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| belmoreira | #startmeeting large_scale_sig | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Nov 10 15:00:25 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is belmoreira. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'large_scale_sig' | 15:00 |
| belmoreira | #topic Rollcall | 15:00 |
| belmoreira | Hello! who is here for the Large Scale SIG meeting? | 15:00 |
| genekuo | o/ | 15:00 |
| belmoreira | hi genekuo | 15:01 |
| belmoreira | ping maybe amorin ? mdelavergne ? imtiazc ? | 15:01 |
| belmoreira | genekuo looks like we are the only ones | 15:02 |
| belmoreira | our agenda for today: | 15:03 |
| belmoreira | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-meeting | 15:03 |
| belmoreira | #topic Next Large Scale SIG show on Dec 9, 2021 | 15:03 |
| belmoreira | last meeting we discussed to have something in the lines of: Tricks and tools that large deployments use for day to day ops ("Ugly tricks you hide from your boss") | 15:03 |
| belmoreira | genekuo what do you think? | 15:04 |
| amorin | hello! | 15:04 |
| amorin | sorry I am late | 15:04 |
| belmoreira | hi amorin | 15:04 |
| genekuo | sounds good to me, I was thinking earlier when I'm reviewing the log from last week. | 15:05 |
| belmoreira | we started to discuss the topic for the Dec 9th OpenInfra live | 15:05 |
| genekuo | I haven't think of any tricks we've done yet, not sure if we can contribute to this topic | 15:05 |
| amorin | it can also be tools you use to manage your openstack | 15:06 |
| belmoreira | honestly, I wasn't envision this topic to be something of horrible (ugly) hacks but legit tools that we built and use every day or for special situations | 15:06 |
| belmoreira | those tools may point to the need to have them upstream or improve the CLI, operations, ... | 15:07 |
| amorin | exemple, within OVH, we have a external tool to collect all instances running on a bunch of hypervisors (in a rack e.g.) so that we can trigger some communication/mailing with the data | 15:07 |
| amorin | does it sound like something that fit the topic? | 15:08 |
| belmoreira | nice, we have something similar | 15:08 |
| belmoreira | looks perfect to me | 15:08 |
| belmoreira | also I'm thinking about the DB clean up from amorin for example | 15:08 |
| amorin | osarchiver | 15:08 |
| amorin | yes | 15:08 |
| amorin | we are also building a tool to monitor/check the openflow rules in br-int for an instance | 15:09 |
| amorin | I asked for this on the list few weeks ago | 15:09 |
| belmoreira | great | 15:10 |
| belmoreira | another example... we built a tool to automatically migrate VMs and reboot the compute nodes for kernel upgrades or hardware decommission | 15:10 |
| belmoreira | another one... a tool to automatically test the DB migrations in all cells before the real upgrade | 15:11 |
| amorin | :) | 15:11 |
| amorin | sounds like we do the same job belmoreira | 15:11 |
| belmoreira | :) | 15:11 |
| genekuo | The first one that came into mind that we have is a Ansible script to gracefully shutdown and then start RabbitMQ cluster | 15:11 |
| genekuo | but we currently doesn't have a lot of dirty hack script like this | 15:12 |
| belmoreira | I think this OpenInfra episode can be very interesting | 15:12 |
| amorin | we have a lot of ansible things :) | 15:12 |
| belmoreira | genekuo i don't see it has a dirty hack, but something useful for you and maybe others | 15:12 |
| genekuo | there's something similar upstream IIRC | 15:13 |
| belmoreira | for the rabbitmq example we didn't went that far with the ansible playbook but we just wrote a procedure :) | 15:13 |
| belmoreira | I think the next question is to find participants for episode | 15:14 |
| belmoreira | as usual a good number would be between 4 to 6 participants | 15:15 |
| amorin | is it going to be like neutron, with a bunch of question done by someone? | 15:15 |
| amorin | or more like what we did in the past, where each participant is presenting 5 minutes? | 15:16 |
| genekuo | For this topic, I would prefer each participant is presenting 5 minutes | 15:16 |
| belmoreira | amorin ttx contacted some users but I think he didn't get any reply yet | 15:16 |
| amorin | ok | 15:18 |
| belmoreira | another suggestion is to be like podcast style, like a conversation between operators | 15:18 |
| belmoreira | not sure if the 5min slides is the most appealing format | 15:19 |
| amorin | poldcast style needs more preparation | 15:19 |
| genekuo | Agree that podcast style needs more preparation as the converstation may stuck when there's no participant raising questions | 15:20 |
| amorin | +1 | 15:21 |
| belmoreira | sure, is more challenging. We would need to have a moderator and a light script or guidance | 15:21 |
| belmoreira | we can discuss the format in the next meeting | 15:22 |
| amorin | ack | 15:22 |
| belmoreira | amorin genekuo would be in for the episode? | 15:22 |
| amorin | yup | 15:22 |
| amorin | maybe someone from citynetwork and/or infomaniak? | 15:23 |
| genekuo | Let me think about it, I can confirm early next week. | 15:23 |
| genekuo | I'll send a mail to ttx if I'm able to participate | 15:23 |
| belmoreira | yes, I guess most of us have a lot of tools and tricks | 15:24 |
| belmoreira | I guess ttx will try to contact them | 15:24 |
| belmoreira | thanks genekuo | 15:25 |
| genekuo | :) | 15:26 |
| belmoreira | maybe blizzard and workday can participate | 15:26 |
| amorin | yup | 15:26 |
| belmoreira | great | 15:26 |
| belmoreira | I will work in the episode description and let you know next meeting | 15:27 |
| belmoreira | it would be a good idea to have an etherpad and collect the items that everyone would like to mention | 15:28 |
| amorin | yes | 15:28 |
| belmoreira | depending ni the format it can help organising the session | 15:29 |
| amorin | so we can collect that with the team | 15:29 |
| genekuo | sounds good | 15:29 |
| belmoreira | how about we use the old etherpad were we have the meeting topics ideas? | 15:30 |
| belmoreira | *can't find the link* | 15:30 |
| belmoreira | well, I can't find the link but I can put it in the channel later | 15:32 |
| genekuo | Couldn't find it also | 15:32 |
| belmoreira | is there anything else to be discussed about this topic? | 15:32 |
| amorin | cant help, sry | 15:32 |
| genekuo | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/large-scale-sig-lightning-talks | 15:33 |
| genekuo | Is it this one? | 15:33 |
| belmoreira | yes it is. Thanks genekuo | 15:34 |
| belmoreira | link: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/large-scale-sig-lightning-talks | 15:34 |
| belmoreira | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/large-scale-sig-lightning-talks | 15:35 |
| belmoreira | if we don't have more feedback lets move to the next topic | 15:35 |
| belmoreira | #topic Large Scale Journey updates | 15:36 |
| belmoreira | any update on this? | 15:36 |
| belmoreira | I confess that I didn't update my section for awhile | 15:36 |
| genekuo | I just reorganized the structure in Monitoring section, no major updates | 15:37 |
| belmoreira | great, thanks | 15:37 |
| belmoreira | ok, let's move to the next meeting | 15:38 |
| belmoreira | #topic Next meeting(s) | 15:38 |
| belmoreira | we should have our next meeting in 2 weeks (Nov 24th) | 15:38 |
| belmoreira | then the OpenInfra live is on Dec 9th | 15:38 |
| belmoreira | #topic Open discussion | 15:39 |
| belmoreira | anything else? | 15:39 |
| genekuo | nothing from me | 15:39 |
| amorin | nothing here | 15:39 |
| belmoreira | see you in 2 weeks | 15:40 |
| belmoreira | thanks | 15:41 |
| belmoreira | #endmeeting | 15:41 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Nov 10 15:41:12 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:41 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2021/large_scale_sig.2021-11-10-15.00.html | 15:41 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2021/large_scale_sig.2021-11-10-15.00.txt | 15:41 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2021/large_scale_sig.2021-11-10-15.00.log.html | 15:41 |
| genekuo | thanks | 15:41 |
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