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| tkelsey | hello all, any oslo.messaging people in here? | 09:35 |
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| dims | jd__: dhellmann: here's where we have to start next round of library-ization - http://bit.ly/oslo-pre-kilo | 13:30 |
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| jd__ | cool dims | 13:30 |
| jd__ | hey we didn't release oslo.log yet right? cf https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123868/ | 13:31 |
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| jd__ | is dhellmann getting more eager than me to remove code or what! :) | 13:31 |
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| dims | jd__: oslo.log and oslo.concurrency need to put out releases | 13:42 |
| dims | jd__: hehe | 13:43 |
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| sileht | /1/2 | 14:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Remove code that moved to oslo.i18n https://review.openstack.org/123845 | 14:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Remove our custom test base class https://review.openstack.org/123824 | 14:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Remove oslo.log code and clean up versionutils API https://review.openstack.org/123868 | 14:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Remove graduated config modules https://review.openstack.org/123833 | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | jd__, dims : I needed to rebase some of those commits you've already approved ^^ | 14:49 |
| jd__ | let's do it again then | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | for some reason no changes were needed, just the rebase, so the 2 +2 are still there | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | I can wait for the tests to pass and then +2a them | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | or you guys can do it now :-) | 14:51 |
| jd__ | just did with dims | 14:51 |
| jd__ | not sure if we can approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123868/ yet? | 14:51 |
| dhellmann | I guess we need a release of oslo.log first | 14:51 |
| jd__ | yeah I think so | 14:52 |
| dhellmann | I need to go back and look at what we agreed to do, but I think that's safer | 14:52 |
| dhellmann | I'll mark it WIP | 14:52 |
| dims | k yanked my +2 from that | 14:52 |
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| jd__ | well if you have a new project that wants to use oslo.log and cant because it's neither release nor in the incubator anymore… :) | 14:52 |
| dims | dhellmann: when will they reopen global reqs? | 14:53 |
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| dhellmann | dims: after the final release is declared complete, so soon | 14:54 |
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| dims | dhellmann: cool, latest graph on library-ization - http://bit.ly/oslo-pre-kilo - not sure if you saw it. no surprises, looks good | 14:55 |
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| dhellmann | dims: looks good. Didn't uuidutils go into oslo.utils? I think there are a few others in there that will go away when we merge bnemec's patches to remove concurrency and serialization, too | 14:57 |
| dhellmann | dims: he's on PTO, isn't he? we might want to take those patches over | 14:58 |
| dims | dhellmann: ah ok. will do | 14:58 |
| dhellmann | dims: pick one, and I'll take the other after I grab something to eat | 14:58 |
| dhellmann | dims: oh, did you look into the locals issue? | 14:59 |
| dims | dhellmann: oslo.concurrency one we can't touch till we get a release out | 14:59 |
| dhellmann | dims: good point, maybe WIP that one? | 14:59 |
| dims | so it's just the oslo.serialization one | 14:59 |
| dims | yep | 14:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Delete graduated serialization files https://review.openstack.org/122797 | 15:15 |
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| dhellmann | bnemec: welcome back! | 15:17 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Thanks! | 15:17 |
| dims | hey bnemec! just updated the oslo-inc/oslo.serialz review of yours :) | 15:18 |
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| dims | bnemec: just lined it up at the end of in dhellmann's patch series. hope its ok | 15:20 |
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| bnemec | dims: Yeah, I saw that, thanks. I realized Friday night that I forgot the MAINTAINERS file, but I didn't realize there were all the other changes. | 15:21 |
| bnemec | This is what happens when I try to do something in a hurry. :-) | 15:21 |
| dims | dhellmann: uuidutils did not make it to oslo.utils... | 15:21 |
| dims | bnemec: hehe | 15:21 |
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| dhellmann | dims: do you remember why uuidutils didn't make it? it seems like we went back and forth on whether it should | 15:39 |
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| dims | dhellmann: i think we thought folks should just use uuid.UUID | 15:44 |
| dhellmann | dims: yeah, ok | 15:45 |
| dims | dhellmann: or uuid.uuid4. it's just that we have too many references to it. we should just add it to oslo.utils | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I think probably -- is_uuid_like looks useful, too | 15:45 |
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| dims | dhellmann: here's what i have for now - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals (yet another etherpad!) | 17:33 |
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| harlowja | dims do u want to include https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120630/ ? | 17:33 |
| harlowja | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120294/ | 17:34 |
| harlowja | ? | 17:34 |
| harlowja | negative code lines ftw, lol | 17:34 |
| dhellmann | dims: what do you think about updating https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/GraduationStatus instead of the etherpad, to keep the history in one place? | 17:38 |
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| harlowja | do u guys have a quick sec to do a simple doc review, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122957 | 17:40 |
| harlowja | shows more of the docs, http://docs-draft.openstack.org/57/122957/5/check/gate-taskflow-docs/32fd7e2/doc/build/html/ | 17:40 |
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| dhellmann | harlowja: looking | 17:42 |
| harlowja | thx | 17:42 |
| harlowja | maybe shows to much of the docs (not sure, haha) | 17:42 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: that's so subjective, I'm not going to quibble :-) | 17:43 |
| harlowja | ya | 17:43 |
| harlowja | i think it looks nicer | 17:43 |
| harlowja | easier to find things when its 3 levels deep | 17:43 |
| harlowja | thx | 17:44 |
| * harlowja back to fixing rebase problems | 17:44 | |
| gordc | dims: do you know if cliutils is still valid? i see it's orphaned in maintainers file | 17:46 |
| dims | harlowja: awesome! (120630) | 17:48 |
| dhellmann | dims: I left a few comments based on my recollection from the last time we discussed these things. | 17:48 |
| harlowja | dims thx, let me know if i busted anything in those reviews, ha | 17:48 |
| dims | dhellmann: wanted to run it by everyone before updating wiki (seems kind of final-ish if i do that right away) | 17:48 |
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| harlowja | and also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120620/ | 17:49 |
| dhellmann | dims: that's fair | 17:49 |
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| dims | gordc: y still need to check who uses stuff | 17:49 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: +2a on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120630/ | 17:49 |
| harlowja | cool | 17:49 |
| harlowja | once oslo.utils releases the reflection thing that i just put into it, that will delete another chunk | 17:50 |
| harlowja | but i guess that needs a oslo.utils release or something | 17:50 |
| harlowja | *no real rush imho | 17:50 |
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| gordc | dims: ok, cool cool. just asking because i was thinking of fixing an issue in ceilometerclient but wasn't sure if i should do it in cliutils | 17:50 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: some of the methods in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120620/3/taskflow/test.py might be useful in the oslotest base class | 17:51 |
| harlowja | dhellmann agreed | 17:51 |
| gordc | seems like no one is using it in clients... or not that i noticed. | 17:51 |
| dhellmann | gordc, dims : the api client code is being created from the clients, so it's not yet ready to be used by any of them | 17:51 |
| dhellmann | gordc, dims: I think we should support the sdk team, instead of building a parallel project, but I guess there is some value in standardizing the clients that exist now | 17:52 |
| dims | dhellmann: we can let them take it over...apiclient/* and cliutils.py | 17:53 |
| dhellmann | dims: they're starting from scratch because the existing code base is so messy | 17:53 |
| gordc | dhellmann: seems like a good idea. | 17:53 |
| dims | dhellmann: i see | 17:53 |
| harlowja | has there been any thought of creating a clientbuilder or something that takes the rest specifications and turns them into client code? i wonder if anything like that exists that actually creates useful clients... | 17:54 |
| * harlowja a guy was doing some internal thing in a similar manner (not publicly released) | 17:54 | |
| dhellmann | harlowja: every time someone talks about building that I have to say: SOAP | 17:54 |
| harlowja | ya, i've seen multiple attempts of that at yahoo ;) | 17:54 |
| harlowja | with varying success, ha | 17:54 |
| dhellmann | everyone hates soap, and then wants to build a thing that has its features | 17:54 |
| dims | dhellmann: lol, am a SOAP/WS-* guy in prev life | 17:55 |
| harlowja | ya, just don't call it soap, lol | 17:55 |
| dhellmann | dims: I've had some success with it, too | 17:55 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: JOAP | 17:55 |
| harlowja | woot | 17:55 |
| dims | :) | 17:55 |
| dhellmann | dims: nice work on the library analysis, btw | 17:55 |
| dims | thanks | 17:56 |
| harlowja | i believe an architect at yahoo is building that kind of descriptor langauge and making clients with it, wonder how that has worked out (like the 3rd or 4th time i've seen someone try this) | 17:56 |
| dims | dhellmann: we should ask keystone folks to take over ./openstack/common/crypto/utils.py does not seem to be used | 17:56 |
| dhellmann | dims: keystone or kite, yeah | 17:57 |
| dims | dhellmann: who should we ask? dolph? | 17:57 |
| dims | harlowja: if you have heard/used Apache Axis/Axis2, you can blame me for it | 17:58 |
| dhellmann | dims: he's still the ptl for a few weeks :-) | 17:58 |
| harlowja | i've heard, haven't used, but i'll blame u dims | 17:58 |
| harlowja | lol | 17:58 |
| dims | dhellmann: lol | 17:58 |
| dims | harlowja: :) | 17:58 |
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| harlowja | if anyone sees any eventlet issues, seems like the newest eventlet that openstack is using is borked :-/ | 18:03 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/142#issuecomment-56844972 | 18:03 |
| harlowja | found that one yesterday, https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/137 also seems to be affecting openstack :-/ | 18:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: add list_opts to all modules with configuration options https://review.openstack.org/113940 | 18:03 |
| harlowja | when i see 'I must say Eventlet 0.15.2 is unstable in this regard' from the repo owner, and then i look at the openstack requirements and see that it is recommending eventlet>=0.15.1 that scares me, lol | 18:04 |
| harlowja | hopefully fixed soon :-/ | 18:05 |
| harlowja | before people deploying openstack get that version | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, ugh. | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, REALLY? | 18:05 |
| harlowja | seems so :-/ | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, doh! | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | ok yeah we should get infra in on that. | 18:06 |
| harlowja | morganfainberg i dropped that into there IRC earlier today | 18:06 |
| harlowja | although not sure what can be done about it :-/ | 18:06 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, i'd send a message to the ML, it might be something we need to pin to 0.15.1 :( | 18:07 |
| harlowja | seems like the bash thing is on top of peopels mind more than eventlet bugs, lol | 18:07 |
| harlowja | morganfainberg sure i can do that | 18:07 |
| harlowja | although 0.15.1 i found to not also work | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | kazoo specific or openstack widE? | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | i'd think we'd have far worse problems if it was openstack wide | 18:08 |
| harlowja | unsure | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | in both cases we're not seeing massive failures that look eventlet related | 18:08 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/137 is apparently affecting openstack | 18:08 |
| harlowja | 142 might be but not as much, not sure | 18:09 |
| harlowja | something weird changed in https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/commit/8f98f8b63443 and/or https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/commit/da8771671468989 | 18:09 |
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| * morganfainberg is not a fan of eventlet. | 18:09 | |
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| morganfainberg | i think we should seriously consider running all of OpenStack under mod_wsgi/gunicorn/uwsgi/etc | 18:10 |
| harlowja | morganfainberg i'd be fine with that, except we have this big wart that u'd have to remove before that i think is possible right | 18:10 |
| harlowja | that wart being eventlet, lol | 18:10 |
| harlowja | and the amount of code we put into do forking and stuff.. | 18:11 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, nah, you stop using evenlet and use those instead. | 18:11 |
| morganfainberg | we've successfully done it for keystone :) | 18:11 |
| harlowja | ya, i know | 18:11 |
| morganfainberg | but, it's no small task to do | 18:11 |
| harlowja | ya | 18:11 |
| harlowja | thats the crappy part, lol | 18:11 |
| harlowja | in ideal world where eventlet is transparent, it would be a small task | 18:12 |
| harlowja | u just stop using it, and switch to the other model | 18:12 |
| harlowja | but doesn't seem like thats reality, sadly | 18:12 |
| morganfainberg | yep | 18:13 |
| * morganfainberg watches zuul slowly tick away on gate | 18:14 | |
| harlowja | morganfainberg was there ever any kind of blog post that showed how keystone moved away from eventlet, the drawbacks, the pain that happened.... | 18:15 |
| harlowja | i could see that being useful | 18:15 |
| harlowja | showing people it really is possible | 18:15 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:15 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, not really a blog post. | 18:15 |
| harlowja | wanna write one ;) | 18:15 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:15 |
| morganfainberg | but basically we have a "how to run under apache" and we isolated all eventlet code patching stuff to keystone.common.environment | 18:16 |
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| morganfainberg | and we don't call that module except if you use the keystone-all script to start keystone | 18:16 |
| harlowja | right, it'd be neat to read over how it was done and what had to change, what the problems were... | 18:16 |
| morganfainberg | hehe, support for keystone apache was before i started working on keystone | 18:16 |
| morganfainberg | it's been around since at least grizzly maybe earlier | 18:16 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, https://github.com/openstack/keystone/tree/folsom-eol/httpd | 18:17 |
| harlowja | ya, sounds about right, from when i saw the apache configuration files show up, ha | 18:17 |
| morganfainberg | so folsom | 18:17 |
| morganfainberg | i was barely a contributor to OpenStack back then | 18:17 |
| morganfainberg | though i've been writing code for openstack integration since essex | 18:17 |
| harlowja | a baby contributor | 18:18 |
| harlowja | *not really a baby.... | 18:18 |
| * harlowja joke not working, lol | 18:18 | |
| harlowja | will now be quiet, ha | 18:18 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, hah | 18:18 |
| harlowja | anyway, could be neat blog post and motivate other projects to do the same ;) | 18:19 |
| harlowja | then all that service forking stuff could be gone | 18:19 |
| harlowja | forking, child management... | 18:20 |
| morganfainberg | yeah, maybe i can convince ayoung to help write it | 18:20 |
| morganfainberg | since i think he did a lot of the apache stuff for keystone initally | 18:20 |
| harlowja | sounds good | 18:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Move failure to its own type specific module https://review.openstack.org/102091 | 18:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Mark 'task_notifier' as renamed to 'atom_notifier' https://review.openstack.org/103286 | 18:25 |
| harlowja | morganfainberg https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70914/ might be useful for keystone, i'm not sure it keystone uses oslo.messaging | 18:31 |
| harlowja | that one though could be useful to get off eventlet... | 18:31 |
| harlowja | when eventlet monkey patches the threading module, those 2 executors should run exactly the same | 18:32 |
| dhellmann | dims, bnemec, jd__ : a few of the changes in the series for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121214/2 are approved, but not some of the early ones | 18:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Hoist the notifier to its own module https://review.openstack.org/102372 | 18:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Add a history retry object, makes retry histories easier to use https://review.openstack.org/123616 | 18:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Allow the proxy to create and provide a retry policy https://review.openstack.org/117901 | 18:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Be explicit about publish keyword arguments https://review.openstack.org/117896 | 18:50 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: reading that namespace proposal now | 18:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Deprecate `engine_conf` and prefer `engine` instead https://review.openstack.org/122065 | 18:52 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: does this work where the various packages may not be in the same site-packages dir? we have that come up with nova devs, since their tox config uses global site-packages to get to the libvirt libraries | 18:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Start adding a environment for py34/py33 https://review.openstack.org/119968 | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Create a nested helper function that will work on py3.x https://review.openstack.org/120195 | 18:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Fix more invalid encoding and scoping issues https://review.openstack.org/120198 | 18:56 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: ahha | 18:57 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: it won't, but libvirt is now pip installable | 18:57 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: it would if I push on importlib2 | 18:58 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: yeah, I don't know if we've made the changes necessary for that yet | 18:58 |
| dhellmann | (pip installable libvirt) | 18:58 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: we could make it work if we write a pth file for them | 18:58 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: I have on my todo list for this week or next to experiment with packaging oslo.i18n with a ns pkg that just imports from oslo_i18n as a backwards-compatibility layer | 18:58 |
| dhellmann | with the idea that maybe by the end of kilo, and certainly by the end of L, we could change the imports in the other projects and then have a 2.x of oslo.i18n that does not use the ns pkg | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | we wouldn't have to change the name of the lib, just the python package name | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | and we'd do it for all of the libs, of course, that's just an example | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | I need to see if/how it would work, though | 19:00 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: so this is migrate away from namespaces | 19:00 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 19:00 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I think we can make namespaces work sanely | 19:00 |
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| dhellmann | we're doing some edge-case-y stuff here, so I'm worried we'll just be adding a pile of complexity | 19:01 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: PEP-420 is sane, and if we avoid the pip issue/3, which my approach does, it seems pretty straight forward | 19:01 |
| dhellmann | is 420 supported by python 2? | 19:02 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: plan is to do that via importlib2 | 19:02 |
| lifeless | which is importlib backported | 19:02 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: I didn't propose that in my email because I realised we can take a simpler path which is just using the stdlib namespace approach that 420 deprecated | 19:03 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: but if we need the whole hog I can push on importlib2 | 19:04 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: I don't know the plans for libvirt in the nova unit tests, so I don't know if we can avoid supporting that case | 19:05 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: oh, we can | 19:06 |
| dhellmann | we're likely to hit that case in other circumstances anyway | 19:06 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: as I said, I just hadn't factored it in | 19:06 |
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| dhellmann | so how does importlib2 implement this? does an app need to take any action? | 19:07 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: it chains into builtins and sys.meta_path when its hook is installed | 19:08 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: so the app needs to do that before importing oslo code? | 19:08 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: we'd support this by having it installed using a .pth file | 19:08 |
| dhellmann | via pbr? | 19:08 |
| lifeless | yeah, my patch to importlib2 making the hook idempotent was merged already | 19:09 |
| lifeless | but there's still some breakage there | 19:09 |
| lifeless | so you'd want to leave the specific impl to me to do and come back on | 19:09 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: that said | 19:09 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: can you think of more requirements ? I'll report back on split namespaces between sys and venv shortly | 19:10 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I'm just poking around to find out how virtualenv captures the original lib path | 19:10 |
| lifeless | I should probably ask dstanek | 19:10 |
| lifeless | erm | 19:10 |
| lifeless | dstufft | 19:10 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: I think you have the other requirements captured | 19:10 |
| dhellmann | I'm probably more interested in finishing the pbr semver stuff, since we have a potential way to move away from ns pkgs if we have to | 19:11 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: right, I'm waiting on mordred to ack the change | 19:12 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: yeah, just mentioning relative priorities | 19:12 |
| lifeless | sure | 19:13 |
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| harlowja | dims added a comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124096/ let me know what u think | 19:28 |
| harlowja | the is_uuid_like function not exactly very superb i guess, lol | 19:28 |
| harlowja | or maybe its a further change to make that function better, just was interesting to see what python thinks is a valid uuid, and what that function doesn't | 19:29 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Sorry, I'm having trouble with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121214/2 | 19:30 |
| bnemec | I left a comment on the review | 19:30 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: looking | 19:31 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: ah, yeah, I have an alias set up in my ssh config but you're right about the port | 19:31 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Ah, that makes sense. With the port specified it seems to be working fine for me. | 19:33 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: yeah, I'm testing a change and I'll resubmit | 19:33 |
| dhellmann | good catch | 19:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Do not try to show changes of non-master branches https://review.openstack.org/121584 | 19:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Script to print a list of the official oslo repos https://review.openstack.org/121215 | 19:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Script to list unreleased changes in all oslo projects https://review.openstack.org/121216 | 19:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Add a script for checking out all OpenStack repos https://review.openstack.org/121214 | 19:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Change clone_openstack.sh to ignore stackforge by default https://review.openstack.org/121244 | 19:37 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: see what you made me do? :-) ^^ | 19:37 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Heh, sorry. :-) | 19:38 |
| dhellmann | just kidding around, that was a good catch | 19:38 |
| bnemec | Yeah, that wasn't really something I thought we could just fix in a follow-up. | 19:39 |
| dhellmann | dims, bnemec : looking at oslo.log, I think we need to release a version so we can make the incubator use it, so we can remove the incubated modules in oslo.log | 19:41 |
| bnemec | Oh, nice. At least it didn't hose up the votes on the subsequent patches. | 19:41 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: yeah, those didn't change other than the rebase so new gerrit doesn't throw the votes away | 19:41 |
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| bnemec | \o/ | 19:42 |
| dims | dhellmann: +1 | 19:42 |
| dhellmann | I'll work on some other cleanup stuff for oslo.log to prepare for that | 19:43 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: So it's got a circular dependency on its own release? | 19:43 |
| dims | dhellmann: bnemec: small luxuries of life :) " rebase so new gerrit doesn't throw the votes" | 19:43 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: yeah, because it uses an incubated module that isn't in another library yet (fileutils, though I should look at why that's being used) | 19:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/oslo.i18n: Remove empty translation files https://review.openstack.org/124150 | 19:44 |
| bnemec | I suppose that makes sense. A lot of code needs logging. | 19:44 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: So we'd release it, convert incubator to use it, remove the incubator modules from oslo.log, and release an incubator-free oslo.log? | 19:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove empty translation files https://review.openstack.org/124152 | 19:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/oslo.utils: Remove empty translation files https://review.openstack.org/124153 | 19:49 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: yeah, that's the idea | 19:51 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Okay, sounds reasonable. Just making sure I understand. | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/oslotest: Handle tempfile content encoding https://review.openstack.org/123919 | 19:52 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: it looks like only the tests use fileutils, so maybe I can fix that | 19:52 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: So fileutils didn't go into oslo.utils? Is it planned for a different lib? | 19:53 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: I think we had it slated for oslo.io for some reason | 19:53 |
| dhellmann | dims started looking at the current modules again, and made notes in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals | 19:54 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Oh, that makes sense I guess. | 19:54 |
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| dims | dhellmann: ack | 20:00 |
| * dims points bnemec to the same url :) | 20:00 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo.log: Use oslo.utils and oslo.serialization https://review.openstack.org/124172 | 20:13 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann_: ahahaha | 22:06 |
| lifeless | dhellmann_: system site packages doesn't work today | 22:06 |
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| dhellmann_ | lifeless: meaning the setuptools namespace package stuff doesn't work for 2 site-packages directories? | 22:10 |
| lifeless | yeah, mailing the list - esec | 22:10 |
| dhellmann_ | lifeless: having that be a mixed case was where the libs were breaking down, but maybe the mixing didn't have to be across site-packages after all | 22:12 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann_: mail sent | 22:14 |
| lifeless | dhellmann_: it should be clearer | 22:15 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann_: thoughts? | 22:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed a change to openstack/oslo.vmware: VimExceptions need to support i18n objects https://review.openstack.org/122193 | 23:50 |
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