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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tooz: Fix param name to be its right name https://review.openstack.org/175159 | 08:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr: Reinstate pure-git-hashes-are-illegal test. https://review.openstack.org/174625 | 08:40 |
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| haypo | jd__, morning. i have 2 other python3 fixes in oslo.concurrency: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146984/ & https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171710/ | 09:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Stop re-invoking pip https://review.openstack.org/175369 | 12:15 |
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| haypo | jd__, you rules, thanks for oslo.concurrency ;) | 12:28 |
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| haypo | SpamapS, sileht: hi! could you take a look of my patch to port Oslo Messaging ZMQ driver to Python3? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174391/ | 12:29 |
| haypo | except of AMQP/qpid, it looks like most executors & drivers will work on python 3! | 12:30 |
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| haypo | sileht, hum, nova has this strange code which doesn't work on python3: http://pastealacon.com/37328 | 12:58 |
| haypo | it's in class ExceptionHelper(object): "Class to wrap another and translate the ClientExceptions raised by its function calls to the actual ones." | 12:58 |
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| haypo | e.exc_info[1] is the exception instance, why does it pass an exception instance as the exception *type*? | 12:58 |
| haypo | oh ExpectedException of oslo_messaging.rpc.dispatcher stores sys.exc_info() in its exc_info attribute (ExpectedException.exc_info) | 13:01 |
| haypo | fix: six.reraise(*e.exc_info) | 13:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Khivin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Reply queues are accidentally not found https://review.openstack.org/175441 | 15:07 |
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| krotscheck | dhellmann: Hey, is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173924/ ready for a recheck? | 15:22 |
| krotscheck | I see that most of the relevant uncap patches have landed, so I suspect it might. | 15:22 |
| * krotscheck doesn't quite understand all the nuances yet though | 15:22 | |
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| sdague | krotscheck: we need new library releases | 15:44 |
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| krotscheck | sdague: Got it. | 15:44 |
| sdague | ttx is working on shepherding that | 15:44 |
| krotscheck | Coolio, I'll keep my eyes peeled | 15:45 |
| sdague | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/the-big-thaw | 15:45 |
| sdague | that's where this unwind is all being coordinated | 15:45 |
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| SpamapS | doh, just missed haypo to say yes. :-P | 16:12 |
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| sileht | sdague, ttx, any news for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174930/ ? | 16:37 |
| sdague | sileht: yeh, I think that's a go, let me +2. ttx and I had a chat in the #openstack-relmgr-office this morning about it | 16:40 |
| sdague | I'll leave him for the approve | 16:40 |
| harlowja_at_home | bbl, heading in to work, damn that meeting was super exciting | 16:41 |
| sileht | sdague, ok thanks | 16:41 |
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| browne | sdague: can you please unblock https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167126/ | 16:47 |
| sdague | browne: no, requirements are not unfrozen yet | 16:47 |
| browne | sdague: oh, ok, i thought everything was unfrozen. my bad | 16:48 |
| sdague | no, there is a lot of unwind here | 16:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Add bandit to tox for security static analysis https://review.openstack.org/156838 | 18:37 |
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| haypo | Jenkins doesn't want to merge my oslo.concurrency change which was approved? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146984/ | 19:32 |
| harlowja | mr.jenkins must be in a bad mood | 19:39 |
| harlowja | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/scoobydoo/images/2/24/Jenkins.png | 19:40 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:40 |
| haypo | harlowja, hey. did you try my eventlet fix? | 19:44 |
| harlowja | haypo haven't yet, was just about to | 19:44 |
| haypo | i don't like that, somehow i became an eventlet expert | 19:44 |
| harlowja | it still feels like there is some other underlying problem/issue | 19:44 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:44 |
| harlowja | howdy eventlet expert ;) | 19:45 |
| harlowja | mr.eventlet victor stiner | 19:45 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:45 |
| haypo | harlowja, eventlet/patcher.py is just a pile of junk, it doesn't matter to add another ugly if | 19:45 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:45 |
| harlowja | broken windows syndrome :-P | 19:45 |
| harlowja | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory (for those who have no idea wtf i am taslking about) | 19:46 |
| haypo | to fix the windows, you must remove eventlet at all | 19:46 |
| haypo | window* | 19:46 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:46 |
| harlowja | no disagreement from me :-P | 19:46 |
| haypo | harlowja, do you know http://www.onebigfluke.com/2015/02/asyncio-is-for-composition.html? | 19:47 |
| haypo | harlowja, IMO it explains better than me what asyncio is good for | 19:47 |
| harlowja | hmmm, haven't seen that one | 19:47 |
| harlowja | i think we all sorta agree where it can be used. I just always go back to the question along the line of 'meh' does this make python better | 19:48 |
| haypo | to exagerate, asyncio sucks on performances, but it's wrong to run microbenchmarks on asyncio, asyncio is a very good glue to connect different things like sockets, threads, processes, random libraries, etc. | 19:49 |
| haypo | as python is a wonderful language to put random pieces together | 19:49 |
| harlowja | sure, i see it as fine for that to (but then u can also just make threads, greenthreads) to do the same :-P | 19:50 |
| harlowja | for example, imagine a world where python could run with greenthreads or native threads; transparently (?) | 19:51 |
| harlowja | then u don't have to refactor all the things to make this work right? | 19:51 |
| harlowja | and i just start to get weary of more python 'refactor all the things' stuff | 19:51 |
| harlowja | ^ because that has obviously not really worked out to well | 19:51 |
| harlowja | anyways | 19:52 |
| haypo | harlowja, FYI python 3.5 will probably have new async & await keywords to make asyncio make natural ;) | 19:57 |
| haypo | https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0492/ | 19:57 |
| harlowja | ya, i saw some proposal for tha | 19:57 |
| harlowja | *for that | 19:57 |
| harlowja | ya, that will help i think | 19:57 |
| harlowja | the more higher level things that are provided imho the better | 19:57 |
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| harlowja | u just need to have a proposal for running coroutines remotely (transparently) and u'll be all set (and similar to taskflow), lol | 19:59 |
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| harlowja | and then support jumping back to a certain execution state (without running all the coroutines again) | 19:59 |
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| harlowja | but that probably requires things that unladden swallow added | 20:02 |
| harlowja | *to make it work correctly/at all | 20:02 |
| * harlowja or i thought they had that idea/concept | 20:02 | |
| haypo | harlowja, the loop.run_in_executor(executor, func, arg1, arg2, ...) allows to run func(arg1, arg2, ...) anywhere (in threads or processes by default) | 20:04 |
| harlowja | how's that working out for process based executors | 20:04 |
| harlowja | man those things are somewhat flakey, lol | 20:04 |
| haypo | you write write your own executor to use an RPC protocol or whatever | 20:05 |
| harlowja | ya, i've done that | 20:05 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/openstack/taskflow/blob/master/taskflow/engines/worker_based/executor.py#L37 is basically that | 20:05 |
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| harlowja | with execute_task being similar to submit | 20:06 |
| harlowja | *similar to executor submit() that is | 20:07 |
| harlowja | execute_task creates a pr.Request which has a future in it that another part of taskflow waits on | 20:07 |
| harlowja | *therefore making it just another future | 20:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Add a conductor running example https://review.openstack.org/129412 | 20:10 |
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| harlowja | haypo http://paste.ubuntu.com/10858129/ another variation of that issue (maybe?) | 20:17 |
| harlowja | this is just by adding eventlet.monkey_patch(thread=True) to that example, lol | 20:18 |
| harlowja | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10858132/ | 20:18 |
| harlowja | niceeee | 20:18 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:18 |
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| harlowja | i know i know, threads shouldn't touch eventlet, lol | 20:19 |
| harlowja | overall though, your little patch seems to fix it | 20:20 |
| harlowja | can't seem to cause any weirdness (besides trying to monkey patch threading in a thread, lol) | 20:20 |
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| haypo | harlowja, maybe i misunderstood how eventlet monkey patches modules, i'm no more sure that my patch is correct | 20:23 |
| harlowja | ok, u the eventlet expert | 20:24 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:24 |
| haypo | harlowja, it looks like eventlet doesn't support the case when eventlet.patcher.original() or eventlet.monkey_patch() is called from a thread | 20:24 |
| harlowja | ya, eventlet is awesome! | 20:24 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:24 |
| harlowja | super-awesome | 20:24 |
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| haypo | harlowja, http://pastealacon.com/37337 | 20:25 |
| harlowja | ya, woot | 20:25 |
| haypo | harlowja, no, it's just that threads are evil :-p | 20:25 |
| harlowja | nice try sneaky | 20:26 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:26 |
| harlowja | guido should of never included support for them in cpython imho | 20:26 |
| harlowja | that would of been nicer :-P | 20:26 |
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| harlowja | *something we agree upon!! :) | 20:28 |
| haypo | harlowja, i may retry to fix the eventlet issue tomorrow | 20:29 |
| harlowja | cool | 20:29 |
| haypo | it's too much eventlet for today | 20:29 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:29 |
| haypo | i commented the pull request | 20:29 |
| harlowja | don't take to much eventlet at once, u overdose | 20:29 |
| haypo | sure | 20:30 |
| haypo | harlowja, now imagine eventlet+threads... | 20:31 |
| harlowja | def overdose, lol | 20:31 |
| haypo | (you can also try eventlet+threads+asyncio if you are hardcore) | 20:31 |
| harlowja | i don't wanna die man | 20:31 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:31 |
| harlowja | those who try eventlet+threads+asyncio never come back, lol | 20:31 |
| harlowja | we calll those folks haypo | 20:34 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:34 |
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| EmilienM | hello, I have a question, maybe not for oslo.db. I see db_sync using 'utf8_general_ci' for MySQL collate - so if you use 'utf8_unicode_ci', db_sync will change it in the DB | 20:42 |
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| sputnik13 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152357/ | 21:33 |
| sputnik13 | can a core (or two) please review ^ | 21:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Allow for decommissioning a board via a .tombstone file https://review.openstack.org/92289 | 21:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Avoid attribute error by checking executor for being non-none https://review.openstack.org/175585 | 21:50 |
| haypo | sputnik13, i don't know this API. do you know inspect.signature()? oslo.utils should slowly move to this API | 21:50 |
| haypo | sputnik13, https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0362/ -- there is https://pypi.python.org/pypi/funcsigs | 21:52 |
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| haypo | sputnik13, Signature API is more flexible. for example, get_callable_args() doesn't look to support "keyword-only parameters" | 21:54 |
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| harlowja | hmmm, intersting, didn't know about that one | 21:54 |
| haypo | sputnik13, get_callable_args() uses inspect.getargspec() which is deprecated since python 3.0 :-( | 21:54 |
| harlowja | seems like we should bring in funcsigs | 21:54 |
| haypo | funcsigs includes its own copy of odict, ugly packaging! | 21:58 |
| harlowja | ya, whats up with that | 21:58 |
| haypo | harlowja, funcsigs has a nice license, and it has no dependency | 21:58 |
| harlowja | ya, perhaps it should have a dependency on ordered_dict at least :-P | 21:59 |
| haypo | harlowja, such packaging issue can be fixed later ;) | 22:00 |
| harlowja | sure | 22:00 |
| haypo | i also used copies of six.py in some of my toy projects :) | 22:00 |
| haypo | (a few years ago, six was well known, maybe not even packaging in linux distro) | 22:00 |
| harlowja | i'm telling on u, lol | 22:01 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/aliles/funcsigs/pull/13 there | 22:03 |
| harlowja | fixed | 22:03 |
| haypo | i hesitate to use my superpower -2, but it's rude, i don't like using it | 22:05 |
| haypo | i also understand that sometimes we need to move fast to unblock something | 22:06 |
| haypo | harlowja, good night | 22:07 |
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| harlowja | night | 22:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Enable eventlet dependency on Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/172135 | 22:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Replace more instance(s) of exception chaining with helper https://review.openstack.org/175593 | 22:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.concurrency: Port processutils to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/146984 | 23:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use states.check_task_transition in task action https://review.openstack.org/175611 | 23:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use states.check_task_transition in task action https://review.openstack.org/175611 | 23:32 |
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