Wednesday, 2014-07-23

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gusdhellmann: re your mysqlconnector license question: afaict mysqlconnector is gpl2.00:21
gusYou mentioned "exceptions". Is there something more I'm missing to their license?00:22
gusOh right.  Confusing.00:26
gusThe download page says unconditionally that it is available under gpl2.00:26
gusThe COPYING file says "there are special exceptions to GPL ... in file EXCEPTIONS-CLIENT" .. and there's no EXCEPTIONS-CLIENT file.00:27
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Revamp the symbol lookup mechanism  https://review.openstack.org/10857201:50
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Revamp the symbol lookup mechanism  https://review.openstack.org/10857201:53
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Revamp the symbol lookup mechanism  https://review.openstack.org/10857202:10
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openstackgerritArnaud Legendre proposed a change to openstack/oslo.vmware: Port the Datastore object and a few ds utilities  https://review.openstack.org/10527402:57
openstackgerritArnaud Legendre proposed a change to openstack/oslo.vmware: Port the Datastore object and a few ds utilities  https://review.openstack.org/10527403:01
openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/oslo.config: Fix the return of ConfigOpts's __call__ method  https://review.openstack.org/10350603:05
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: README.rst: Avoid using non-ascii character  https://review.openstack.org/10888103:16
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openstackgerritBrad Topol proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: Fix typo comments is pycadf  https://review.openstack.org/10888905:02
openstackgerritBrad Topol proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: Fix typo comments  https://review.openstack.org/10888905:04
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/oslo.i18n: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/10693806:05
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Revamp the symbol lookup mechanism  https://review.openstack.org/10857206:46
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Translate the engine runner into a well defined state-machine  https://review.openstack.org/10653508:03
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Add existing types to generated documentation  https://review.openstack.org/10693008:05
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Ensure state machine can be frozen  https://review.openstack.org/10747908:09
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Start shift to symbol nomenclature  https://review.openstack.org/10329608:15
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Better handle the tree freeze method  https://review.openstack.org/10748108:26
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Alexei_987how can one submit a bug in API description docs?09:36
silehtAlexei_987, do you means api.openstack.org ?09:41
Alexei_987https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/Messaging#Transport_Driver_API09:41
Alexei_987sileht: Hi09:41
Alexei_987sileht: problem I see is that it's not specified explicitly when actuall connection is opened09:41
Alexei_987sileht: I've made a change in rabbit driver to provide heartbeat support and it breaks cinder09:42
Alexei_987sileht: cause when cinder it trying to do db_sync it creates Transport instance and driver instance09:42
Alexei_987for rpc09:43
Alexei_987and it fails cause rabbit is not available09:43
Alexei_987sileht: so I wonder what should be fixed cinder or oslo.messaging09:43
Alexei_987sileht: cause it's not clear when it's safe to assume that you can open a connection to rabbit09:44
Alexei_987sileht: what do you think? ^09:44
silehtAlexei_987, I guess once you create a transport you may have a connection establish (may, because can depends of the driver impl), so for me If cinder create a transport do a db_sync, this is a cinder issue09:45
Alexei_987sileht: cool thanks :) I'm afraid that it can be not only in cinder so have to double check all services09:45
silehtAlexei_987, I guess cinder.rpc.init shouldn't be called when the db_sync cli command is used09:47
Alexei_987sileht: it's called cause all commands are loaded and not only db_sync09:47
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Alexei_987sileht:  https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/bin/cinder-manage#L25409:47
Alexei_987sileht: anyway thanks for your help09:48
silehtAlexei_987, welcome09:49
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Fix error in example of an RPC server  https://review.openstack.org/10841010:15
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openstackgerritAlex Frolov proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Transfer class LazyPluggable from nova to oslo-incubator  https://review.openstack.org/10737310:52
openstackgerritYuriy Taraday proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Switch to using SysV semaphores to allow safe process termination  https://review.openstack.org/10895410:58
YorikSarharlowja, dims: Please take a look at ^10:58
dstaneki think this needs to be abandoned, but i don't have the power - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96637/11:24
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openstackgerritOleksii Chuprykov proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Remove sqla_07 from tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/10760411:47
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dimsYorikSar, weird failures from all jobs?11:56
YorikSardims: sysv_ipc is not in global-requirements...12:02
YorikSardims: But otherwise this seems to work.12:03
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dhellmanngus: someone mentioned a FOSS exception, but I don't know the terms. There are questions about whether we can/should use GPL libraries, so I want to make sure we address the issue directly in the spec.13:22
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dhellmanndstanek: would we want to backport that for projects not yet using oslo.db?13:24
dstanekdhellmann: ?13:25
dhellmanndstanek: sorry, catching up on scrollback: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96637/13:25
amrithdhellmann, any chance we could chat about  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108216/ and  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108215/13:26
dstanekdhellmann: ah13:26
dstanekdhellmann: i would think not because nothing really runs on Python 3 yet. but even if we wanted to backport it would be another review proposed against a branch13:27
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dhellmanndstanek: the master branch of the incubator is the "stable/juno" branch for projects that haven't moved to oslo.db, so backports go oslo.db -> incubator/master -> incubator/stable/icehouse -> etc.13:31
dstanekdhellmann: ah, that's a good point. is it likely that a project will be supported in Python 3 before switching to oslo.db?13:32
dhellmannamrith: sure13:32
dhellmanndstanek: no, but is that change really only needed for python 3?13:32
amrithdhellmann, in your review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108216/ the rationale for the -1 (if i understand correctly) is that the exception logging information could expose sensitive stuff13:33
amrithI intended to fix that in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10821513:33
amrithmaybe I erred in making this two patch sets13:34
dhellmannamrith: ok, that part is fine, but the exception should still not be logging itself13:34
amrithI WILL NOT submit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108216/ without https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108215/13:34
amrithso if that's a starting point, let's address the issue of whether an exception handler should be logging at all13:34
dhellmannit appears that exception is already being logged elsewhere13:34
amrithright now, it does.13:34
amrithyou write, "it appears that exception is already being logged elsewhere". do you mean in the caller to execute() or somewhere in execute()13:35
dstanekdhellmann: according to the bug it's for Python3. the commit message seems to indicate maybe there is more13:35
dstanekdhellmann: but .message is the same as .args[0] if only one object is passed into the exception's init - which i think is the case13:36
dhellmanndstanek: ok, let's see if we can find the author and have them address the status before we abandon it for them (less rude that way)13:36
dhellmannamrith: ok, the log call I was looking at didn't include the debug info for the command, so if you move the new LOG.debug() call to around line 213 that would make me happy13:37
dhellmannamrith: instantiating an exception object should not have the side-effect of adding to the logs13:37
* amrith looks13:37
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dstanekdhellmann: that's fine. i only asked in there because i asked in the review over 3 weeks ago and haven't gotten a response13:38
dstaneks/there/here/13:38
dhellmanndstanek: sure, we get drive-bys a lot, so the author may have been distracted by internal work or something13:38
amrithdhellmann, if you could take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108215/ I think you'll see the other part of what I'm proposing. Yes, the line at 213 is being changed. I have proposed that it log the sanitized_cmd but I am OK removing that and just saying retrying without the command itself. Would that pass muster?13:40
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dhellmannamrith: I had 2 problems. One was that the log output wasn't sanitized. You're addressing that in 108215. The other was that the exception was logging itself. That needs to be addressed in 108216, or you could go ahead and address them both together (since we don't want the logging without the sanitizing).13:44
openstackgerritVlad Okhrimenko proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Create class TestInnoDB  https://review.openstack.org/10899413:44
dhellmannamrith: but you should not log inside the constructor for the exception object13:44
dhellmannamrith: make sense?13:45
dhellmanndstanek: I sent an email to the author to see where things stand13:45
* amrith looks13:45
dstanekdhellmann: great thanks!13:45
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jecareydhellmann: For LOG.debug("blah %s", exc) was the direction to use LOG.debug(u"blah %s", exc) or to six.text_type(exc)?13:48
dhellmannjecarey: u'blah: %s' if you have more of a message, six.text_type(exc) if there is no extra message wrapper13:50
jecareydhellmann: I'm being dense.   What do you mean by "extra message wrapper"?13:52
amrithdhellmann, I will make the change you propose and not log in the constructor for the exception object; instead move the logging to around where execute() creates the ProcessExecutionError object. I will also clean up the logging around 213. Thanks.13:54
dhellmannjecarey: actually, let me retract that anyway. if all you want to log is the exception text, pass the exception object directly as LOG.debug(exc) but if you want to say something more than what the exception is going to say (like why there is an exception being logged) you would use LOG.debug(u'blah %s', exc)13:56
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/oslo-specs: Switch from MySQLdb to MySQL Connector  https://review.openstack.org/10835513:56
dhellmannamrith: please also look at how the logging is already being done there -- maybe you can just add the details you want to the existing log call so we don't have retries logged on every failure13:56
jecareydhellmann: so the nasty question ... should *all* LOG.debug used u'text %s' or only those that get unicode replacement text?13:56
amrithdhellmann, wilco13:57
dhellmannjecarey: you need to assume unicode everywhere, so it's better to fix them all up13:57
jecareydhellmann: OK.  I was hoping you wouldn't say that ... 177 files to change :(13:58
jecareydhellmann: though easier than having to look at each one13:58
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/oslo-specs: Switch from MySQLdb to MySQL Connector  https://review.openstack.org/10835513:58
dhellmannjecarey: you *could* try to figure out for each call whether there's likely to be any unicode data, but...13:59
jecareydhellmann: True ... that's also very difficult to explain to anyone updating code.14:01
dhellmannjecarey: right14:01
jecareydhellmann: Thanks ... I'll go change them.   Does this need a hacking check?14:01
dhellmannjecarey: it's tricky to do that, because sometimes the messages are created in variables rather than string literals, but I wouldn't be opposed to having one14:03
jecareydhellmann: Good point ... let me fix them and then I'll look at doing that.14:04
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jecareydhellmann: thanks for the help14:05
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dhellmannjecarey: any time!14:15
openstackgerritBrad Topol proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: Fixed a grammatical error in contributing doc  https://review.openstack.org/10900114:15
openstackgerritBrad Topol proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: Fix a grammatical error in contributing doc  https://review.openstack.org/10900114:16
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dimsHi jogo, will you have cycles to help with oslo.vmware+nova integration? (there are 2 reviews up)14:17
dimsdhellmann, oslo.serialization infra review is up - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108861/14:19
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viktorsdhellmann: hi14:47
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dhellmanndims: ack15:01
dhellmannviktors: hi15:01
viktorsdhellmann: today we with rpodolyaka found, that devstack tempest jobs use oslo.* libraries from github master, not from pypi15:02
viktorsdhellmann: but unittests on gates uses pypi versions15:03
viktorsdhellmann: is it correct?15:03
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo.db: Make MySQL regexes generic across MySQL drivers  https://review.openstack.org/10692815:06
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo.db: Add host argument to get_connect_string()  https://review.openstack.org/10672115:06
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dhellmannviktors: devstack should be pulling from git.openstack.org15:18
viktorsdhellmann: maybe from git.openstack.org, but from master15:21
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viktorsdhellmann: I'm a bit confused, because we run uniitest and gates with the different versions of oslo.* libraries15:22
dhellmannviktors: I'm not sure which of those things you think is wrong? the integration tests use master, but the unit tests use packages, and that's correct. I have a review up to add unit test jobs that work with master https://review.openstack.org/85487 as part of the bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/enhance-cross-test-gate-job15:22
viktorsdhellmann: ok, got it15:24
viktorsdhellmann: one more question15:26
viktorsdhellmann: recently we closed the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/121434115:26
dhellmannviktors: ok15:26
viktorsdhellmann: so now all sqla.session methods are wrapped15:26
viktorsdhellmann: but we found, that some projects waiting for un-wrapped sqla exception15:27
dhellmannviktors: these are the sorts of issues that we need to look for before we make API changes like that15:28
viktorsdhellmann: so should we fix these projects, before we cut a new release15:28
viktors&15:28
viktors?15:28
dhellmannviktors: yes15:28
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dhellmannviktors: you should probably update the other projects to accept either type of exception, so it doesn't matter which version of oslo.db someone might have15:29
viktorsdhellmann: something like this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108943/ ?15:30
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viktorsdhellmann: we were pretty  sure, that this change will not affect oslo.db API :(15:31
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dhellmannviktors: well, it changed the types of exception the library raised, right?15:36
dhellmannviktors: yes, that change looks good15:36
viktorsdhellmann: yes, it wraps sqla exceptions and re-raise (wraps) them as oslo.db exceptions. We supposed, that there is no usage of the raw sqla exceptions in projects15:38
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viktorsdhellmann: this affects ironic and keystone15:38
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dhellmannviktors: right, we have to be careful about assumptions like that :-)15:39
viktors:)15:39
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viktorsdhellmann: in case of ironic - the only way to catch it with tests is - to run ironic's unittests on each oslo.db commit15:40
viktorsdhellmann: I have a doubt, that this is a suitable way15:41
dhellmannviktors: yep, that's what my change linked above will do15:41
dhellmannno, it's exactly what we need to do15:41
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viktorsdhellmann: oh, it's will be great. My doubt was -  this will require a lot of resources for testing.15:42
dhellmannviktors: yeah, it will, but I think we found a compromise way to reduce the load a bit15:43
viktorsdhellmann: cool15:43
dhellmannviktors: it will mean a lot of jobs run for changes to oslo.db, as new projects are set up as users of the library15:43
* viktors went to read the spec :)15:44
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: Do not depend on endpoint id existing in the service catalog  https://review.openstack.org/10906018:12
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viktorszzzeek: hi!18:18
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zzzeekhey18:23
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Fix error in example of an RPC server  https://review.openstack.org/10841018:26
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: Enable PEP8 checks E128, E251 and E265  https://review.openstack.org/10906718:27
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dimsdhellmann, have you touched the stackalytics data before? i can see they have just oslo-incubator and oslo.config and even those seem to be dated - https://github.com/stackforge/stackalytics/blob/master/etc/default_data.json#L779218:44
dhellmanndims: no, I haven't messed with that (I'm not even sure I realized it was on stackforge)18:45
dimsy i went looking for it :)18:45
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Enable check for E226  https://review.openstack.org/10827818:51
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Fix cache deletion within policy enforcer  https://review.openstack.org/10907618:54
noelbkAlexei_987: sorry for the bonehead question:  I'd like to make a unit test that confirms that msg.reply() eventually calls exchange_declare(passive=True).  Do you know how to do that with something like mock?18:57
Alexei_987noelbk: yes you have to replace object that is called with mock and call it the same way: mock.exchange_declare(passive=True) mox.ReplayAll()18:59
Alexei_987noelbk: something like that. You can find example of mock usage in existing tests. something like tests/test_transport.py19:00
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Enable PEP8 check E241  https://review.openstack.org/10907719:00
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Enable PEP8 check E265  https://review.openstack.org/10907919:05
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Enable PEP8 check E714  https://review.openstack.org/10908019:07
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Translate the engine runner into a well defined state-machine  https://review.openstack.org/10653519:21
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Ensure state machine can be frozen  https://review.openstack.org/10747919:25
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Add existing types to generated documentation  https://review.openstack.org/10693019:33
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo.utils: Make the i18n integration module private  https://review.openstack.org/10909419:47
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo.utils: Add API docs and clean up other docs  https://review.openstack.org/10910120:06
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo.utils: Make return type from urlsplit private  https://review.openstack.org/10910820:22
dhellmanndims: a few oslo.utils cleanups before we do a release: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo.utils+is:open,n,z20:23
openstackgerritArnaud Legendre proposed a change to openstack/oslo.vmware: Port the Datastore and DatastorePath objects  https://review.openstack.org/10527420:30
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russellbdhellmann: ping ... just looking for an ACK to confirm that oslo and oslo.messaging are ready to have juno-2 closed out.  looks like they are20:37
dhellmannrussellb: yes, I think we're set20:38
russellbdhellmann: thanks!20:38
dhellmannrussellb: remind me, do we tag at this point or is this just a launchpad status update?20:38
russellbdhellmann: AIUI, we tag oslo-incubator only.  and close out the juno-2 milestone for both oslo and oslo.messaging in launchpad.20:39
russellbno tarballs for either20:39
dhellmannrussellb: ok, that sounds right20:39
russellbk :)20:39
dhellmannwe have tags on the libraries when we make releases, but only tag the incubator for milestones and then branch at the end of the cycle20:39
dhellmannjust wanted to make sure we weren't leaving out all of the other libs if we needed to tag now20:40
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dimsdhellmann, thanks, will keep an eye on them20:53
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openstackgerritAlexei Kornienko proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Should not send replies for cast messages  https://review.openstack.org/10914322:58
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harlowjaAlexei_987 nice, haha23:00
harlowja10x more23:00
Alexei_987harlowja: still lot's of room to optimize23:01
harlowjadef23:01
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Alexei_987harlowja: is there any chance that we'll release 1.3.1 version?23:04
Alexei_987harlowja: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1346253 this one is bothering me23:04
harlowjai'm not sure i can answer that one :-P23:05
harlowjaothers here might be able to23:05
Alexei_987harlowja: well opening a new connection for every message sent also seems stupid23:05
harlowjano disagreement from me23:05
Alexei_987harlowja: I get amazing performance of 50 calls/second on 1.3.023:05
harlowjathats webscale, lol23:06
Alexei_987I would expect to get more from rabbitmq23:06
harlowjaagreed :)23:06
harlowjafor something used in high speed trading and other things 50 calls/second won't cut it :-P23:06
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openstackgerritArnaud Legendre proposed a change to openstack/oslo.vmware: Port the Datastore and DatastorePath objects  https://review.openstack.org/10527423:36
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