Wednesday, 2015-01-21

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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/debtcollector: Add a moved *instance* method deprecation pattern  https://review.openstack.org/14875900:17
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openstackgerritManish Godara proposed openstack/taskflow: add clarification re parallel engine  https://review.openstack.org/14323101:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/taskflow: Have the serial task executor shutdown/restart its executor  https://review.openstack.org/14799405:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/taskflow: Mirror the task executor methods in the retry action  https://review.openstack.org/14798205:44
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/14775506:07
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/14325606:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/taskflow: Move the jobboard/job bases to a jobboard/base module  https://review.openstack.org/14324606:30
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: The gathered runtime is for failures/not failures  https://review.openstack.org/14881006:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/taskflow: Provide the stopwatch elapsed method a maximum  https://review.openstack.org/14766107:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/taskflow: Move implementation(s) to there own sections  https://review.openstack.org/14324907:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/taskflow: Move the persistence base to the parent directory  https://review.openstack.org/14322607:57
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* flaper87 loved the email about private symbols!08:19
flaper87dhellmann: ^08:19
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Separate add_periodic_task from the metaclass __init__  https://review.openstack.org/14756708:46
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Fix H238 to allow parent classes to be returned by a function  https://review.openstack.org/14856408:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: Port zmq driver to Python 3  https://review.openstack.org/14524108:55
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: Add more private symbols to the old namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/14873608:55
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Separate add_periodic_task from the metaclass __init__  https://review.openstack.org/14756709:03
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dtantsurbnemec, hi, I've updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147567 please have one more look09:07
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Allow overriding name for periodic tasks  https://review.openstack.org/14885409:18
dtantsurbnemec, and this one ^^^ if you don't mind09:19
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openstackgerritVisnusaran Murugan proposed openstack/oslo.utils: context-manager to trap, log and ignore exception  https://review.openstack.org/13106809:28
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Allow overriding name for periodic tasks  https://review.openstack.org/14885409:52
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alexpilottisileht: hello10:56
silehtalexpilotti, hi10:56
alexpilottisileht: I’m trying to get the new AMQP driver to work with Windows Azure Service Bus :-)10:57
alexpilottisileht: dhellmann suggested that you are the authority on this topic :-)10:57
silehtalexpilotti, I can help10:58
alexpilottisileht: tx!10:58
alexpilottisileht: so proton is working fine, while it seems that I have some issues with pyngus10:59
alexpilottisileht: my config: http://paste.openstack.org/show/159647/11:01
alexpilottisileht: this is from a nova.conf11:01
alexpilottisileht: note that Azure Service Bus supports only amqps11:02
alexpilottisileht: here’s a simple working proton example: http://paste.openstack.org/show/159648/11:03
alexpilottisileht: the first question is: how do I specify a “namespace” (DemoSB in the example url)? at first glance it seems that it gets stripped from the url if I try to add it11:04
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silehtalexpilotti, authentification/namespace are on the TODO, not yet implemented11:06
alexpilottisileht: ouch, do you have a pointer on where I can hack support for the namespace?11:07
silehtalexpilotti, as you can see here, only the hosts are read from the url: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo_messaging/_drivers/protocols/amqp/driver.py#L19611:07
alexpilottisileht: basic auth works for me BTW, except a small bug fro which I’ll send a fix11:07
alexpilottisileht: those “hosts” conatin all the info from what I saw11:08
alexpilottisileht: *contain11:08
alexpilottisileht: I’m restacking, I can get a trace in 1’11:09
alexpilottisileht: just for a PoC, do you know where I could hardcode a namespace?11:09
silehtalexpilotti, but the 'namespace' is called virtual_host in the TransportUrl11:10
silehtalexpilotti, and it seems not used in this driver11:11
alexpilottisileht: ok, great, any clue where should I add it? somewhere here? https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo_messaging/_drivers/protocols/amqp/eventloop.py11:11
alexpilottisileht: I can follow the bread crumbs of course, just wondering if by any chance you have already an idea since you are definitely more familiar with the code base11:12
silehtalexpilotti, nop, perhaps kgiusti can tell you more (he writes pyngus) and this driver11:12
silehtalexpilotti, perhaps you need to add namespace support to pyngus first11:14
alexpilottisileht: tx! I’ll ping him!11:15
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Fix functionnal tests  https://review.openstack.org/14888911:25
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Refactor the replies waiter code.  https://review.openstack.org/14889011:25
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: RabbitMQ heartbeat implementation  https://review.openstack.org/14889111:25
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Speedup the rabbit tests  https://review.openstack.org/14889211:25
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Speedup the rabbit tests  https://review.openstack.org/14889211:49
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Refactor the replies waiter code  https://review.openstack.org/14889011:49
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: RabbitMQ heartbeat implementation  https://review.openstack.org/14889111:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/14150911:50
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: RabbitMQ heartbeat implementation  https://review.openstack.org/14604713:11
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openstackgerritBrant Knudson proposed openstack/oslo.policy: Update .gitignore  https://review.openstack.org/14867113:33
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openstackgerritJames Page proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: zmq: Refactor test case shared code  https://review.openstack.org/14495413:49
openstackgerritJames Page proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: zmq: support Cinder multi-backend server targets  https://review.openstack.org/12918513:53
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed openstack/oslo.config: Add a list_all_sections method to ConfigOpts  https://review.openstack.org/14893614:16
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openstackgerritxhzhf proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: oslo.vmware: getattr throw exception insteading returning none  https://review.openstack.org/14704414:44
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.middleware: Add healthcheck middleware  https://review.openstack.org/14780514:48
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alexpilottikgiusti: hi14:49
kgiustialexpilotti: hello14:49
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alexpilottikgiusti: I sent you an email today about AMQP + Azure Service Bus Integration14:51
alexpilottikgiusti: I actually managed to get it working in the end by skipping the namespaces14:51
alexpilottikgiusti: I have now a question about queues and topics14:52
kgiustialexpilotti: so sorry - you ended up in my spam folder :(14:52
kgiustialexpilotti: got it now...14:52
alexpilottikgiusti: heh, np :-)14:52
sileht²/114:53
alexpilottikgiusti: is the AMQP driver taking care of creating the queues (and topics?) or is the user/admin supposed to create them before?14:54
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kgiustialexpilotti: currently the admin needs to configure qpidd to auto-create queues&topics via an address prefix match14:54
kgiustialexpilotti: qpidd supports "queue-pattern" and "topic-pattern" config options - let me send you a link with more detail....14:55
dhellmannflaper87: thanks; feel free to add comments, if you haven't already14:56
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kgiustialexpilotti: there's a how-to in the oslo.messaging doc sources - see the Configuration section in https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.messaging/tree/doc/source/AMQP1.0.rst14:58
alexpilottikgiusti: ok, tx14:59
alexpilottikgiusti: you mean the queue-patterns=exclusive, etc part?14:59
kgiustialexpilotti: yes, those entries need to be added to your qpidd.conf configuration file.15:00
alexpilottikgiusti: I’m not using qpidd as a AMQP server15:00
alexpilottikgiusti: I’m using Azure Service Bus (on premise)15:01
alexpilottikgiusti: it supports AMQP 1.015:01
kgiustialexpilotti: aha - so that doc isn't going to be of much use :(15:01
kgiustialexpilotti: the only two amqp 1.0 "brokers" I've used the driver with are qpidd and qpid-dispatch15:02
kgiustialexpilotti: and I'm not too familiar with Azure Service Bus.15:02
kgiustialexpilotti: but I can explain a bit about what the addressing requirements are from the olso.messaging driver's point of view, if that help.15:03
alexpilottikgiusti: tx!15:03
alexpilottikgiusti: let me collect some additional logs that might help15:03
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ihrachyshkaflaper87, dims__: seems to be incorrect: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo_messaging/notify/notifier.py#L10715:06
ihrachyshkawe still use old namespace at: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo_messaging/notify/notifier.py#L13315:06
ihrachyshkaright?15:06
kgiustialexpilotti: you should take a moment a review the design spec for the olso driver, esp. the description of the address formats.15:08
silehtihrachyshka, it's the name of the entry_point15:08
dims__ihrachyshka: see oslo.messaging setup.cfg - oslo.messaging.notify.drivers15:08
silehtihrachyshka, https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/setup.cfg#L4815:08
ihrachyshkasileht, yes, I know. so why does comment says that we should use oslo_messaging.notify.drivers?15:08
dims__ihrachyshka: ack, that's probably wrong :) sileht can advise15:09
kgiustialexpilotti: the olso driver has an additional requirement that must be provided by the 'broker' it is communicating with: the broker must support dynamically-addressed links15:09
silehtdims__, only oslo.messaging use stevedore in oslo.* libs?15:09
silehtdims__, oslo.config do the same: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.log/blob/master/setup.cfg#L3015:10
dims__sileht: y we should keep it as is15:10
silehtentry_point looks keep the old name15:10
kgiustialexpilotti: this is based on the 'dynamic' address flag as described in the 1.0 spec.   The olso driver uses this flag when requesting a queue for reply messages.15:10
dims__just fix the comment'15:10
dims__jd__: flaper87: hopefully a quick one in oslo.config - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145280/15:11
dims__when you get a chance! thanks15:11
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kgiustialexpilotti: This allows the clients to have a dynamic reply-to address supplied by the broker, which is put into the RPC requests.15:11
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Fixed docstring for Notifier  https://review.openstack.org/14895215:12
ihrachyshkadims__, sileht: ^^15:12
kgiustialexpilotti: Not 100% sure if Azure has implemented that capability.15:12
alexpilottikgiusti: I fear it’s not implemented15:13
silehtihrachyshka, thx15:15
kgiustialexpilotti: mmmm that will be a problem for the current driver.  Get those logs in any case and I'll have a look.15:16
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dims__ihrachyshka: +2'ed15:22
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openstackgerritKobi Samoray proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: VMWare NSXv: Common components  https://review.openstack.org/14678015:31
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Fix H238 to allow parent classes to be returned by a function  https://review.openstack.org/14856415:31
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alexpilottikgiusti: sorry, got detoured by a call :-)15:43
alexpilottikgiusti: here’s a sample log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/159789/15:43
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kgiustialexpilotti: ok, I'll take a look...15:43
alexpilottikgiusti: the error is: The messaging entity 'sb://oslodemo.servicebus.windows.net/unicast.nova.scheduler' could not be found15:44
alexpilottikgiusti: if I create manually a queue called “unicast.nova.scheduler” it works, as in, I have no errors15:44
alexpilottikgiusti: are all the queues and topics predefined or are there some dynamic temporary one that need to be created?15:45
alexpilottikgiusti: in other words, in the nova-scheduler case in this example, is it enough if I just create manually:15:46
kragnizanyone know roughly when the next oslo.middleware release will be?15:46
alexpilottikgiusti: queues: unicast.nova.scheduler, unicast.nova.scheduler and topics: broadcast.nova.scheduler and broadcast.nova.scheduler.hostname ?15:47
kragnizjd__: any idea about ^ ?15:50
jd__kragniz: nop, ask gordc15:50
kragnizjd__: cool, thanks15:50
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: RabbitMQ heartbeat implementation  https://review.openstack.org/14604715:56
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Refactor the replies waiter code  https://review.openstack.org/14889015:56
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kgiustialexpilotti: sorry - chatting with some amqp 1.0 experts atm...16:01
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alexpilottikgiusti: np!16:01
kgiustialexpilotti: I think you've correctly diagnosed the problems we're going to have with using ASB with that driver (as it currently stands):16:02
kgiustialexpilotti: 1) creation of nodes (queues) on demand, and 2) dynamic addressing16:03
alexpilottikgiusti: do you think we could handle the queues creation and dynamic addressing in the driver or do we need additional AMQP features in ASB?16:04
kgiustialexpilotti: for #1, I can't find information whether or not ASB supports that.  Seems like it requires out-of-band management....16:05
kgiustialexpilotti: letting the driver handle it is preferred, but very broker-specific.16:05
alexpilottikgiusti: the alternative would be to inherit an ASB driver from the AMQP one and add some ASB specific code in place of the dynamic creation, but it’d be pretty ugly16:06
kgiustialexpilotti: that would be a start, with the goal of identifying the differences and perhaps isolating them via config or a loadable module.16:07
kgiustialexpilotti: but I digress - trying to pre-configure all the queues/topics needed for running Openstack is going to be a major pain, and probably very brittle (new services can add queues/etc at any time).16:07
alexpilottikgiusti: for now I just need a POC16:08
alexpilottikgiusti: so even if we have to pre-create them it’s fine16:08
kgiustialexpilotti: that's only part of the story (unfortunately) - you still have to deal with the dynamic reply-to address stuff16:09
alexpilottikgiusti: the queues seem fine, but I cant seem to find the corect way to create the topics and teh subscriptions16:09
kgiustialexpilotti: but that may be easier16:09
alexpilottikgiusti: this error worries me: [condition=:"amqp:not-implemented", description="Dynamic terminus is not currently supported..TrackingId:4784d10c31244595b932054cb422c324_GHV12R202,TimeStamp:1/21/2015 3:42:11 PM"]16:10
openstackgerritKobi Samoray proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: VMWare NSXv: Common components  https://review.openstack.org/14678016:10
kgiustialexpilotti: or maybe not - you'd have to create a topic that clients could subscribe to using a unique uuid (as the reply-to address)16:10
kgiustialexpilotti: that error is exactly the dynamic reply to problem :O16:10
alexpilottikgiusti: ok I’m going to involve somebody in the ASB team at MSFT to see if they have plans for supporting it before taking the workaround route16:11
kgiustialexpilotti: as an alternative you could create a global "Replies" topic that all clients subscribe to, each with their own unique filter.16:12
kgiustialexpilotti: the two questions for them are "can I create nodes on demand via subscribe/publish" and "when can you support dynamic addresses"16:12
alexpilottikgiusti: ok tx!16:13
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kgiustialexpilotti: also, you can involve the qpid folk via dev@qpid.apache.org or on freenode #qpid - there's a few proton developers there and it might be a good place to hook up those MSFT folks16:14
kgiustialexpilotti: and, of course, me if you need any more details for MSFT re: the oslo driver (kgiusti@gmail.com)16:15
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: kombu: fix driver loading with kombu+qpid scheme  https://review.openstack.org/14005916:15
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alexpilottikgiusti: will do! Thanks!16:16
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: add shortcut to healthcheck middleware  https://review.openstack.org/14897716:22
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alexpilottikgiusti: ASB has a REST API: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/azure/hh780776.aspx16:34
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alexpilottikgiusti: this can be used to manage queues, topics and subscriptions16:35
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kgiustialexpilotti: ok so it's at least possible to have them created via the driver.   There'd be some work in modifying the driver to add that capability though.16:42
alexpilottikgiusti: indeed16:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.policy: Move project imports after 3rd party imports  https://review.openstack.org/14874316:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: Fixed docstring for Notifier  https://review.openstack.org/14895216:55
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Speedup the rabbit tests  https://review.openstack.org/14889217:00
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: RabbitMQ heartbeat implementation  https://review.openstack.org/14604717:00
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Fix functionnal tests  https://review.openstack.org/14888917:00
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Refactor the replies waiter code  https://review.openstack.org/14889017:00
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: RabbitMQ heartbeat implementation  https://review.openstack.org/14604717:01
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Refactor the replies waiter code  https://review.openstack.org/14889017:01
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.config: Support i18n messages in config generator  https://review.openstack.org/14528017:25
dims__flaper87: ^^ thanks for the review17:26
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zzzeekrpodolyaka: i dont know about “magical” in this case https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138215/.   it’s got a bunch of moving parts, but nothing “spooky at a distance”.   recent revisions are much better organized than earlier ones too.18:14
zzzeekrpodolyaka: maybe the __Deepcopy__ part, but that is a rare edge case18:15
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Add a wbe request state diagram + explanation  https://review.openstack.org/14905021:09
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Add a wbe request state diagram + explanation  https://review.openstack.org/14905021:09
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Add a wbe request state diagram + explanation  https://review.openstack.org/14905021:10
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krotscheckI don’t suppose someone here can tell me how oslo releases versions? I’d like to start versioning storyboard, and Im not certain what needs to be added other than openstack-publish-jobs.21:34
bnemeckrotscheck: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/ReleaseProcess21:35
bnemeckrotscheck: For the Gerrit setup of the projects we use the documentation here: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html21:37
krotscheckbnemec: Thanks. Looks like I’ve got some reading to do.21:37
bnemecParticularly http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#adding-the-repository-to-the-ci-system21:37
bnemeckrotscheck: Yeah, it's quite a process :-)21:37
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krotscheckAaahhhh… pushsignedtag.21:39
krotscheckThat’s what I’m missing.21:39
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use monotonic time when/if available  https://review.openstack.org/14421222:27
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Rework the sqlalchemy backend  https://review.openstack.org/12611022:37
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use the new table length constants  https://review.openstack.org/12616622:37
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Allow loading conductors via entrypoints  https://review.openstack.org/12461722:42
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use monotonic time when/if available  https://review.openstack.org/14421222:43
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.concurrency: Update Oslo imports to remove namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/14907523:14
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: WBE documentation tweaks/adjustments  https://review.openstack.org/14908123:33
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.db: Update Oslo imports to remove namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/14908323:37
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Fix persistence doc inheritance hierarchy  https://review.openstack.org/14908423:45
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.log: Update Oslo imports to remove namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/14909023:56

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