| harlowja | ah, yeolde wait ;) | 20:21 |
| harlowja | i know how that goes, ha | 20:21 |
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| bknudson | I noticed that the oslo.messaging config options aren't logged in the keystone log by service.py ... any idea? | 20:34 |
| bknudson | could it be something with when the config options are loaded?? | 20:35 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: yeah, it could be that the options aren't initialized at the point where that logging happens | 20:35 |
| dhellmann | that is, if the logging relies on having the options registered they might not be yet | 20:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-specs: Add general policy on test tooling https://review.openstack.org/158787 | 21:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-specs: Add feature freeze policy https://review.openstack.org/153642 | 21:06 |
| mtreinish | bnemec: qq if you set your lock_path to a dir which doesn't yet exist will oslo_concurrency create the dir? | 21:14 |
| bnemec | mtreinish: I believe so. Let me check though. | 21:15 |
| mtreinish | ok that's the behavior I'm seeing, but I just wanted to make sure I didn't make a stupid mistake in my test | 21:15 |
| bnemec | mtreinish: Yeah, that's expected: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.concurrency/blob/master/oslo_concurrency/lockutils.py#L193 | 21:15 |
| mtreinish | bnemec: ok cool, thanks | 21:16 |
| bnemec | np | 21:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Be safe, don't let friends use RawConfigParser https://review.openstack.org/176997 | 21:44 |
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