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| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: hi, I want to discuss your comment for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91344/ | 08:18 |
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| jd__ | dhellmann: any plan on a new stevedore? | 12:04 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: I replied to your comments | 12:28 |
| dhellmann | jd__: the doc build is broken right now, so I need to get that fixed before releasing | 12:30 |
| jd__ | k | 12:30 |
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| gcb | dhellmann: Do we need local hacking for oslo-incubator ? I submit a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87832/ to address your comments | 12:34 |
| dhellmann | gcb: I think in the mailing list thread we agreed the import check was a good idea; I'll put your patch on my review list. | 12:34 |
| dhellmann | gcb: I'm less sure about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92309/ | 12:35 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: tnx a lot, replied | 12:37 |
| gcb | dhellmann: I saw Ben added comments about that while reviewing code,so added there, I'm also not sure :) | 12:37 |
| gcb | dhellmann: I added comments about your bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/pep8-on-update | 12:38 |
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| dhellmann | gcb: I like your suggestion for implementing the test in that blueprint. Maybe use len(current_longest_name)+2 so we have a little room in case a longer name comes along? | 12:40 |
| gcb | dhellmann: ok ,another query about the update.py, I used patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76901/ and found a lot of oslo-incubator files should be removed from consuming projects. | 12:41 |
| dhellmann | removed? | 12:42 |
| gcb | dhellmann: the files copied from oslo-incubator but not used any more in consuming projects. but they are left there, became dead files | 12:43 |
| gcb | see my recently commit for other projects:https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22ChangBo+Guo%28gcb%29%22+status:open,n,z | 12:43 |
| gcb | dhellmann: so I think the patch for update.py https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76901/ has some value :) | 12:45 |
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| dhellmann | gcb: are you sure those files are not used at all? they aren't dependencies of other oslo modules? | 12:45 |
| gcb | dhellmann: I'm sure , I checked every file , the removing patches passed Jenkins tests , and that prove they are not used by others. | 12:47 |
| dims | good morning. sorry i don't have scroll back, which files? | 12:47 |
| dhellmann | gcb: you may have more faith in the test coverage than I do :-) | 12:48 |
| dhellmann | dims: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22ChangBo+Guo%28gcb%29%22+status:open,n,z | 12:48 |
| dhellmann | dims: gcb is auditing which files projects are using vs. which they are syncing from the incubator | 12:48 |
| dhellmann | that would be quite useful to know, especially if it helps make future syncs easier | 12:48 |
| dims | ah very cool | 12:49 |
| dims | agree | 12:49 |
| dhellmann | I'm just worried that we not jump the gun on removing things | 12:49 |
| dims | true | 12:49 |
| gcb | btw, keystone core reviewers have been discussing "should use WARNNING or INFO " in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91825/. I'd like to get more comments :) | 12:52 |
| gcb | agree, we should be careful when removing something. | 12:53 |
| dhellmann | gcb: it is not a mistake for keystone to not list something in openstack-common.conf if they are not using it directly. that's why we added dependency tracking in the first place, to make it easier to get the sync to work right. | 12:57 |
| gcb | agree | 12:59 |
| dhellmann | gcb: so we don't need to update their conf files to include modules they aren't using, but that are needed for other modules they are using | 13:00 |
| dims | dhellmann, gcb, last i checked there were some files in nova which were basically un-syncable. should they be moved out from openstack/common/ tree? | 13:02 |
| gcb | dhellmann: yes, I followed the rule as you mentioned in my patches for consuming projects. | 13:03 |
| dhellmann | dims: because nova modified their copies? | 13:04 |
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| dhellmann | gcb: in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91825/ I see a few new modules being added with comments "a dependency of oslo" -- are those used directly by keystone code? | 13:05 |
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| gcb | They are not used by keystone directly, they are used by other oslo-incubators . We have decide not add them in that review | 13:08 |
| gcb | will offline now , will be back an hour later. | 13:10 |
| dhellmann | gcb: ok | 13:10 |
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| dims | dhellmann, i think it was because oslo changes did not get sync'ed for a while and it became harder to sync | 13:39 |
| dhellmann | dims: ok, that's less troublesome, as long as they are just old versions of what we have in the incubatoro | 13:39 |
| dhellmann | incubatoro? | 13:40 |
| dhellmann | dims: I think I'd rather we try to get them up to date, or just wait for those modules to graduate and move to the libraries -- I'm not sure which is going to be easier for nova to digest | 13:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Add transport reconnection retries https://review.openstack.org/75365 | 13:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Transport reconnection retries for notification https://review.openstack.org/92373 | 13:43 |
| dims | dhellmann, see example - nova/nova/openstack/common/policy.py oslo-incubator/openstack/common/policy.py | 13:44 |
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| dhellmann | dims: that diff is a mess, I'll have to study it more closely later. Do you think that's a case where we should just wait for graduation? | 13:47 |
| dims | dhellmann, yep | 13:48 |
| dhellmann | dims: yeah, if it's going to be painful, let's only do it once :-) | 13:49 |
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| dims | +1 :) | 13:52 |
| gcb | +1 | 13:57 |
| dims | dhellmann, you use a mac? | 14:02 |
| dhellmann | dims: yes | 14:02 |
| dhellmann | dims: although I do all my openstack dev work on a linux server | 14:03 |
| dims | dhellmann, do you use brew or macports or fink or something else? | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | homebrew | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | there's even a fancy new gui for it, let me find that link | 14:03 |
| dims | cool. thanks! | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | dims: https://www.cakebrew.com/ | 14:03 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: yeah, macosx is not a well tested env even to run unit tests | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: yeah, I don't even bother, too many tools depend on linux behaviors | 14:04 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: yeah, and even 'tox' fails there :) | 14:04 |
| dims | ihrachyshka, there was a patch for fox's _config.py from clarkb that worked for me | 14:05 |
| dims | s/fox/tox/ | 14:05 |
| ihrachyshka | dims: same as dhellmann, I don't really care | 14:05 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: I use tox for other projects on OS X all the time | 14:05 |
| ihrachyshka | dims: first I have a fedora in a parallels desktop, then I have plenty of servers and workstations in our lab and under my table :) | 14:06 |
| dhellmann | most of the rest of the work I do runs natively | 14:06 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: maybe some issues with particular tox configurations | 14:06 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: it worked for some openstack projects for me, but not for neutron | 14:06 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: could be | 14:06 |
| dims | ihrachyshka, true | 14:06 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: back to that json utf8 'hardcoded encoding' issue. aren't we expanding requirements from what user could expect from json implementation by enforcing utf-8 file source? | 14:08 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: I'm not sure I understand the question. | 14:11 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: this is re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91344/7/openstack/common/jsonutils.py | 14:11 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: basically, my concern with requiring unicode source is that original, stdlib json module does not enforce it | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: right. I'm not saying we should require utf-8. I'm saying your change makes that requirement. | 14:12 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: no, it only requires that input is utf-8 compatible, right? which is the same thing stdlib requires. | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: and what if fp is already returning unicode? | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | that's also supported by the stdlib, right? | 14:13 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: stdlib json.load() allows file objects that emit bytes | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | ah, ok, I thought it handled unicode | 14:14 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: you can apply get reader recursively, it works | 14:16 |
| dhellmann | recursively? | 14:16 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: like codecs.getreader('utf-8')(codecs.getreader('utf-8')(fp))(fp) | 14:17 |
| ihrachyshka | hem, sorry, broken brackets :) | 14:18 |
| ihrachyshka | codecs.getreader('utf-8')(codecs.getreader('utf-8')(fp)) | 14:18 |
| ihrachyshka | like that | 14:18 |
| ihrachyshka | from json.load() stdlib description: 'If the contents of fp are encoded with an ASCII based encoding other than UTF-8 (e.g. latin-1), then an appropriate encoding name must be specified.' | 14:18 |
| ihrachyshka | so if encoding is not passed, it must be utf-8 | 14:18 |
| ihrachyshka | since we don't have this argument, we may assume everyone passes utf-8 for us | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure that wrapping 2 readers around each other like that really does work properly | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | it might only work for utf-8 | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | and even then, only the ascii subset | 14:19 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: let me do some tests | 14:19 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: I don't think that just because we don't support specifying an encoding we can assume everyone is passing us a utf-8 stream -- it might just be broken now | 14:20 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: indeed, only ascii subset is handled properly then | 14:20 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: then it's broken on their side (they should have specify the encoding, and then they would see the issue and ask for new argument) :) | 14:21 |
| ekarlso | is o.version o.db rdy for consumption btw? | 14:21 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: right, so maybe the fix is to add that argument? :-) | 14:24 |
| dhellmann | ekarlso: oslo.version isn't being used by anything, afaict | 14:24 |
| dhellmann | ekarlso: and oslo.db is not yet ready for use -- we will announce it on the -dev mailing list when it is | 14:25 |
| ekarlso | dhellmann: | 14:25 |
| ekarlso | ok | 14:25 |
| dhellmann | ekarlso: you might want to keep an eye on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/GraduationStatus too | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | and as libs are graduated, we will add them to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo | 14:26 |
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| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: can we at least make this new argument with default value = 'utf-8'? | 14:38 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: if people pass smth incompatible, this will rightfully fail | 14:39 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: what is the default for the stdlib call? utf-8 or None? | 14:39 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: encoding=None | 14:43 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: that seems like a good default for us, too, then, no? | 14:44 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: as per JSONDecoder.__init__() inside json.decoder: | 14:45 |
| ihrachyshka | """``encoding`` determines the encoding used to interpret any ``str`` | 14:45 |
| ihrachyshka | objects decoded by this instance (utf-8 by default). It has no | 14:45 |
| ihrachyshka | effect when decoding ``unicode`` objects. | 14:45 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: like 'if encoding is None: fp = codecs.getreader('utf-8')(fp); ... | 14:46 |
| ihrachyshka | ? | 14:46 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: ok, I'm just confused, so I'm sorry. Maybe if you wrote up a blueprint explaining the arguments for different defaults that would help? | 14:46 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: nevermind, there's a bug here isn't there? | 14:48 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: I'm just going to need more time to think about it than I have at the moment. :-/ | 14:48 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: the bug was revealed by latest sync to glance, though there is no formal LP instance for this | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: are those details in https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1314129 somewhere? | 14:49 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: basically, glance uses .load() and it expects that result will contain unicode strings, otherwise it just throw exception :) | 14:49 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: I'll add more details in comments now | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: ok, thanks | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: I'll try to take a look tomorrow | 14:50 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: several issues were revealed by actual sync, so this utf8 related fixes are coming from that need. | 14:50 |
| ihrachyshka | good, moving on for now | 14:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Enforce unicode json output for jsonutils.load[s]() https://review.openstack.org/91344 | 15:25 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann: I've updated the bug with a comment + uploaded a fresh patch for review to add encoding argument as discussed, plus added a test case to check that the new argument works. so once you get time for this, you can check all that. cheers. | 15:26 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: great, thanks for providing those details | 15:27 |
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| dims | dhellmann, adding a new parameter to the constructor will break existing stuff right? what's the best way to do this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91573/3/oslo/vmware/api.py,unified | 15:41 |
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| dhellmann | dims: ugly as it is, the best way is to add the new port argument later in the argument list where you can specify a default value -- at the end is the most compatible place, since that allows for all existing args to be used positionally | 16:32 |
| dhellmann | dims: could that class take a URL as arg? | 16:33 |
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| devoid | hi guys, I was wondering what you thought of this feature request (obviously I just submitted it so it's fine for you to tell me to go away and be patient) https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1316711 | 18:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/taskflow: Add a new wait() method that waits for jobs to arrive https://review.openstack.org/91496 | 19:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Update pointer to HACKING.rst in the readme https://review.openstack.org/92444 | 19:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Add link to readme at bottom of docs.openstack.org/developer/hacking/ https://review.openstack.org/92445 | 19:26 |
| dhellmann | devoid: you might be interested in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/service-validation | 19:33 |
| devoid | dhellmann, that looks pretty ambitious to me. | 19:41 |
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| morganfainberg | gcb, dhellmann, i would prefer an INFO vs a WARN (there isn't anything to fix) if we didn't list something in the openstack-common.conf but it's sync'd in due to dependency. | 20:59 |
| morganfainberg | don't mind communication, just don't see it as an error (i know, bit of a delayed response) | 20:59 |
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