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| ttx | #startmeeting large_scale_sig | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Jan 5 15:00:16 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'large_scale_sig' | 15:00 |
| ttx | #topic Rollcall | 15:00 |
| ttx | Who is here for the Large Scale SIG meeting? | 15:00 |
| ttx | pinging amorin | 15:01 |
| ttx | I don't see any other regular in the nicklist | 15:01 |
| belmoreira | hello | 15:02 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:02 |
| ttx | Happy new year! | 15:03 |
| belmoreira | Happy New Year for you too | 15:03 |
| ttx | gene is not on | 15:03 |
| ttx | amorin is distracted, but on channel | 15:03 |
| belmoreira | ttx do we have meeting? | 15:03 |
| ttx | yes, but that's just the two of us for now | 15:03 |
| ttx | We can have a quick one, i need your eyes on a few things | 15:04 |
| ttx | Our agenda for today is at: | 15:04 |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-meeting | 15:04 |
| ttx | #topic 2022 plans | 15:04 |
| ttx | It's the new year no it's time to reflect on our 2021 activity and make rough plans for 2022 | 15:04 |
| ttx | Re: 2021 activity, we need to come up with a short entry to include in the Foundation annual report, due next week... | 15:04 |
| ttx | I drafted the following: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/lss-annual-report-2022 | 15:04 |
| ttx | belmoreira: let me know if it works for you, feel free to edit or add comments. | 15:05 |
| ttx | Re: 2022 plans, we can discuss a bit | 15:05 |
| ttx | My personal take is that we should continue participating to OpenInfra Live and aim at the Berlin Summit to promote (and recruit for) the SIG | 15:05 |
| ttx | .. and then correct course | 15:05 |
| ttx | belmoreira: thoughts? | 15:06 |
| belmoreira | I was reading it. Looks good to me | 15:06 |
| ttx | we could also CFP to Berlin, a large scale SIG presentation | 15:07 |
| ttx | "Large Scale SIG: Helping operators running OpenStack at very large scale" or something | 15:07 |
| belmoreira | That's cool. But we can try something different... | 15:08 |
| ttx | very open to ideas | 15:08 |
| amorin | hello! | 15:09 |
| belmoreira | How about have like an openinfra live show but "live" | 15:09 |
| amorin | sorry I am late | 15:09 |
| ttx | belmoreira: we could do that within the Forum maybe | 15:09 |
| ttx | or as a panel presentation | 15:09 |
| belmoreira | not a presentation, but like a panel and where the audience can ask questions during the "show" | 15:09 |
| ttx | hah, more like a "Ask the Large Scale SIG"? | 15:10 |
| ttx | I like that | 15:10 |
| ttx | If we can get critical mass in a panel | 15:10 |
| belmoreira | maybe... I was thinking like having a topic (like we have for the show) and then do it "live" | 15:10 |
| ttx | hmm ok | 15:11 |
| ttx | let's think a bit more about it between meetings, we have a bit of time to CFP | 15:11 |
| belmoreira | openinfra live. but really "live" :) | 15:11 |
| ttx | haha | 15:11 |
| belmoreira | the topic would need to be something popular, like something related with upgrades... to engage the audience | 15:12 |
| ttx | ok, I think that's a rough first-half 2022 plan right there | 15:12 |
| ttx | Any other ideas before we switch to programming our next OILive episode? | 15:13 |
| ttx | #topic Date and theme for a future OpenInfra Live episode | 15:14 |
| belmoreira | actually I have :) | 15:14 |
| ttx | ah too late | 15:14 |
| ttx | :) | 15:14 |
| ttx | go ahead | 15:14 |
| ttx | #undo | 15:14 |
| opendevmeet | Removing item from minutes: #topic Date and theme for a future OpenInfra Live episode | 15:14 |
| belmoreira | for the openinfra live show we always have a different topic... and invite different people | 15:15 |
| ttx | we try, at least | 15:15 |
| belmoreira | another experience could be to have a episode series... I was thinking to have like the same hosts that are joined by one different operator every episode. And then is like an interview | 15:16 |
| belmoreira | something like: "learn from the large scale operators" series | 15:17 |
| belmoreira | just thinking how we can keep the shoes fresh and a little bit different | 15:17 |
| ttx | ok.. s more of a regular hosts + special guest thing? | 15:17 |
| belmoreira | yes | 15:18 |
| ttx | That would facilitate programming, for sure | 15:18 |
| ttx | also not a big deal if one of the "regulars" misses one | 15:18 |
| ttx | How many hosts do you think would work? | 15:19 |
| belmoreira | honestly I'm thinking more in the pod cast style of a show, than the presentation and some questions between 4, 5 people like we have been doing | 15:19 |
| ttx | One is too little, 4 is too much | 15:19 |
| ttx | or maybe not) | 15:20 |
| belmoreira | not convinced that 1 is too little... thinking, learn from bloomberg infrastructure, learn from OVH, ... | 15:20 |
| belmoreira | it can be very interesting | 15:20 |
| ttx | No I mean, for the regulars | 15:20 |
| ttx | I agree single guest per episode is a great idea | 15:20 |
| ttx | a lot easier to manage | 15:21 |
| belmoreira | but we would need more schedule time in the openInfra show | 15:21 |
| ttx | My question was more: how many "regular hosts" should there be | 15:21 |
| belmoreira | ohh... | 15:21 |
| belmoreira | I agree... 1 is too little :) | 15:22 |
| ttx | More than one to get a variety of reactions, but not too many since that may become intimidating | 15:22 |
| belmoreira | maybe 2 and 3, to keep the conversation flowing | 15:22 |
| belmoreira | and also contribute with their examples | 15:22 |
| ttx | Also trying to see ok, I like that | 15:22 |
| ttx | i mean, OK I like that | 15:22 |
| ttx | let's discuss next episode topic and see if it's too early to do that then | 15:23 |
| ttx | #topic Date and theme for a future OpenInfra Live episode | 15:23 |
| ttx | The cadence on this start of year for openInfra Live is "every two weeks" | 15:23 |
| ttx | and I'd like to get back to the OILive crew with our next date confirmed | 15:23 |
| ttx | I have two proposed slots: Feb 3 and Feb 17 | 15:23 |
| ttx | On Feb 3 I'll be traveling. I can be around during the show but will likely have little time to coordinate ahead of the show | 15:24 |
| ttx | So that date works if we have a pretty simple topic, a good idea of who we would invite, etc. | 15:24 |
| ttx | If we don't really have a slam-dunk topic or it's more complicated, I'd suggest we pick Feb 17, but that's a bit late | 15:24 |
| belmoreira | 17 Feb is safer | 15:25 |
| ttx | definitely gives us more time, and I don't have a great suggestion | 15:25 |
| ttx | Feb 17 we could try to roll out the new format | 15:25 |
| ttx | gives us plenty of time to find our guest and sign up the hosts | 15:26 |
| ttx | belmoreira, amorin: do you think that's doable (roll out Belmiro's idea) for Feb 17 | 15:27 |
| amorin | hum, | 15:27 |
| amorin | It's going to be during french holidays (at least part of france) | 15:27 |
| amorin | on my side, I am not yet sure if I will be availalbe at this date | 15:28 |
| ttx | Alternatively... we could just say we do the new format on Feb 3 and invite... Arnaud on the first episode | 15:29 |
| belmoreira | hum... good point, I wasn't considering school holidays | 15:30 |
| ttx | if it's all show regulars I'm less stressed out by the idea of running it while on the road | 15:30 |
| amorin | feb 3 is ok for me | 15:30 |
| ttx | amorin: could you get a presentation of what your deployment looks like by then, though? belmiro's suggested format starts with a presentation from the guest to seed the conversation | 15:31 |
| belmoreira | yes, 17 Feb doesn't work for me (just checked the school holidays) | 15:32 |
| ttx | Ok so we should try to make Feb 3 work | 15:32 |
| amorin | yes I can do that | 15:32 |
| amorin | architecture presentation ? | 15:32 |
| amorin | general overview of our deployment? | 15:33 |
| amorin | like, scale, ops, etc? | 15:33 |
| belmoreira | hum... not sure about the presentation | 15:33 |
| belmoreira | do you really think is necessary? | 15:33 |
| ttx | ah. I misread your earlier comment | 15:33 |
| amorin | maybe at least some numbers / architecutr | 15:34 |
| ttx | No I don;t think it is necessary... just thought that would help seed the discussion | 15:34 |
| belmoreira | (defenetely not a fan of presentations) | 15:34 |
| amorin | to let the audiance know what we are talking about | 15:34 |
| amorin | it could be done in 1 slide :) | 15:34 |
| amorin | even by talking | 15:34 |
| belmoreira | if at the begining we have an open question like "tell me about OVH?" | 15:34 |
| ttx | belmoreira: if you think the hosts can pull off a full hour of Q&A with a single guest, let's do it | 15:35 |
| belmoreira | I guess we have material for all the episode :) | 15:35 |
| amorin | "tell me about ovh" --> that could work | 15:35 |
| amorin | we should prepare the questions , to make sure I have proper answers :) | 15:35 |
| ttx | re: hosts i would pick among regulars -- ideally Belmiro would always be there as an anchor, and then we could add genekuo, mnaser, amorin... based on availability | 15:36 |
| belmoreira | for sure we need to "sink" before to not go though an unwanted path | 15:36 |
| ttx | belmoreira: my concern is that without any visual aid it can be a bit dry for the least operational part of the audience | 15:36 |
| ttx | but I can see how that can make tings worse too | 15:37 |
| ttx | especially with... some guests | 15:37 |
| ttx | last thing we want is some promo slides that go in the way of our "ops" tonme | 15:37 |
| ttx | tone | 15:37 |
| belmoreira | this is experimentation... if it doesn't work we can always change it | 15:37 |
| ttx | I'm up for trying conversational style | 15:38 |
| ttx | OK so, rough plan: let's book Feb 3, with a plan to do OVHCloud special. We need a title that captures the new format, like "Ops deep dive" or "Ask Ops Anything" | 15:40 |
| ttx | I'll reach out to gene and mnaser to check for availability to be co-hosts on this one | 15:40 |
| amorin | ok | 15:40 |
| belmoreira | I like the "Ops deep dive" | 15:40 |
| belmoreira | with xxx | 15:40 |
| ttx | To add a bit of diversity I might also ask Marie if she would be interested, as the only female Large Scale SIG regular attendant | 15:41 |
| ttx | (in being a co-host) | 15:42 |
| ttx | and we can reconvene in two weeks to finalize this plan | 15:42 |
| ttx | does that work? | 15:42 |
| amorin | yes | 15:42 |
| belmoreira | looks good | 15:42 |
| amorin | I might not be avaialble in 2 weeks | 15:42 |
| amorin | but I'll catch the records later | 15:42 |
| ttx | (I like the no-presentation, only regular attendees" option for Feb 3, since that will be pretty simple to pull off) | 15:43 |
| amorin | I'll do my best | 15:43 |
| ttx | we can sync by email between teh three of us. Just officialize the plan during the meeting | 15:43 |
| ttx | ok, let's wrap this meeting | 15:44 |
| ttx | #topic Large Scale Journey updates | 15:44 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Large_Scale_SIG | 15:44 |
| ttx | I don;t think we have anything to report on that front | 15:44 |
| belmoreira | pass | 15:44 |
| ttx | I don't want to bury it though, and use it as the permanent record of our slow progress | 15:44 |
| ttx | #topic Next meeting | 15:44 |
| ttx | #info Jan 19 - IRC meeting | 15:45 |
| ttx | #info Feb 3 - OILive | 15:45 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 15:45 |
| ttx | Anything else, anyone? | 15:45 |
| amorin | nop | 15:45 |
| belmoreira | no | 15:45 |
| ttx | alright then | 15:46 |
| ttx | #action ttx to reach out to potential co-hosts for Feb 3 "Ops deep dive" episode | 15:46 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone | 15:46 |
| belmoreira | enjoy your evening and see you in 2 weeks | 15:46 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 15:46 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Jan 5 15:46:46 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:46 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2022/large_scale_sig.2022-01-05-15.00.html | 15:46 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2022/large_scale_sig.2022-01-05-15.00.txt | 15:46 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2022/large_scale_sig.2022-01-05-15.00.log.html | 15:46 |
| belmoreira | thanks | 15:46 |
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