Tuesday, 2019-07-02

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smcginnismihalis68_ reported he is having IRC issues.14:01
shintarohi14:02
emccormicko/14:03
smcginnisGood evening shintaro. o/14:03
emccormickI may be in and out as well. Cloudflare is down14:03
emccormickthe most highly available thing ever is not available *heh*14:03
shintarohi smcginnis, emccormick14:03
* med_ is here but had bupkes to offer14:03
smcginnisI don't think there were any immediate critical items to go over.14:04
smcginnisSounded like everything is well underway for NYC.14:04
smcginnisThough might be good to do another push for topics for that one.14:05
shintarothat's great14:05
emccormickI emailed some folks just this morning about the space thing. Hopefully will have things to report next week14:05
emccormickYeah lets definitely do another tweet and email14:05
emccormickI nominate mihalis68_ since he's not here to defend himself14:06
smcginnisHaha, good call.14:07
emccormickheh. Just remembered that since Cloudflare is dead, so is openstack.org14:07
emccormickneato14:07
emccormicktwitter is lit up like a christmas tree with "cloudflare broke" tweets.14:09
emccormickSomeone needs to send eHugs to their ops ;)14:09
shintaroah That's why openstack.org site was so slow.14:11
smcginnisSounds like a DDos?14:14
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mihalis68_https://twitter.com/LanceUlanoff/status/114605847136173260914:14
mihalis68_I'm so excited to finally get in to irccloud to announce ... no progress14:14
smcginnisWas just looking at that.14:14
mihalis68_although some extensive internal challenges are much better where I work14:15
shintarowow14:15
smcginnisApparently now resolved.14:16
mihalis68_#startmeeting ops-meetup-team14:17
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul  2 14:17:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:17
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:17
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'14:17
emccormickhttps://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/tx4pgxs6zxdr14:17
mihalis68_there are 3+ of us here14:17
emccormickwibble14:17
mihalis68_can meet to at least check in14:17
mihalis68_#topic action14:17
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mihalis68_#topic actions14:17
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mihalis68_no progress from me I'm afraid, other than what I reported two weeks ago - I have been chasing our events team to open sign-ups for the event in september14:18
mihalis68_almost-but-not-quite-the-same-as-progress : we've resolved some internal emergencies (multiple waves)14:18
mihalis68_on my plate still: start the process of forming etherpads for popular topics and confirm moderators14:19
mihalis68_continue to chase the events team14:19
emccormickI just sent out email this morning re: the rooms so we'll see.14:19
mihalis68_ask for permission to book the space for the evening event14:19
mihalis68_ah, that's good thanks!14:19
smcginnisI was pinged asking if I knew if the Ops folks were interested in some space at the PTG.14:20
emccormickwe nominated you to retweet and email the meetup CFP again since you weren't here to defend yourself14:20
smcginnisI know that idea was brought up before, but I don't remember where we left it.14:20
emccormickoh well I guess those crossed in the night smcginnis. Who asked?14:20
mihalis68_spotz was conversing with someone in teh foundation about it last I heard14:21
emccormickWell, we want space adjacent to the PTG but not integrated. I suppose it's splitting hairs though since space is space.14:21
smcginnisemccormick: diablo_rojo14:21
smcginnisThe unfortunate thing with this next PTG is there are going to be less dedicated rooms.14:21
smcginnisSounds like there will be some large halls with space carved out for different groups.14:21
emccormickYeah that was the concern I expressed14:22
* smcginnis is a little skeptical of this arrangement.14:22
emccormickMaybe we should go old school and have it in a hotel lobby bar :D14:22
mihalis68_well if our group is small enough that's always an option14:23
mihalis68_but if it were 60 people, less so14:23
spotzmihalis68_: Erin Disney14:23
spotzI told them 15-20 but it would depend on the overall number attending. If there's only 1000 people vs 6000...14:25
mihalis68_1000 at the summit?14:27
emccormickSeems like there'd be 1000 Chinese at a minimum14:28
emccormickHow about we tweet for intent to attend the summit and interest in an Ops day there14:28
emccormickMaybe a doodle poll?14:28
mihalis68_that's a good idea14:28
emccormickThis all may be moot and better to just put off til a non-china summit if it's like 10 people14:29
shintaroI have the email address of Horace Li, a Foundation member in charge of APAC so I can ask him to promote within China community.14:29
emccormickOr like I said, lobby bar14:29
mihalis68_don't worry, we'll get to the lobby bar14:29
mihalis68_but I feel like we might get a good turnout14:29
mihalis68_we shouldn't assume from the get-go that we won't14:29
emccormick*nod*14:30
mihalis68_is doodle easy to drive?14:30
emccormickYeah I think it's super basic14:30
emccormickCould also just do a twitter poll too I guess14:31
mihalis68_we used survey monkey once, that was ok14:31
emccormickA) I'm going to the summit and would like an Ops day14:32
mihalis68_but all the stuff you really want is in the pay tiers14:32
emccormickB) I'm going to the summit, but an Ops day? Meh14:32
emccormickC) Not going.14:32
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mihalis68_this seems like a reasonable plan14:32
emccormickDoodle is just nice for being a one-pager and everyone can see everyone else's vote14:32
mihalis68_shall I do it from the ops account14:32
emccormickbut twitter is easier still14:33
emccormickYeah I think that'd be best14:33
mihalis68_#action mihalis68_ to put up a twitter poll about the possibility of an ops day at the next summit in shanghai14:33
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mihalis68_#topic 2020 meetups14:37
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mihalis68_any news on those?14:37
shintarono update14:38
emccormickSo we discussed maybe doing Europe next14:38
emccormickbut we need to talk to whoever it was that was offering a possible host.14:38
emccormickTrying now to remember who it was14:39
emccormicksimon-AS559 maybe had someone?14:39
emccormickblanking atm14:39
mihalis68_I can tell that everyone is a bit distracted/unprepared this week. I certainly am14:39
emccormickMaybe we need to go ahead and initiate the 2020 Call for Hosts14:39
mihalis68_shall we resolve to make next week a better one?14:40
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emccormickSounds super14:40
mihalis68_before we can call for hosts we would need consensus on regions14:40
emccormickI proposed Meetup #1 EU and Meetup #2 APAC14:41
emccormickso I guess anyone +1 or -1 that when you wake up :D14:41
shintaroI thought we agreed on that one14:41
emccormickI thought so too, but I dunno if we had quorum on it14:41
mihalis68_that's right, i was just reading scrollback. We are roughly in agreement to propose #1 EU, #2 APAC14:42
mihalis68_so we can issue a request for hosting14:42
mihalis68_that would be USA, EU, APAC in that order, which seems fine to me14:42
emccormickOK. I'll take on the etherpads and recycle the email I sent last time14:42
mihalis68_I know erik you've insisted that it was supposed to be NA every other one14:42
mihalis68_great14:42
emccormicknono I'm the one that suggested skipping one at least14:43
mihalis68_#action emccormick to start work on a call for hosting 2020 meetups, in the order EU, APAC14:43
emccormickWe can talk about longer term later14:43
emccormickbut for next year at least that'll put us on a better alternating schedule form the summits for the non NA ones14:43
mihalis68_yeah, ok. So nobody is trying to hold to that rule, so we're in agreement to the extent that this meeting represents the larger group of organisers14:43
shintarowe have possible host for APAC already from Korea14:43
mihalis68_right14:44
emccormickPretty stoked about that one. Korea will be all new for me14:44
mihalis68_think we've touched on all the main points this week14:44
mihalis68_so14:44
mihalis68_#topic any other business14:44
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mihalis68_I'm sure we're all trying to finish off before a long long weekend14:44
mihalis68_4 days for me!14:44
emccormickme too14:45
mihalis68_I'll email the minutes this week with a summary saying that we're tentatively agreed on that order of future meetups, as well as about to ask the community about an ops meetup at shanghai14:45
emccormickokie doke14:46
shintaro+1 thank you14:46
mihalis68_#action mihalis68_ to email the mailing list with this weeks minutes since a couple of important things were decided14:46
mihalis68_final call for input this week14:47
emccormickHave a nice long weekend for the US folks. For the rest, have fun at work suckers!14:47
mihalis68_hey now14:47
emccormick<314:47
emccormickhehe14:48
spotzTake care everyone14:48
shintaro:)14:48
mihalis68_have a nice weekend EVERYONE14:48
mihalis68_thanks all14:48
mihalis68_#endmeeting14:48
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mihalis68_fyi I am filling out the attendees post meeting since it shows that we had an ok turnout this week14:53
mihalis68_deciding things when it's me and a.n.other would be a bad look14:54
emccormickgracias14:57
mihalis68_actually a very good turnout if I include everyone who popped in14:59
mihalis68_and I do! :)15:00
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med_thanks mihalis68_15:08
med_sorry, hit or miss in here.15:08
med_I also see that the reivavl of os_ops repo is +2d by thierry15:09
med_looking for someone to claim and own it (to figure out where to revive it.)15:09
mihalis68_I should look at it, i'm really not that familiar with it15:17
mihalis68_twitter poll is up!15:20
mihalis68_https://twitter.com/osopsmeetup/status/114607612598836019715:20
mihalis68_retweet plz kthx15:21
mihalis68_:)15:21
mihalis68_and yes, that was fairly easy15:21
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