Tuesday, 2019-05-28

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med_\o13:59
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mihalis68_#startmeeting ops-meetup-team14:05
openstackMeeting started Tue May 28 14:05:51 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:05
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:05
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:05
mihalis68_sorry I'm late14:05
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'14:05
mihalis68_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team14:06
mihalis68_#topic actions14:06
*** openstack changes topic to "actions (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:06
mihalis68_I fwded the meeting minutes this morning and included a request to people to keep submitting topic ideas and adding +1 to others14:07
med_+1 ack saw it in my mail feed14:07
mihalis68_I haven't done the scenario planning for future mid-cycle and summit meetups14:08
mihalis68_had a prod issue sunday night into yesterday morning :|14:08
mihalis68_any other progress on actions to report?14:08
emccormickThat's no way to spend a holiday weekend14:08
mihalis68_well we're 24/7 so sometimes it's just my turn14:09
emccormickI mainly had it on my list to work on agenda things and I've not done anything in that area. Need to work on it this week14:09
mihalis68_if nothing else to report we can move on14:09
mihalis68_yeah, we need to get moving. The long stretch of time over the summer is an illusion - nothing gets done!14:10
med_truly14:10
emccormickThe conversation re: deployment tools has begun to gain a little steam again so we'll see where it leads before the meetup14:10
mihalis68_#topic NYC meetup sept 201914:10
*** openstack changes topic to "NYC meetup sept 2019 (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:10
mihalis68_I think it's time for me to get the eventbrite together14:10
mihalis68_I think that's the next stage which makes it seem real to people who are thinking of attending14:10
med_no fee or nominal fee? /me can't recall Bloomberg's positon on this14:10
emccormick+114:10
mihalis68_I did briefly consider using something else14:11
med_and indeed +1 eventbrite14:11
emccormickThe small fee was mainly to prevent spurious RSVPs14:11
med_nod14:11
emccormickI'm not sure what happens to the revenue though *heh*14:11
mihalis68_I think this one will have to be completely free14:11
med_nod, that's waht I thought was BB's policy14:12
emccormickI guess it goes to foundation staff helping us with design stuff14:12
emccormickfine with me for it to be free14:12
shintaroThe Foundation gave us some swag (T shirt) in Tokyo14:12
emccormickwe're not banging into the attendance limits like we used to14:12
mihalis68_#action mihalis68_ to start pulling together the eventbrite event for sept 201914:12
mihalis68_regarding the 1st night social, I happen to be going back to the place we used 3 years ago for a Bloomberg team leaders get together in a couple of weeks14:14
mihalis68_#link https://wearespin.com/14:14
mihalis68_so it seems we (Bloomberg) still like it14:14
mihalis68_unless there's a counter-proposal I thought I might actually mention it to the other NYC company that has reached out and said they want to help and see if they want to sponsor that14:15
med_+114:15
shintarois it a pingpong place?14:15
med_yep14:15
mihalis68_for anyone that didn't make it, it's a bar and grill at the edges and a big ping pong floor in the middle14:15
shintarothat was fun!14:15
mihalis68_with continuous supplies of pingbong balls in buckets14:15
mihalis68_and staff sweeping up the ones that go astray14:16
emccormickOh neat. Didn't realize they had 2 in NYC14:16
mihalis68_how do people feel about this considering the goals of fun but also inclusivity?14:16
emccormickI"m all for it. Let's get it sponsored if we can14:16
shintaro+114:17
mihalis68_Cool14:17
emccormickI think that's plenty inclusive. If others require different activities I'll bring cards and board games ;)14:17
mihalis68_#agreed try to get a night at wearespin sponsored for meetup attendees14:17
mihalis68_I guess there's not much more to say about september then14:18
mihalis68_just get on the planning doc and add your ideas14:18
mihalis68_or +1 ones already there14:18
shintarowill do14:18
emccormickJust added the info re: the deployment tools stuff to it14:18
mihalis68_once some winners start to emerge I will start forming topic etherpads and press-ganging some moderators14:18
mihalis68_#topic shanghai summit14:18
*** openstack changes topic to "shanghai summit (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:18
emccormickit's a discussion worth following for all of you prior to the meetup too14:18
mihalis68_we are looking into the idea of a dedicated ops day on "day 4" of the summit14:19
mihalis68_quotes because the summit is 3 days and then it's PTG14:19
med_nod14:19
med_+114:19
shintarothat would be great14:19
mihalis68_I think spotz brought it or will be bringing it to UC14:19
mihalis68_and I mentioned it to VW last week, and he is UC also14:19
mihalis68_spotz was here a few minutes ago, guess she's busy14:20
spotzI need to follow up with Erin, she was on vacation when I sent the original query to the foundation and they were going to forward it to her14:20
mihalis68_oops14:20
mihalis68_hi :)14:20
mihalis68_ok14:20
med_xlnt.14:20
spotzYeah always ping and I'll peek back in if I get distracted:)14:20
mihalis68_#action spotz to follow-up on the idea of an agreed ops day on day 1 of PTG in Shanghai, and ideally as a an agreed thing going forward14:21
mihalis68_any other thoughts about Shanghai? Who's going?14:21
emccormicko/14:21
shintaroI think I will. But not authorized yet.14:22
spotzmihalis68_: Poke sent14:22
med_unlikely to attend....14:22
med_but tbd14:22
mihalis68_cool. I have put in a request, again not cleared for it yet14:22
emccormickMy only thought has been we shouldn't take any success or failure of the ops day as indicative of how things will go at future events.14:22
emccormickI think Shanghai is going to be a fun aberation14:23
med_emccormick, because of the remoteness?14:23
med_nod14:23
emccormickyeah, I think the audience is going to be much different than normal14:23
shintaroagreed. We can use that day to promote OpsMeetups itself14:23
emccormickIt's still worth doing and maybe gets some mainland operators involved too14:23
mihalis68_it's a long way from some operators, but close to some others!14:23
emccormickones that may not have noticed us through the Great Firewall14:24
emccormickso even if it's a small crowd of new folks and then a few regulars, it will have been worth doing14:24
mihalis68_that brings up a thought : if we do have a day in Shanghai, I suggest we try to find someone local to be involved with organising early14:24
smcginnis++14:25
mihalis68_just in case we advertise an openstack ops meetup and instead of 55 get 30014:25
* smcginnis snuck in and read scrollback14:25
emccormick+114:25
mihalis68_that sean gets in everywhere14:25
mihalis68_:)14:25
mihalis68_any other comments about Shanghai?14:25
shintaroI think the Foundation had a new member who is in charge of APAC especially China. Maybe we can ask his support in getting local ops.14:26
mihalis68_that sounds good - share the name if you have it here or on the agenda?14:26
shintaroI forgot his name, but I can try to contact him.14:26
mihalis68_#action shintaro to get a name for OS foundation staffer in charge of APAC affairs14:27
smcginnisHorace or something like that.14:27
mihalis68_#topic 2020 meetups14:27
*** openstack changes topic to "2020 meetups (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:27
shintarosmcginnis, yes! That's him14:27
mihalis68_any news about possible meetups in 2020? I have an action to sketch out some scenarios so we can work out what order works best with region rotation of midcycles and summits14:28
shintaroI still need to make sure SKTelecom is still interested in hosting the OpsMeetup14:28
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emccormickand also if it matters to them if it's first or second14:29
shintaroI will ping him tomorrow.14:29
mihalis68_excellent14:29
mihalis68_seems we don't have much business today14:30
mihalis68_I am interested in the deployment tools debate, btw14:30
med_mihalis68_,  Looks like Bloomberg is near Grand Central Station.  Sound right? So lodging could be anywhere on a direct line.14:30
mihalis68_we're planning our roadmap currently14:30
mihalis68_yes I could throw a baseball from my desk here and hit the famous statue on GCT (assuming I could open a window)14:30
med_ack.14:31
mihalis68_just hoping the Avengers don't trash the place again14:31
mihalis68_god what a mess!14:31
med_:-)14:31
emccormickmed_ Could take the stupid S train from Times Square too14:31
emccormickhaha14:31
emccormickmmm Grand Central Oyster Bar14:31
mihalis68_yes, been there, and not even much of an oyster fan14:32
mihalis68_#topic any other business14:33
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emccormickNothing from me.14:33
shintaronone form me14:33
mihalis68_our twitter account is up to 71 followers14:33
mihalis68_my tweet earlier already has some likes14:34
mihalis68_this contrasts markedly with the complete lack of engagement with [ops] tagged posts to the email list14:34
mihalis68_so I'm going to continue using that as our main way of reaching out to operators14:35
mihalis68_please continue to retweet it to amplify it and spread the word14:35
mihalis68_and maybe forward to people you happen to know14:35
emccormickgetting better all the time14:35
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med_ack, will do.14:36
mihalis68_ok since it's a low volume day: last call14:36
emccormickSo jealous of all the CERN pics on twitter14:36
med_ditto14:36
smcginnisMe too!14:36
mihalis68_I think it's ok to have briefer meetings - these used to be every other week for a long time14:36
mihalis68_yes I wish I could have gone to cern14:36
mihalis68_shame there's isn't an SSC in texas with giant openstack farm14:37
emccormick*nod* short and sweet is good14:37
emccormickand Shintaro gets to go to bed sooner14:37
shintaro:)14:37
mihalis68_ok thanks everyone, gonna call it and get back to work14:37
med_thanks all.14:37
med_\o14:37
smcginnisThanks!14:37
mihalis68_#endmeeting14:38
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shintarothank you14:38
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