Wednesday, 2014-05-21

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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Add a runtime module  https://review.openstack.org/9446101:47
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Make unspecified periodic spaced tasks run on default interval  https://review.openstack.org/9376702:58
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bogdandohi all07:02
bogdandoa Question related to Oslo  messaging07:03
bogdandoat the Openstack environment side (rabbitmq AMQP backend), If I issue "rabbitmqctl list_channels pid name connection transactional confirm" I can see all channels are neither in transactional nor confirm mode (noAck=true)07:05
bogdandowhat was the preconditions for such architecture?07:05
bogdandoaccording to the http://www.rabbitmq.com/ha.html channels not in the confirm mode could lose messages, if queue  master election occurs, right?..07:06
bogdandoso... bug or feature? :)07:06
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bogdandohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/132161507:22
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openstackgerritNataliia Uvarova proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Fix logging setup for Python3  https://review.openstack.org/9402807:46
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Fix update.py can't replace base name  https://review.openstack.org/8783209:11
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openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack-dev/oslo-cookiecutter: Use module_name instead of repo_name  https://review.openstack.org/9456209:33
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openstackgerritYuriy Taraday proposed a change to openstack/oslo-specs: Add rootwrap-daemon-mode blueprint  https://review.openstack.org/9461313:09
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dhellmanntherve: let me know if you have the answers you need about the config generator13:42
dhellmannmorganfainberg_Z: paste replacement? I don't remember talking about that. Maybe more context will trigger something?13:43
dhellmannharlowja: +2a13:44
dhellmannbknudson: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92617/13:45
bknudsondhellmann: aha!13:45
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Enforce unicode json output for jsonutils.load[s]()  https://review.openstack.org/9134413:54
ihrachyshkaviktors: may I ask you to revisit the patch for jsonutils? ^^13:58
ihrachyshkaviktors: my utf8-fu is as great as yours so I'm looking fwd to see your comments13:58
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viktorsihrachyshka: ok, will do, but a bit later14:06
ihrachyshkaviktors: tnx14:06
thervedhellmann, Hi, thanks for catching up :). I do have some questions if you're around14:06
ihrachyshkaoops... btw it's 's/is as great/is NOT as great/ above14:07
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Enforce unicode json output for jsonutils.load[s]()  https://review.openstack.org/9134414:20
dhellmanntherve: sure, what's up?14:21
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thervedhellmann, I'm trying to fix the problem in heat where options can be in several groups14:31
thervedhellmann, The entry point approach seems to work fine for that14:31
therveBut I'm having an issue with the shell script generator in oslo14:32
therveI specify the "library" with -l, but the files are added automatically anyway14:32
therveSo I get the options twice14:32
dhellmanntherve: how are you running the config generator?14:33
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thervedhellmann, tools/config/generate_sample.sh -l heat.common.config14:33
therveUltimately I'll change the rc files I think, but it doesn't make a different for now14:34
dhellmanntherve: ok, you're entering slightly uncharted territory, so you might need to change that wrapper script14:36
thervedhellmann, Cool, I'm fine with that14:36
dhellmannline 113 passes $FILES, try removing that part14:36
thervedhellmann, I thought about adding something like "EXCLUDED_FILES" in the rc file, and handle it in the wrapper script14:36
dhellmannor you could do that, too :-)14:37
therveOkay, I'll try that then if you're fine with it :)14:37
therveI don't think I want to remove FILES support completely as it's easier when there is no multiple options14:38
dhellmannultimately we may want an option that turns off the logic that builds the file list14:38
dhellmannbut yeah, in your case, ignoring only some files may make sense14:38
therveAlso I think exclusion can be useful for removing options from sslutils btw14:38
dhellmannI'm not sure what's easier from the developer's perspective, having to explicitly build each group as a lib or having to exclude the right files with each call14:38
therveGood question14:39
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thervedhellmann, Currently we have still code in the incubator that have options but don't provide entry points afaict14:40
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thervePresumably it changes with the release of oslo.db and all14:40
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therveBut I don't know about common.log for example14:41
dhellmannthat's a good point, the oslo options won't be exposed through entry points until they are in libraries14:43
dhellmann(that's what this feature was originally built for to begin with)14:43
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Allow file exclusion in config generator  https://review.openstack.org/9463914:56
therveHere's the patch ^^, hope my shell is not too horrible14:58
bnemecmriedem: haypo: FWIW, that reraise=False behavior was only added a little while ago.  I didn't think it would be useful at first, but then the logging thing came up so we added it.15:03
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dhellmanntherve: I'm not familiar with that syntax, but assuming it does what I think it looks like a good change15:07
dhellmanntherve: does OSLO_CONFIG_GENERATOR_EXCLUDED_FILES Need to have a default set higher up in the file? I'm not sure what style is used in that file15:08
thervedhellmann, It doesn't need to, no. Other variables don't seem to be defined.15:09
dhellmanntherve: ok, we may want to do that as a separate patch to make it more clear what can be done in the rc file15:09
thervedhellmann, At least for doc, you're right.15:10
dhellmannright15:10
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Document config generator variables  https://review.openstack.org/9464615:17
dhellmanntherve: nice, thanks!15:20
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* bnemec thinks bash and perl had a contest to see who could come up with the most arcane magic syntactic sugar15:53
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openstackgerritJames Page proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Enable heartbeating on rabbitmq connections  https://review.openstack.org/9465616:01
notmynamebnemec: `dd if=/dev/random of=new_feature.perl bs=16 count=1` seems like a perfect way to start building the BNF for new language features!16:03
bnemecnotmyname: Indeed :-)16:04
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: remove token from notifier middleware  https://review.openstack.org/9466616:26
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/9325416:29
thervebnemec, How do you run the shell wrapper script?16:33
therveFor config generation16:34
bnemectherve: I actually didn't run the whole thing, I was just playing around with the bash syntax and noticed that behavior.  It looks like it would apply to the full script too though.16:35
bnemecBut maybe I'm wrong?16:35
thervebnemec, No, it's just that paths tend to be relative if you run it the usual way16:35
therveAnd I wanted to try for real, it's not like we have unit tests for that :)16:37
bnemectherve: No, we don't.  We probably should though. :-)16:37
thervebnemec, So AFAICT it works because we always make sure that BASEDIR is absolute16:39
therveSo you're not supposed to end up with ../oslo-incubator in your path16:39
bnemectherve: Right, but if I change the find to use an absolute path, then I just get home/bnemec/source/oslo-incubator/ instead16:41
bnemectherve: FWIW, the script I'm using to test is: http://paste.openstack.org/show/81073/16:42
thervebnemec, Right so that's because you don't have BASEDIRESC16:43
bnemectherve: Oh, I see.  That explains why I was losing the leading / on the absolute paths. :-)16:44
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thervebnemec, I agree it's a bit fragile though16:44
dhellmannwelcome, wendar!16:44
wendarthanks!16:44
bnemectherve: Yeah, it should be fine though.  +A.16:48
thervebnemec, Thanks!16:48
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openstackgerritRoger Luethi proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Fix typos in docs  https://review.openstack.org/9467817:09
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openstackgerritSolly Ross proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Report: Add basic processes section  https://review.openstack.org/7879317:22
openstackgerritSolly Ross proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Report: Propagate view_type through collections  https://review.openstack.org/7879217:22
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openstackgerritJames Page proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Enable heartbeating on rabbitmq connections  https://review.openstack.org/9465621:02
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bnemecdhellmann: I copied you on my response to the logging exceptions thread because I think that raises an issue with our plan to use standard python logging instead of forcing everyone to use log.py.21:39
dhellmannbnemec: good point, lazy translation for logging exceptions will only work if there a Message instance is being used as the log format "string" (so it can handle the recursive translation)21:44
dhellmannbnemec: actually, what I said isn't quite true, we would just have to teach the LogFormatter about exception objects that can be translated21:46
bnemecdhellmann: Didn't we try doing it in the formatter, and that's too late to catch the conversion before python logging blows up?21:47
bnemecI could be wrong - that was a long time ago. :-)21:47
dhellmannbnemec: you might be right, I don't remember21:48
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dhellmannbnemec: in that case, though, using a Message as the first argument to the log method should let us work around the problem21:48
bnemecdhellmann: Did we have a spec for this?  We should probably make sure this behavior is checked before we go too far down the road.21:50
dhellmannbnemec: yeah, that's a good point21:50
dhellmannI haven't started writing up the spec for this blueprint, yet21:51
bnemecdhellmann: Okay, will try to remember this when we have a spec. :-)21:53
dhellmannbnemec: clarkb is fixing the oslo-specs-core permission issue, too21:54
bnemecdhellmann: Cool, thanks21:54
dhellmannoslo-core should now have +2 on the oslo-specs repo21:55
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-specs: Update template  https://review.openstack.org/9435921:56
dimsdhellmann, thanks!22:04
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Make unspecified periodic spaced tasks run on default interval  https://review.openstack.org/9376722:12
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Add a deprecation module  https://review.openstack.org/8705522:14
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morganfainbergdhellmann, i think it was you who i was talking to about paste not being py33 friendly23:43
morganfainbergdhellmann, might have been someone else *ponder*23:43
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