Tuesday, 2020-02-25

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ChosSimbaOne_Hi. I am in need of some help. All my nova-compute is in state down, and i cannot figure out how to get them online again.09:13
ChosSimbaOne_There is connection to the rabbitmq cluster and the nodes is up.09:13
ChosSimbaOne_I cannot find any clue in the nova-compute.log on what is wrong. Reboot of the nova-compute did not fix it.09:14
ChosSimbaOne_It all started with our tempest job not terminating correctly. It started an avalanch where failed tempest job ontop of failed tempest jobs, clutted the machines, and now nothing seems to be working.09:15
ChosSimbaOne_Any good input on how to go about it?09:16
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mihalis68_ping spotz, emccormick, mihalis68_, VW_, smcginnis, shintaro  meeting in approximately 40 minutes14:20
smcginnisThanks mihalis68_14:24
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mihalis68_#startmeeting ops-meetup-team15:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb 25 15:01:15 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'15:01
mihalis68_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team15:01
mihalis68_o/15:01
smcginniso/15:01
mihalis68_#actions15:02
mihalis68_the one action from last week was for shintaro to follow-up with Jaesuk about any preferences for airship project15:02
mihalis68_I also tweeted asking for feedback on the available options for the SK meetup15:03
mihalis68_there was not much response15:03
smcginnisSince shintaro isn't here, there was a response that we should just pick the date, then they would work with Airship to try to coordinate something.15:04
smcginnisIIRC, we had a couple dates that seemed like they worked well for most people?15:04
mihalis68_erik was checking that travel and accomodation was clear for the suggested dates. I think he found they are15:05
mihalis68_the one hesitation was that the island seemed significantly harder for any international travelers to get to15:06
smcginnisThere was also a possibility of having a Ceph Day along with the Ops Meetup since Cephalacon was cancelled due to virus concerns.15:06
mihalis68_he was expecting to make this meeting, tough15:06
smcginnisTrue. It might make this event a very local one.15:06
VW_o/15:07
mihalis68_ping emccormick15:07
mihalis68_in the meanwhile...15:07
mihalis68_#topic vancouver15:07
*** openstack changes topic to "vancouver (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"15:07
mihalis68_we need to respond to the survey by end of week15:07
mihalis68_my thinking is we ask for space for ops meetup, but not ops docs as well15:08
mihalis68_perhaps 1/2 day, 30 people15:08
mihalis68_thoughts?15:08
emccormicko/ I'm here. Just wrapping up a call15:08
smcginnisThat sounds reasonable to me. Not sure we would have content to go longer than that.15:08
VW_yeah - I would say 1/2 day to a day for Ops in general15:08
smcginnisANd might be more value in having ops being able to spend some time in other discussions.15:08
emccormickIf there's not a space constraint so much as there was in China I wouldn't hold us to 30 people15:09
emccormickwe had that many in Shanghai, and that was after the summit when most people had gone home15:10
smcginnisGiven no summit type activities, so we think there will be more than that though?15:10
emccormickbut yeah I think a half day of dedicated time is sufficient given other things15:10
emccormickThis whole conference is a giant black box15:11
mihalis68_I'm asking for a large board room, 40 people15:11
emccormickor, if you prefer, a box of chocolates15:11
smcginnisStarting to concern me that the format isn't fully nailed down yet and we're already into registration and travel planning.15:11
smcginnismihalis68_: ++15:11
mihalis68_not sure how that posted. didn't type that15:11
mihalis68_but I agree15:11
mihalis68_then again, I'm sure a lot of people are unsure about such things due to the coronavirus15:12
VW_yeah - that's going to play a huge factor on attendance15:13
mihalis68_I'm asking for 1/2 day to 1 day. If we have a day, then we can find the material. We did two full days in Denver, and of course at each of the dedicated ops meetups15:13
mihalis68_for one thing, we could do some ceph sessions15:14
emccormickIf we end up with an empty half day we go do something else or have a docs hackathon15:14
mihalis68_I'm not sure exactly how to handle ceph, though15:14
emccormickI think I saw there's gong to be a ceph day in parallel btw15:15
emccormickhttps://ceph.io/cephdays/ceph-day-vancouver-2020/15:15
wendallkatersYeah, we are working with Red Hat to have a Ceph day. It will most likely be on Thursday, June 1115:16
emccormickTheir site says Monday, but perhaps that's just a placeholder at this point15:17
emccormickor they're wrong ;)15:17
mihalis68_ok so we don't need to include that in our planning of ops content, ok15:17
wendallkatersWe had a call with them yesterday. They may have just not had the chance to update it yet.15:18
mihalis68_I'm ready to submit the form15:18
mihalis68_1/2-1 days. 30-40 people. Ops meetups. Not ops docs.15:18
emccormickI mean, we can have talk on it of our own if there's interest but *shrug*15:18
emccormickThanks wendallkaters :)15:19
mihalis68_I've put me and you moderating, emccormick. Ok?15:19
mihalis68_anyone else?15:19
emccormicksounds good15:19
smcginnisMight want to avoid having it at the same time as the ceph day.15:19
smcginnisI would imagine there will be a lot of overlap in interest.15:20
mihalis68_ok submitted15:20
VW_awesome15:20
mihalis68_@wendallkaters can you add on smcginnis' point about NOT overlapping ops meetup and ceph day?15:20
mihalis68_i saw that miliseconds after submitting :(15:20
wendallkatersYup! I will make that note. That shouldn’t be a problem!15:20
mihalis68_thanks!15:21
mihalis68_also thanks for the super helpful follow-up emails on this15:21
wendallkatersOf course!15:21
mihalis68_#topic meetup #2 2020 (SK)15:22
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mihalis68_we're not getting much if any feedback on potential date choice15:22
mihalis68_the one thing I am undecided on is whether or not the island venue is valid when it's harder to get to for international travellers15:23
mihalis68_the tough thing is it seems to be the one people like the most15:23
emccormickTime to force the issue then.15:23
emccormickWho said they like it the most? I mean, I like the idea of it. Who wouldn't ;)15:24
emccormickI guess, though, that 90% people will be locals to the region and Shintaro did say he could fly direct to there15:24
mihalis68_well for example the one reply was this: https://twitter.com/w_salan/status/1229804989725450241?s=2015:25
emccormickso really, it's just you, me, maybe Kendall, maybe Martin15:25
mihalis68_but she can't go...15:25
emccormickOh man, that Coronavirus prediction didn't work out15:25
mihalis68_I don't think martingehrke can make that one15:26
emccormickI will say I have not examined hotels on the island yet either, nor flight options15:26
mihalis68_he made a throwaway comment about london being easier to justify than SK15:26
emccormickwell, let's focus on dates first then15:26
mihalis68_maybe we need a poll? Just put three locations and dates up and get that in front of everyone by all known means?15:26
emccormickand I'll research the island a bit more15:27
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emccormickI am fine with doing a poll on both15:27
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smcginnisSeems like getting feedback through a poll would help here.15:28
mihalis68_I'm starting to think maybe we SHOULD do the island15:28
mihalis68_I can take the time to get there, if that's the venue15:28
mihalis68_so I'm in for the island15:28
smcginnisThe island sounds awesome, but for the sake of those travelling a little farther, it may be more practical to look at the other options.15:28
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mihalis68_i'm sure you are15:28
smcginnisBut if travel isn't much of a difference to go one more hop, it sounds like it would be nice.15:29
mihalis68_yeah, we do need to put it to the community15:29
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mihalis68_since you offered, emccormick :15:29
spotzsorry was running late thtis morning15:29
mihalis68_#action emccormick to reseearch jejue island for the SK meetup15:29
emccormickwhee15:29
emccormickhi spotz!15:30
mihalis68_assuming it's copacetic for an ops meetup, we'll then put three options up in a poll to the entire community15:30
spotzUm I just looked at the UC scroll back and someone postteed SK was a virus disaster?15:30
emccormickAs for dates, if all things are equal for those in Asia, I would rather the 1st or 3rd week15:31
emccormickso I can be home for labor day weekend and not on an airplane ;)15:31
mihalis68_if that's true, spotz, is the event likely to not happen?15:32
emccormickSK is presently involved in it, but this is September we're talking about15:32
spotzseongsoocho15:32
spotzmorning,  In just a few days, South Korea has became a virus disaster... Keep healthy everybody.15:32
spotzThat's what I got15:32
VW_eek15:32
emccormickhonestly, if it's not under control then travel in general will be a bitch so it'd go nowhere15:32
emccormickthey had 700 cases as of yesterday15:33
smcginnisThere was a group purposefully spreading the virus in SK.15:33
smcginnis:(15:33
mihalis68_ from what I read this morning, the virus will not be contained and most people will get it and then most of them will be just fine15:33
emccormickbut Italy has that many now15:33
smcginnisBut I would really hope by Sept things are under control.15:33
smcginnisIf not, we will probably have bigger things to worry about.15:33
emccormickOr we'll just have all been sick15:33
mihalis68_there's some talk that spring/summer sun help limit it15:33
mihalis68_we can try to work out options for it and do a poll, but put a proviso on it that it will depend on conditions being favorable/possible for such an event15:34
emccormickSo everything being planned has an * but we can't not plan for it15:34
emccormick*nod*15:34
mihalis68_I live in a big city with daughter in public school. I expect we'll get it anyway15:35
emccormickyeah, anyone with kids in school is getting it :P15:35
smcginnisIn case anyone hasn't seen it yet, this is useful - https://who.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/c88e37cfc43b4ed3baf977d77e4a066715:35
smcginnisSK is definitely up from last time I looked.15:35
emccormickThat's a disturbing dashboard15:37
mihalis68_alright. Let's aim to get the poll up next week?15:38
mihalis68_#topic berlin15:38
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emccormickkk15:38
mihalis68_berlin will be a summit15:38
mihalis68_does that include Forum?15:38
emccormick@wendallkaters ?15:39
spotzIt should as far as I know15:40
emccormickI would assume so15:40
smcginnisThat was my understanding.15:40
smcginnis"Normal" Summit format.15:40
wendallkatersYeah, Berlin summit will have a forum15:41
emccormicksuper15:41
mihalis68_alright so we can do the normal ops meetup topics during forum then. I expect to be in berlin too15:41
emccormickSo have to do the obligatory ceph session then15:42
mihalis68_yay15:43
emccormickwill see if other topics bubble up before CFP time15:43
mihalis68_we have two other events between now and berlin from which to glean topics to bring to germany15:43
mihalis68_think there's little else to say about the next event but 2... so15:44
mihalis68_#topic any other business15:44
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emccormickyep that feels like forever from now15:45
emccormickNothing else from me15:45
mihalis68_final call15:46
VW_nothing else here15:46
VW_just trying follow and catch up from missing a few15:47
mihalis68_#endmeeting15:47
*** openstack changes topic to "Topics related to operating OpenStack infrastructure | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/"15:47
mihalis68_thanks all!15:47
openstackMeeting ended Tue Feb 25 15:47:29 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:47
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emccormickHave a great week everyone. Stay healthy.15:48
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