Tuesday, 2015-03-10

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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.config: print better message when choices has an empty string  https://review.openstack.org/16276000:35
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/tooz: Add a driver feature compatibility matrix  https://review.openstack.org/16274201:34
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Retain nested causes where/when we can  https://review.openstack.org/16283802:10
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Retain nested causes where/when we can  https://review.openstack.org/16283802:23
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Retain nested causes where/when we can  https://review.openstack.org/16283802:32
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Retain nested causes where/when we can  https://review.openstack.org/16283802:34
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Retain nested causes where/when we can  https://review.openstack.org/16283802:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/taskflow: Remove support for 3.3  https://review.openstack.org/16270802:39
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openstackgerritAngus Lees proposed openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Avoid calling sudo just to change users  https://review.openstack.org/16284902:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.config: None in config choices breaks oslo-config-generator  https://review.openstack.org/16272802:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.config: print better message when choices has an empty string  https://review.openstack.org/16276002:56
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Retain nested causes where/when we can  https://review.openstack.org/16283803:53
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openstackgerritstanzgy proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Fixed ssl.PROTOCOL_SSLv3 not supported by Python 2.7.9  https://review.openstack.org/16285304:00
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Retain nested causes where/when we can  https://review.openstack.org/16283804:00
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openstackgerritAndrew Spiers proposed openstack/cliff: Update links to setuptools doc.  https://review.openstack.org/16286805:37
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Retain nested causes where/when we can  https://review.openstack.org/16283805:59
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/16253606:05
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/16064906:15
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/oslo.db: Fix documented env variable for test connection  https://review.openstack.org/16288206:38
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openstackgerritstanzgy proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Fix Guru Meditation Reports broken with lastest psutil  https://review.openstack.org/16294510:32
openstackgerritstanzgy proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Fix Guru Meditation Reports broken with lastest psutil  https://review.openstack.org/16294510:34
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openstackgerritOleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/oslo.db: Handle DBReferenceError for pypy  https://review.openstack.org/13764411:11
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openstackgerritThomas Bechtold proposed openstack/oslo.concurrency: Move fixtures to test-requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/16297211:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo-incubator: Fixed ssl.PROTOCOL_SSLv3 not supported by Python 2.7.9  https://review.openstack.org/16285312:02
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geguileodhellmann: ping12:34
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dimsgeguileo: haven't seen dhellmann yet12:55
geguileodims: Thanks, I'll try it later this afternoon12:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.db: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/16235312:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.db: Fix documented env variable for test connection  https://review.openstack.org/16288212:56
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dhellmanngeguileo, dims : good morning13:32
dimshi dhellmann: tempest is now unclogged13:32
dhellmanndims: wonderful, than you!13:32
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.log: Add migration notes  https://review.openstack.org/14731213:56
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geguileodhellmann: Good morning, I was away from keyboard earlier14:05
geguileodhellmann: I'm new, so I'm sorry if this is out of place14:06
dhellmanngeguileo: no problem, and welcome - what's up?14:06
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geguileodhellmann: You +2 a patch on mine on requirements but you didn't set Workflow to +114:06
geguileoUp till now in all my patches reviewer set +2 and +1 to workflow14:07
geguileoIs there a reason for not setting +1 on workflow in some cases?14:07
dhellmanngeguileo: are there 2 +2 votes?14:07
dhellmannwhich patch?14:07
geguileodhellmann: No, only 1 +214:07
geguileoSo I see, there needs to be 2  XD14:07
dhellmannah, ok, we usually require 2 reviewers to vote +2 and the second will then usually also set workflow+114:08
geguileoOk, thanks for the info  :)14:08
geguileoI didn't know that14:08
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dhellmanngeguileo: I think this is written up somewhere in our wiki, give me a minute to find that link14:09
geguileoIt was patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161291/14:09
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geguileodhellmann: Don't worry, I will search it myself :)14:09
dhellmanngeguileo: I'm having a hard time finding it :-/14:11
geguileodhellmann: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html at Code Review section14:12
geguileoIt's clearly stated there that two +2 are needed  :)14:12
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geguileoThanks14:14
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.log: Restore automatic unicode conversion  https://review.openstack.org/16302714:41
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dimsdhellmann: sileht: there's some really good discussion over at the Ops summit etherpad for rabbitmq - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PHL-ops-rabbit-queue14:46
dimsozamiatin: ^^^14:46
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dhellmanndims: thanks for the pointer14:54
dhellmanngeguileo: oh, that moved, it used to be in the wiki somewhere - thanks!14:55
dimsdhellmann: they piled on the rabbitmq heartbeat and i requested someone to help test the changeset :)14:55
geguileodhellmann: No problem, and thank you for the clarification :)14:56
dhellmanndims: it looks like that's going to be an early liberty feature at this point14:56
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ihrachyshkaviktors, hey. when are we expected to start looking into py3 for neutron? (I mean, when do we expect to have all libraries ready for that.)15:01
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viktorsihrachyshka: hi! I'm not really familiar with neutron dependencies. Do you mean something special?15:02
ihrachyshkaviktors, well, I would say I'm more concerned about oslo libraries + eventlet since those are the major pieces that are consumed everywherre15:03
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viktorsihrachyshka: as for eventlet - py3 support was announced in the last release - 0.17.1, but afaik, there are some bugs with py315:06
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ihrachyshkaviktors, should we consider starting the switch in L? or it's too optimistic?15:06
* viktors looking for requirements15:07
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viktorsihrachyshka: IMO - it's rather too optimistic.15:11
viktorsihrachyshka: what neutron team tells about this idea?15:11
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ihrachyshkaviktors, well, it's not like we should switch everything. we can start with some small agents and see where it leads. of course it will be both stack aware, if py3 is even supported.15:15
ihrachyshkaviktors, some of us would like to look into it (+ into dropping eventlet for some agents) in L. so for now collecting preliminary info whether it's realistic.15:16
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viktorsihrachyshka: well, this sounds good15:25
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Update tests for optional sslv3  https://review.openstack.org/13691215:48
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Update to oslo.context  https://review.openstack.org/15977816:07
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Deprecates the localcontext API  https://review.openstack.org/14061616:07
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove obsolete cross tests script  https://review.openstack.org/16306616:07
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dhellmanndimsum__: did someone start an etherpad of must-fix bugs yesterday after the meeting?16:24
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dhellmanndimsum__: I created https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-kilo-final-bug-list16:43
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dimsum__dhellmann: apologies and thanks!16:48
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dimsum__bnemec: or any other cores around? here's a quick one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159646/ (already has dhellmann's +2)17:05
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bnemecdimsum__: +2a17:08
dimsum__thanks!17:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo-incubator: Expose opts entry point for version_utils  https://review.openstack.org/15964617:13
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mriedemdhellmann: sdague: is there anything official around when clients do their last release before kilo release? like sometime around dep freeze?17:40
dhellmannmriedem, sdague: it's not official yet, but I would like for them to follow my proposed plan for the other libs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155072/17:42
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openstackgerritDan Krause proposed openstack/taskflow: added update_flow_metadata method to Storage class  https://review.openstack.org/16310917:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/taskflow: Persistence backend refactor  https://review.openstack.org/16088918:10
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Retain nested causes where/when we can  https://review.openstack.org/16283818:11
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openstackgerritDan Krause proposed openstack/taskflow: added update_flow_metadata method to Storage class  https://review.openstack.org/16310918:16
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openstackgerritDan Krause proposed openstack/taskflow: Added EventTimeListner to record when events occur  https://review.openstack.org/16312518:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.vmware: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/16253619:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo-incubator: Update tests for optional sslv3  https://review.openstack.org/13691219:12
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elarsonis there a simple list of oslo projects that are in incubation?19:17
dhellmannelarson: is this close to what you're looking for? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/tree/MAINTAINERS19:18
sigmavirus24dhellmann: if a project is orphaned does oslo-core just assume maintenance of it?19:21
dimssigmavirus24: we fill in and try to find someone who is interested19:23
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sigmavirus24Cool. I noticed a few things there that I think glance uses that are orphaned was wondering if we should plan to remove our reliance on them19:23
dimssigmavirus24: which ones?19:23
sigmavirus24At least eventlet_backdoor19:24
* sigmavirus24 looks at list again19:24
* elarson takes a look19:24
elarsondhellmann: thanks!19:24
sigmavirus24I think glanceclient uses apiclient still19:24
dimssigmavirus24: here's the last inventory - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals19:27
dimseventlet_backdoor will end up in oslo.service19:27
dimsyes apiclient will probably need to mode to the sdk stuff19:28
sigmavirus24thanks dim19:30
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Allow injected atom args to be persisted (WIP)  https://review.openstack.org/16315919:55
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jungleboyjdhellmann: Have a minute for a couple questions?20:01
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e0nejungleboyj: may be dims can help us too20:02
jungleboyje0ne: Had that thought as well.20:02
e0ne:)20:02
jungleboyje0ne: Was going to ping him next.20:03
e0newe want to ask what is the best way to deprecate openstack.common.middleware?20:03
jungleboyjWe wanted to move to using oslo.middleware in Kilo but that seems to have hit an impass due to this review:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161677/20:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove obsolete cross tests script  https://review.openstack.org/16306620:05
openstackgerritDan Krause proposed openstack/taskflow: Added EventTimeListner to record when events occur  https://review.openstack.org/16312520:06
dimsjungleboyj: looking20:07
jungleboyjdims: Thanks!20:07
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Allow injected atom args to be persisted (WIP)  https://review.openstack.org/16315920:10
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openstackgerritIan Cordasco proposed openstack/oslo.policy: Publicize oslo_policy.opts.register  https://review.openstack.org/16316320:13
dimsjungleboyj: did you how Nova did it?  I89ef3df1b8d3b2c6e391d04e89e35f2ee974a3cc20:14
jungleboyjdims: Looking.20:14
dimse0ne: ^^^20:14
jungleboyjdims: Oh, they left the oslo-incubator code there just for grenade huh?20:15
dimsy20:15
dimswith the decorator20:15
e0nedims: thanks20:16
jungleboyjdims: Indeed!20:16
jungleboyjThank you!20:16
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e0nejungleboyj: afair, you abadoned such changes20:16
jungleboyje0ne: :-)  Yes, hmmm, who was it that asked me to.  ;-)20:17
e0nejungleboyj: ok, i'll remove -1 :)20:18
jungleboyje0ne: I can put together a patch like the one Nova did.20:18
jungleboyje0ne: It is actually different than my original.20:19
e0nejungleboyj: it's up to you. to be honest, i don't remember details of your patch20:20
jungleboyje0ne: I need to go take my son to swimming and I will work up the patch while I am there.20:20
jungleboyjShouldn't take long.20:20
e0nejungleboyj: sure. i'll review your patch tonight or tomorrow20:21
jungleboyje0ne: Sounds good.  Thanks for bringing it back up.20:21
jungleboyje0ne: What would I do without you man?  ;-)20:21
e0nejungleboyj: Captian, i'm just a soldier;)20:22
* jungleboyj laughs20:22
dimsjungleboyj: swim team? :)20:23
jungleboyje0ne: Uh huh.  :-)20:23
jungleboyjdims: Yes, he is only 9 so not too competitive, but he loves it.  We have a great program here.20:24
jungleboyjdims: This is extra stuff between seasons, working on dives.20:24
dimsvery cool. my 9 and 11 yo are both on a team as well. likewise just fun :)20:25
jungleboyjdims: Cool!  He had his last meet of the year last week and got 1st place in all of his heats.  I was sooooo proud!20:25
dimsvery cool!20:25
dimswe wrapped up for the season too last weekend20:26
jungleboyjdims: Hope they had a good season.20:26
jungleboyjAnyway, gotta drop.  Back in a bit.20:28
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elarsondhellmann: is there a formal track for becoming a maintainer for an oslo package? I was looking at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/tree/openstack/common/memorycache.py specifically21:19
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dimselarson: that's going into oslo.cache being proposed - http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/specs/kilo/oslo-cache-using-dogpile.html21:26
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dimsthere was a couple of people who volunteered for oslo.cache, we could always have more!21:28
elarsondims: cool, I'll check out the spec21:29
dimselarson: there was a discussion in our weekly meeting, please review those notes as well http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-03-02-16.00.log.html21:30
dimsafter those if you still want to :) we hope you will, we have documented a process https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/CreatingANewLibrary21:31
dimskeystone etc are eager to use, so we will had adopters and those who can review api(s) etc21:32
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dhellmannjungleboyj: it sounds like dims solved your problem?21:35
dhellmannelarson: there was a recent ML thread about the cache stuff, too, because we have an intern signed up to work on it21:36
dhellmannelarson: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/058470.html21:38
* elarson will take a look21:40
elarsondhellmann: thanks!21:40
dhellmannelarson: np21:40
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* elarson didn't have any major ideas outside adding some locks for the fake client, but this is all pretty interesting :)21:40
dhellmannelarson: it would be great for you to contact shelly__ and pleia2 about collaborating21:43
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jungleboyjdhellmann: Yes.21:50
jungleboyjdhellmann: Thanks for checking.21:50
e0neNakato: hi. could i ask you about oslo.service?21:54
Nakatoe0ne: Sure21:54
e0neNakato: great. i'm looking on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals. i'm interested in something like oslo.wsgi module21:55
e0nee.g. keystone is moving to wsgi based on webob instead eventlet. i'm pretty sure that it will be needed for others projects21:56
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e0neNakato: unfortunately, i didn't find anything about oslo.service except that etherpad and current oslo-incubator22:00
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dhellmanne0ne: are you looking for https://review.openstack.org/142659 perhaps?22:02
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NakatoSo oslo.service, at this point, still resides in oslo-incubator.  It's services are in the process of migrating out.  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142659/22:03
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e0nedhellmann, Nakato: thanks for link.22:05
dimsdhellmann: can "psutil>=1.1.1,<2.0.0" match 2.0.0?22:05
dhellmanndims: no, not with <2.0.022:06
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dhellmanndims: context?22:06
dimshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+bug/143023122:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1430231 in oslo-incubator "Guru Meditation Reports broken with psutil" [Undecided,New]22:06
dimsk so at least our range is good.22:06
dimspsutil changed their api for 2.0.022:06
dhellmanndims: figures22:07
dhellmanndims: that requirement range should exclude 2.0.0 or higher22:07
dimsdhellmann: what should it look like? using a '!'?22:09
dhellmanndims: no, I mean as it is written it should already not allow 2.0.0 or higher22:09
dhellmanndims: we should be fine as we are right now22:09
dimsright so we are good22:09
dims:)22:09
dimswhew22:10
dimsthanks for confirming22:10
dhellmannit will be a little challenging to upgrade, since we'll need to provide an incubated version of the module that works with both versions of psutils before we can graduate and drop the older version22:10
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dhellmanndims: I left a comment on the bug with the steps I think we'll need to go through22:12
dimsthanks dhellmann22:12
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e0neNakato: added some questions inline in your proposal. i will be following this initiative and try to do my best in contribution22:24
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Nakatodhellmann: With regards to oslo.service, I haven't got any traction finding a primary maintainer.  Any ideas how I should move forward with that?  What sort of qualaties should I be looking for?22:39
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jungleboyjAnyone aware of the library releases breaking grenade today?23:13
jungleboyjSeeing a version conflict with unittest2 in one of our runs.23:13
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Allow injected atom args to be persisted (WIP)  https://review.openstack.org/16315923:19
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