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| spotz | here if we're meeting | 14:00 |
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| smcginnis | I haven't heard anything. | 14:02 |
| smcginnis | I know Chris had a big weekend. | 14:02 |
| shintaro | hi | 14:03 |
| smcginnis | Hey shintaro | 14:03 |
| shintaro | hi smcginnis | 14:03 |
| spotz | Does anyone have any numbers or info from the NYC meetup we can give to the board meeting? | 14:04 |
| smcginnis | We probably need Chris for that. | 14:04 |
| VW_ | howdy | 14:05 |
| smcginnis | I guess we can run a meeting so something is captured, but not sure if we have everyone we need. | 14:05 |
| smcginnis | #startmeeting ops-meetup-team | 14:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 29 14:05:27 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 14:05 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team Meeting notes | 14:05 |
| shintaro | I don't have numbers but the etherpad for NYC OpsMeetup is #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC19-OPS-MEETUP | 14:06 |
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| shintaro | I see about 25 names listed | 14:07 |
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| smcginnis | One of the actions from last week was a request to send photos of the NY event to the superuser folks. | 14:07 |
| smcginnis | Anyone know if anything was sent? | 14:07 |
| smcginnis | Looks like the article was published at least: | 14:08 |
| smcginnis | #link https://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-ops-meetup-features-ceph-openstack-architectures-and-operator-pain-points/ | 14:08 |
| spotz | I thouht I saw a tweet for an article | 14:08 |
| smcginnis | So looks like just that cover photo from med. | 14:08 |
| smcginnis | Looks like a good group. Wish I could have made it. | 14:08 |
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| shintaro | the article looks great | 14:09 |
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| VW_ | indeed | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | Did anyone else have any actions for the 2020 meetups? Or was that all on Chris? | 14:10 |
| VW_ | I missed last week, so I'm behind on all that - sorry | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | Would be great to help him. He and Bloomberg have been doing a lot of work for this. Though since it's all Bloomberg, not sure if it's easy to inject ourselves into any of that process. | 14:11 |
| smcginnis | #topic Shanghai | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Shanghai (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:11 | |
| shintaro | agree | 14:11 |
| smcginnis | Maybe Shanghai is a little easier. I know several folks were going to make it there. | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | emccormick: You around? | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | Anyone have any details of the plans there? | 14:12 |
| shintaro | I will be there too. | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | I've been distracted. Do you remember what the plan is shintaro? As far as what dates or locations? | 14:13 |
| shintaro | I think we have Forum session for arch show and tell/war stories. and Thursday OpsMeetups sessions | 14:13 |
| emccormick | Hi am here now | 14:13 |
| emccormick | Meeting hell | 14:14 |
| shintaro | I forgot the date for the Forum sesison, but I think it was on Monday after Keynote | 14:14 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/summit-schedule/events/24415/ops-war-stories Forum Session | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | Please add it to your schedule if you will be there. | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | Monday mid-day. | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | That reminds me, I should probably try to build out my schedule. | 14:15 |
| shintaro | We were asking Horace to call for attendees in the Chinese user groups, but we haven't got any response yet. | 14:15 |
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| emccormick | Our Thursday session is after lunch | 14:15 |
| smcginnis | That would be great if we could get a good turn out from local operators. | 14:15 |
| smcginnis | Oh, in case you missed it, some tips were posted by the Foundation. | 14:16 |
| emccormick | only 3 things beyond the War Stories on the etherpad so far. Need to ping again to see if anyone else wants to pitch in | 14:16 |
| smcginnis | Probably an easier link, but this is what I have - https://object-storage-ca-ymq-1.vexxhost.net/swift/v1/6e4619c416ff4bd19e1c087f27a43eea/www-assets-prod/summits/shanghai/Shanghai-Travel-Tips.pdf | 14:16 |
| smcginnis | emccormick: Do you have that etherpad link handy? | 14:16 |
| emccormick | Yeah I saw in email. It was super awesome | 14:16 |
| emccormick | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PVG-OPS-Forum-Brainstorming | 14:17 |
| emccormick | I'm going to attempt to take Maglev -> Metro -> hotel. Pray for me :D | 14:17 |
| shintaro | we probably need to put up an etherpad link some where on the schedule or Forum Wiki | 14:17 |
| smcginnis | emccormick: Hah | 14:17 |
| smcginnis | shintaro: Good idea. | 14:18 |
| smcginnis | Looks like one is listed here - http://ptg.openstack.org/etherpads.html | 14:18 |
| smcginnis | Those are autogenerated links that can be updated by using the PTGBot in the #openstack-ptg channel. | 14:18 |
| smcginnis | Instructions here - https://opendev.org/openstack/ptgbot/src/branch/master/README.rst#etherpad | 14:19 |
| emccormick | I can just copy over the topics suggested already and post that out to the ML and Twitter | 14:19 |
| emccormick | does anyone know if there's an Openstack WeChat group of some sort? | 14:19 |
| emccormick | I have WeChat now | 14:19 |
| smcginnis | That's probably easiest. So we can keep the brainstorming one separate from the one we actually use for taking notes at the event. | 14:19 |
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| smcginnis | There is, but it's huge and mostly (99.999999%) in Mandarin. | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | As far as a general one. | 14:20 |
| emccormick | heh | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | If anyone else has WeChat, I'm on there as sean_mcginnis. | 14:20 |
| emccormick | Well if I spam it with English it should raise attention then ;) | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | ;) | 14:20 |
| emccormick | smcginnis I added you last night actually | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | Oh, I should check. I don't always get notices. | 14:21 |
| smcginnis | Anyone else that's there, please add me. | 14:21 |
| smcginnis | We can be lost together. :D | 14:21 |
| emccormick | Brilliant! | 14:21 |
| emccormick | I got a Fi phone which has built in VPN. Plus another standalone VPN. Something's gotta work | 14:21 |
| smcginnis | emccormick: It tells me you are a suspicious user. :) | 14:21 |
| emccormick | I have heard the Fi one works well there | 14:22 |
| emccormick | haha | 14:22 |
| shintaro | I'm installing it now. yeah it's a huge app :) | 14:22 |
| emccormick | Definitely I am suspicious | 14:22 |
| emccormick | Also I got Didi | 14:22 |
| emccormick | And managed to get a US credit card registered with it. | 14:23 |
| smcginnis | emccormick: Were you able to set that up? I've heard conflicting stories that you need a Chinese bank account or a Chinese phone number. | 14:23 |
| emccormick | so I may have no idea where to go, but I can take a car there at least | 14:23 |
| emccormick | yes it works | 14:23 |
| smcginnis | I started to install it, but it wanted so many permissions on my phone that I uninstalled it. | 14:23 |
| emccormick | Not all cards, but most visa / MC | 14:23 |
| emccormick | some said they got an Amex to work, but not mine | 14:23 |
| smcginnis | Good to know. | 14:23 |
| mihalis68_ | hey guys, sorry, had a clash | 14:23 |
| emccormick | I got a Citi Mastercard in it | 14:24 |
| smcginnis | Welcome back mihalis68_ | 14:24 |
| emccormick | o/ | 14:24 |
| mihalis68_ | I don't have my devices sorted at all | 14:24 |
| VW_ | hey mihalis68_ | 14:24 |
| emccormick | just make sure you get the right Didi app. Not the "Global" one | 14:24 |
| mihalis68_ | you guys aren't taking your personal cellphone? | 14:24 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68_: Just on the Shanghai topic. I think we're done though. | 14:24 |
| smcginnis | I am. | 14:24 |
| emccormick | it's the specifically mainland china one. Hardest part is getting it to stay in English ;) | 14:24 |
| smcginnis | T-Mobile global roaming is great there. You can actually get to Google services with a US sim card. | 14:24 |
| mihalis68_ | I have AT&T roaming | 14:25 |
| emccormick | I got a Google Fi phone which I will wipe when I get home | 14:25 |
| emccormick | which uses T-Mobile roaming ;) | 14:25 |
| mihalis68_ | I think I have to take my iphone, i'm just too close to leaving to not have that | 14:25 |
| mihalis68_ | I will ask for a loaner laptop however | 14:25 |
| emccormick | #action emccormick to populate the Shanghai meetup etherpad and tweet / mail it | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | Anything else on Shanghai before we move along? | 14:27 |
| smcginnis | #chair mihalis68_ emccormick shintaro | 14:27 |
| openstack | Current chairs: emccormick mihalis68_ shintaro smcginnis | 14:27 |
| emccormick | I think that's it. I land Sunday at 4pm if anyone comes in around then | 14:27 |
| smcginnis | I land Saturday at 6:30pm. | 14:27 |
| mihalis68_ | something like that for me too. sorry I'm not even logged in. Constant emergency production related meetings | 14:28 |
| shintaro | I'm arriving 21:30 Sunday | 14:28 |
| emccormick | Birthday on Friday and I'm spending it with my babies, so late arrival it is | 14:28 |
| smcginnis | emccormick: Happy birthday! | 14:28 |
| emccormick | gracias! At least I'm not on an airplane like I seem to be most years hehe | 14:28 |
| mihalis68_ | HB EM! | 14:28 |
| smcginnis | #topic Vancouver | 14:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vancouver (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:29 | |
| smcginnis | I wanted to bring this up early. | 14:29 |
| emccormick | 谢谢 | 14:29 |
| smcginnis | I think I've shared that the plan is to make the first event in 2020 "collaboration focused". | 14:29 |
| smcginnis | So I think Vancouver is going to be more Forum/PTG like and less Summit. | 14:29 |
| emccormick | indeed | 14:29 |
| emccormick | I like the sound of it | 14:30 |
| emccormick | hopefully we can take over a room. | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | Which means, it might be good to start talking now about what kind of Ops presence we would like to have there and make sure we're not stuck in a far corner on an odd day. | 14:30 |
| emccormick | is it going to be fluid like a PTG or scheduled like a forum? | 14:30 |
| emccormick | or a mix? | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | I haven't heard any details. I think that's still being discussed. | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | I would guess it's going to be more PTG-like. | 14:31 |
| emccormick | better for Ops Meetups type things anyway | 14:31 |
| emccormick | I would love it to be a nice bigass meetup type thing with lots of Ops | 14:32 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I think it can work well. | 14:32 |
| emccormick | will make up for us doing UK and SK | 14:32 |
| smcginnis | Maybe some semi-scheduled times that some of the project teams can get feedback from ops, then more fluid times for ops to go through different topics? | 14:32 |
| emccormick | sure. The feedback forum sessions seem to draw fairly well | 14:33 |
| smcginnis | Anyway, it's early enough that we can start asking for what we would like there while the whole thing is still being figured out. | 14:33 |
| VW_ | exactly - maybe even space each day | 14:33 |
| VW_ | we'd just need solid topics lined up to justify | 14:33 |
| VW_ | but we could have some Ops stuff going the whole time | 14:34 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, good point. Maybe not necessarily a concrete schedule of topics, but at least have something to justify wanting a room. | 14:34 |
| smcginnis | I'll try to share any more details I hear on Vancouver if/when I hear them. | 14:34 |
| emccormick | I put it on the Shanghai etherpad | 14:35 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 14:35 |
| emccormick | we can chat about it there | 14:35 |
| emccormick | and carry on here after | 14:35 |
| smcginnis | THat's a good plan. Let's strategize there, then we can follow up with the Foundation after Shanghai with a list of our demands. ;) | 14:35 |
| emccormick | haha | 14:35 |
| shintaro | +1 | 14:36 |
| emccormick | Get the Kendalls drunk and make them promise us whatever we want | 14:36 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 14:36 |
| smcginnis | Anything else on Vancouver for now? | 14:36 |
| VW_ | no - but I endorse emccormick's plan | 14:36 |
| smcginnis | #topic All other business | 14:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "All other business (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:36 | |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:36 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68_: We kind of skipped over the 2020 events. | 14:37 |
| smcginnis | Any updates on 2020 #1? | 14:37 |
| emccormick | That reminds me I need to go dig up the template and get it up for both | 14:37 |
| emccormick | Hopefully we can get the SK one on the books as well, though it would be nice to have an idea of scheduling for the big fall event before we set dates | 14:38 |
| mihalis68_ | sorry, distracted again. I hope to get the formal offer posted using the normal boilerplate etherpad text as a template before I leave for china | 14:38 |
| emccormick | this spring one is very late by summit standards | 14:38 |
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| emccormick | o/ Yo jamesmcarthur | 14:39 |
| mihalis68_ | nothing has changed, it will be the dates mentioned, one large high-spec room with all the trimmings, and we'll provide breakfast and lunch | 14:39 |
| emccormick | spiffy | 14:40 |
| mihalis68_ | I agree with trying to form a plan for vancouver when in china, I'll be there | 14:40 |
| emccormick | put it out and tweet it. | 14:40 |
| mihalis68_ | just seeing if my employer can provide loaner laptop and phone | 14:40 |
| mihalis68_ | may as well swing for the fences | 14:40 |
| emccormick | Maybe we can get Mark / JB to mention it on Monday morning | 14:40 |
| mihalis68_ | once it's posted I will tweet it on the notification account | 14:40 |
| mihalis68_ | I consider it important that this be done this week | 14:41 |
| emccormick | I'd be surprised if they couldn't give you one | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | That would be great. | 14:41 |
| emccormick | I doubt they want you walking about with your own ;) | 14:41 |
| mihalis68_ | but of course I have to then let the community respond to it | 14:41 |
| mihalis68_ | I'll need you guys to make sure we're sufficiently respecting the process | 14:42 |
| jamesmcarthur | emccormick: you rang? | 14:42 |
| emccormick | Just sayin' hi :) | 14:42 |
| mihalis68_ | (it would be easy to make the mistake of making the proposal and then give the impression I self-approve - not a good look) | 14:42 |
| emccormick | well, I approve so what else do we need :D | 14:43 |
| smcginnis | jamesmcarthur: Do you happen to know yet if Vancouver will be more like a PTG? Or Forum? Or structured completely different? | 14:43 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68_, emccormick: Yeah, I think we've been sharing that it was the plan for awhile now, so I think we're good to proceed. | 14:43 |
| mihalis68_ | yeah, from my laptop I can ssh into interesting places. I am not enough of a security professional to fully understand what might happen if it were stolen, let's say. I think it really shouldn't travel | 14:43 |
| jamesmcarthur | The latest I've heard is somethign closer to opendev + a ptg/forum. So a smaller conference footprint, with a heavy focus on devs and operators | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | jamesmcarthur: Oh great! So there will still be some formal presentations? | 14:44 |
| jamesmcarthur | smcginnis: that's my understanding, yes | 14:44 |
| mihalis68_ | sounds good to me too! | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | Cool, thanks Jimmy. | 14:44 |
| jamesmcarthur | Please don't take my word as the end all be all though :) I think the situation is still fluid. | 14:45 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 14:45 |
| emccormick | jamesmcarthur Have you found us a pool hall yet? | 14:45 |
| jamesmcarthur | ha! i think there is one near the convention center | 14:45 |
| mihalis68_ | heh, no way I'd play either of you again | 14:45 |
| mihalis68_ | or at least, not with any expectation of winning | 14:45 |
| emccormick | Please, you were kicking ass in Tokyo | 14:46 |
| jamesmcarthur | I think we could all use a rematch. | 14:46 |
| emccormick | OK, anything else? | 14:47 |
| mihalis68_ | emc I get 5 minutes of proficiency per year. I've already had 2019s | 14:47 |
| emccormick | haha | 14:47 |
| emccormick | I hear a strong ale helps | 14:47 |
| smcginnis | I need to get going. Anything else for the meeting? Or I've made a few others chair, so I can just drop off and let you all continue? | 14:47 |
| emccormick | I'm all done and loaded with tasks | 14:47 |
| mihalis68_ | I have my tasks - propose london, get devices for travel | 14:48 |
| mihalis68_ | so I'm good | 14:48 |
| shintaro | nothing from me | 14:48 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone. I'll wrap it up then. | 14:49 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 14:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 29 14:49:25 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-10-29-14.05.html | 14:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-10-29-14.05.txt | 14:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-10-29-14.05.log.html | 14:49 |
| mihalis68_ | thanks smcginnis! | 14:49 |
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