Tuesday, 2019-08-20

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mihalis68_ping  mihalis68_, spotz, emccormick, mrhillsman, med_, smcginnis13:59
spotzhola14:00
mihalis68_#startmeeting ops-meetup-team14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 20 14:00:24 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
mihalis68_hello14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'14:00
mihalis68_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team14:00
mihalis68_ping shintaro14:00
mihalis68_#topic actions14:01
*** openstack changes topic to "actions (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:01
mihalis68_I fully expect this meeting to be very lightly attended14:01
mihalis68_so I'm going to just plough through as a lot of the work needed now is etherpads, agenda slots, moderators etc14:01
spotzCan't believe the meetup is in 2 weeks!14:01
mihalis68_I made a start on the etherpads - we have three posted and tweeted14:01
emccormickI am here. Idle uncouple minutes. Will catch up14:02
mihalis68_yes 2 weeks is a little scary, although we have been in much worse shape at this stage in previous rounds14:02
mihalis68_another action I had which I forgot was to contact thingee about it14:02
mihalis68_I just did that but I have to say it's a little late now14:02
mihalis68_however there are some redhat people coming14:02
mihalis68_attendance is right on 40 people currently14:03
spotzwow that's a nice number, helps for NYC to be a large city14:03
mihalis68_I also had an action to ask attendees about sponsoring the social14:03
mihalis68_I emailed everyone but no response so far14:03
mihalis68_I will do that one more time14:03
mihalis68_#action mihalis68_ to repeat the call for a sponsor for the social14:04
mihalis68_shintaro had an action to contact horace li about space for the ops to meet in shanghai14:05
mihalis68_I don't see him here today but he's coming in september!14:05
mihalis68_any other progress to report?14:05
spotzmihalis68_: Maybe reach out too Rain see if RDO can sponsor?14:05
spotzmihalis68_: I had contact Erin a while ago, when I saw her at the b-day thing I know ops wanted space14:06
emccormickHow are we on session count vs. Time slots?14:06
emccormickDo we need to throw some other proposals up just to vote on at the event to fill holes?14:06
mihalis68_we can have a near infinite number of sessions, given we have 3 nice rooms14:06
mihalis68_I don't think we'll fill all 3 rooms solidly for two days14:07
mihalis68_but that's ok14:07
emccormickWell just so long as we have enough to fill a single track14:07
mihalis68_oh yeah14:07
mihalis68_I plan to convert the remaining topics that are popular (multiple +1s) to etherpads and start asking for moderators this week as well as start throwing them into an order to see how it looks14:08
emccormickK cool14:08
mihalis68_I don't know Rain, so I'd be a little reluctant to reach out "hey you don't know me, can you get money for..."14:08
mihalis68_we do have julia and _med registered14:09
emccormickI have an action item to actually book a hotel ;)14:09
mihalis68_so redhat "knows" about this event officially14:09
mihalis68_#topic NYC meetup14:09
emccormickWith these close ones I seem to do them like you. Everything last minute14:09
*** openstack changes topic to "NYC meetup (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:09
spotzmihalis68_: I know she's at a conference this week:(14:09
mihalis68_what else do we need to do before the day?14:09
emccormickI think that pretty much covered it14:10
mihalis68_is anyone planning on helping with the etherpads?14:10
emccormickAre we going to meet up Sunday evening?14:10
mihalis68_*pregnant glance at erik*14:10
spotzhehe14:11
emccormickI will grab a couple when we are dine here14:11
spotzI'll cheer you all on from here14:11
emccormickWill put initials by the ones I'm working on14:11
mihalis68_I'll be in town I expect, but note that the event is the Tuesday and Wednesday14:11
emccormickSorry habit14:11
emccormickMonday14:11
emccormickI'll be coming from PA by train I think14:12
mihalis68_is it bad of me to be looking at Labor Day as the perfect "finish the agenda" time?14:12
emccormickYe Olde Keystone service14:12
mihalis68_train? or web service?14:13
emccormickWhatever works for you. I'll be outside chasing my kids and sweating14:13
emccormickChoo choo14:13
mihalis68_I'm confused now...  you're coming on sunday?14:13
emccormickNot identity14:13
emccormickHehe14:13
mihalis68_heh bad joke14:13
emccormickMonday14:13
mihalis68_I'll certainly be up for a gentle gathering the night before, yes14:13
emccormickWell it's the appropriate way to come to an Openstack event14:13
emccormickOn the Keystone14:14
mihalis68_On the Train, drinking a Stein14:14
spotzoh boy14:14
* jproulx groans14:14
mihalis68_yeah sorry, moving on14:14
mihalis68_we've got our work cut out14:14
mihalis68_but still have the time14:14
mihalis68_#topic shanghai14:14
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mihalis68_Erik shared a link for a way to get the business visa for a trip to china last time I was on here (can dig it out if anyone wants)14:15
mihalis68_unfortunately there's still no news on whether there will be an ops meetup during the summit14:15
mihalis68_or at least, we still don't have space for that14:15
spotzI know space is tight, haven't heard back from Erin if we goot any yet14:16
mihalis68_I will email shintaro to chase the idea of getting some directly via the local foundation rep horace14:16
emccormickWant to email shintaro and see if he talked to Horace?14:16
emccormickNod14:17
mihalis68_#action mihalis68_ followup with Shintaro about whether horace li could find us a room in shanghai14:17
mihalis68_I suppose we should propose some forum sessions irrespective of an ops meetup14:18
emccormickI don't think the system has opened yet14:19
mihalis68_how did the forum sessions in denver go? I didn't make that summit unfortunately14:19
emccormickSo that should be a meetup session14:19
emccormickForum planning14:19
mihalis68_I just recall that for some reason they expect us to close forum submissions when we're still wrapped up in the prior ops meetup14:19
emccormickThey went very well but were few14:19
mihalis68_#action mihalis68_ to add a NYC meetup session for Forum Planning (for Shanghai)14:20
emccormickIt was all me proposing though14:20
emccormickTime ran out for it14:20
emccormickThis time I think submissions won't end til after the meetup14:21
mihalis68_ok that's a bit more sane14:21
emccormickIf they do I will do as last time and put in a couple placeholders14:21
mihalis68_good man14:21
mihalis68_I think we may need to look at the structure of team at some point. It appears to have become you, me some help from spotz and smcginnis14:22
mihalis68_it's a bit thing14:22
mihalis68_thin14:23
spotzwell happy to help14:23
mihalis68_shintaro too14:23
mihalis68_no current european help14:23
mihalis68_and smcginnis is in a new, different job14:23
emccormickAnd we appreciate you spotz :)14:23
mihalis68_although I did notice Dell joined up with AT&T to work on Airship (announced today)14:23
emccormickNeat14:24
mihalis68_anything else regarding Shanghai?14:24
emccormickNope14:25
mihalis68_#topic 2020 meetups14:25
*** openstack changes topic to "2020 meetups (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:25
emccormickStill on me to send emails asking for Europeans14:25
mihalis68_well remembered14:26
emccormickWill finishbmy half written email14:26
mihalis68_#action emccormick to action the heck out of his actions14:26
mihalis68_#topic any other business14:26
*** openstack changes topic to "any other business (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:26
emccormickDo you want to do a team session in NYC?14:27
emccormickMaybe do a little recruiting14:27
mihalis68_isn't that "1st evening sesson, both days"? :014:27
emccormickHehe14:28
emccormickI suppose so14:28
mihalis68_but seriously it's a good ide14:28
mihalis68_but seriously it's a good idea14:28
mihalis68_we've got this partial second track of discussing the possibilty of extending these events to officially cover ceph, or splitting off a similar stream all about ceph14:28
mihalis68_depending on what people think about that we might have some new recruits14:29
emccormickCould help boost attendance for both14:29
mihalis68_#action mihalis68_ to add a NYC meetup session on the ops meetup team itself14:30
emccormickWill be interesting to see. I have some Ceph bitching to do at any rate14:30
mihalis68_given we are just 3, I think that may be it for today14:30
mihalis68_final call14:30
mihalis68_sorry I missed last week, btw14:31
mihalis68_I had thought I might make it, but we were on the road back from Niagara Falls - impromptu road trip!14:31
emccormickspots how's yer head? I saw you were back in the saddle again literally and figuratively.14:31
mihalis68_ah yes good point. Sorry to hear about that!14:31
emccormickSpotz too14:32
emccormick much damn phone14:32
mihalis68_oh... one more point of order...14:32
spotzI'm back riding the older pony, hope to sit on the younger one tomorrow:)14:32
mihalis68_in Berlin we ended up not really having a fixed itinerary. Instead we had a list of topics in order14:32
mihalis68_and then we chewed through it and took breaks depending on the mood of the room14:33
emccormickGlad to hear it14:33
mihalis68_me too14:33
mihalis68_how do we feel about doing it that way again?14:33
mihalis68_it's more like how PTG works14:33
emccormickI am all for the free flowing schedule14:33
mihalis68_ok cool.14:34
mihalis68_me too14:34
mihalis68_that removes on source of stress14:34
mihalis68_previously getting a fixed agenda locked in literally ruined many nights sleep14:34
emccormickThat's how these started, so back to our roota14:34
emccormickWith < 50 people it works better14:35
mihalis68_ok cool ... and agreed14:35
emccormickWith 100+ not so much14:35
mihalis68_althhough we might still get some more14:35
mihalis68_second final call14:35
mihalis68_:P14:36
emccormickClose it out14:36
mihalis68_#endmeeting14:37
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mihalis68_thanks all14:37
spotzthanks14:37
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