Tuesday, 2019-04-09

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mihalis68_ping spotz, emccormick, mrhillsman, med_, smcginnis14:02
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mihalis68_#startmeeting ops-meetup-team14:03
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  9 14:03:52 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:03
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:03
shintaroo/14:03
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'14:03
mihalis68_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team14:04
mihalis68_(I haven't put an agenda up yet)14:04
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spotzHey14:05
shintaroI have created an etherpad page for Forum Ops LT session and put it on the Forum wiki #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Denver201914:05
med_pong14:05
mihalis68_#topic actions14:05
*** openstack changes topic to "actions (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:05
mihalis68_I had an action to make a twitter account for ops notifications, that's done14:05
smcginnis\o/14:06
shintaromy action to create etherpad for Forum LT session #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DEN-ops-war-stories-LT14:06
smcginnis40 followers on that twitter account.14:06
med_I took an action to be social director for Summit/PTG. I need to know what nights most ops folks are in town (that are coming).14:06
mihalis68_see https://twitter.com/osopsmeetup?lang=en14:07
med_here: who's coming to Summit/PTG and which nights.14:07
* med_ is all week so will work around other's schedules14:07
med_Likely I'll just follow Erik's lead and do Wynkoop upper.14:08
mihalis68_the other overdue thing is an update on our possible hosting of a meetup in the summer/early autumn. I'm catching up with our guy who approves things this week14:08
mihalis68_that place was good14:08
spotzI’ll be there Sunday morning to Friday night14:08
shintaroI'll only attend the Summit/Forum but not during PTG14:09
med_thanks spotz14:09
med_thanks shintaro14:09
med_smcginnis, all week?14:09
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emccormicko/14:09
smcginnismed_: Yep, Saturday to Saturday for me.14:09
med_mrhillsman, all week? emccormick all week at Infra Summit and PTG14:09
emccormickI'm only there for the summit14:10
med_kk14:10
emccormickSunday - Thursday14:10
mihalis68_#topic denver14:10
*** openstack changes topic to "denver (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:10
med_that's probably enough data points. I'll look  for a Summit evening at Wynkoop14:10
med_so sounds like PTG for Ops is going to be ... sparse14:11
emccormickThere's a very large area upstairs with pool tables. As long as there's not a baseball game they're usually pretty empty up there they say14:11
* med_ will sit in Nova most likely14:11
med_emccormick, danke.14:11
mihalis68_just in case anyone is interested, I created that ops twitter, but shared credentials with a few ops meetups team members to ensure continuity. The style is strictly low-volume, highly relevant content only, encouraging all operators to follow who, perhaps, can't follow the mailing list14:12
mihalis68_it was nifty to be able to tweet about the CERN thing and Curtis' Collicutt's Toronto meetup14:13
mihalis68_as Sean says, 40 followers. Please share and amplify!14:13
emccormickprobably already a larger audience than the mailing list has been giving us ;)14:14
mihalis68_agreed14:14
med_#sadbuttrue14:14
mihalis68_if people want me to tweet out stuff from that account, you can fwd to me, I am happy to run it14:14
smcginnis#link https://twitter.com/osopsmeetup14:15
med_mihalis68_, when I settle on a data for Ops Beers, I'll tweet something and ask osopstwitter to retweet.14:15
emccormickI think sharing the local meetup things sometimes is good for drawing the local meetup groups into the global thing14:15
emccormicklet's keep that up14:15
emccormick+1 med_14:15
mihalis68_on the topic of PTG, it's unfortunate but the experiment of combining ops meetups into PTG was terminated without discussion with us14:15
emccormickoh, I thought we terminated it ;)14:16
emccormickor at least it was a mutual breakup due to lack of participation14:16
mihalis68_I provided feedback that it didn't work very well. I don't recall being asked for an opinion on PTG being merged back into summits14:16
mihalis68_I definitely do agree on tweeting out social reminders14:17
mihalis68_and local meetup stuffs14:17
spotzIt was during a board meeting I think14:17
mihalis68_right. NOTHING TO DO WITH OPERATORS GOT IT14:18
mihalis68_sorry to SHOUT, it's a bad habit from a different chat I'm on14:19
mihalis68_it's just... at this stage would it be a surprise to anyone that ops aren't going to PTG?14:19
spotzAnd I meant the PTG going back to Summit not ops14:19
mrhillsmani am going to only the summit14:19
mrhillsmanif anyone wants to attend ptg they can have my ticket14:20
smcginnisThere' wasn't a lot of request for feedback on the PTG going back to the Summit.14:20
mrhillsmanif not I'll hit up foundation and donate it14:20
mihalis68_perhaps this topic is already done to death14:21
mihalis68_any more on denver?14:21
mihalis68_#topic meetup 2 201914:23
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mihalis68_I am meeting with my colleague this week to discuss us hosting somethign but it looks like september 3 and 4 are pencilled in from what I see in the approval tickets14:24
mihalis68_venue would be my office, 120 Park Avenue, which is right by Grand Central14:24
smcginnisSounds great!14:25
mihalis68_if I understand it right, I can put in the hosting proposal etherpad soon14:25
mihalis68_we have a large audiovisual room and two breakouts, and lunch will be provided14:26
shintarolove to go back to NYC!14:26
mihalis68_again... this is not an offer this is what it looks like our offer will be if I understand correctly that it's cleared now14:26
smcginnisFingers crossed it all works out.14:26
smcginnisI think NYC would be a great location, geographically speaking, for a meetup.14:26
mihalis68_given previous meetups experience, I think we probably need to start working on it ASAP14:27
med_mihalis68_, fingers are crossed.14:27
med_(my fingers, for all of us)14:27
emccormickyes earlier the better14:28
smcginnis++14:28
emccormicksorry I've been terribly distracted today and missed a lot of Denver talk. We should get our forum etherpads set up ASAP. I'm going to try and get mine done by this weekend14:29
emccormickshintaro when you get the war stories one set up we can tweet that out14:29
mihalis68_the war stories etherpad is started, link above14:30
* med_ suspects when he sees an OsOps tweet about NYC Sept 3/4 it will be "real"14:30
shintaroyes it's ready14:30
emccormickoh sweet14:30
mihalis68_<shintaro> my action to create etherpad for Forum LT session #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DEN-ops-war-stories-LT14:30
mihalis68_the one thing I don't understand yet is "tickets". We can't charge for the meetup so it's going to be a little different. We do have a web based signup thing I think. That's what I have to discuss and understand14:31
spotzmihalis68_: We do a google form for events at Summit like speed mentoring so you have names and a count of people14:32
spotzYou could also just do a free ticket on eventbrite?14:32
mihalis68_yes I imagine I will be able to see attendees14:32
mihalis68_"registrees"?14:32
mihalis68_can't use evenbrite - this area I don't understand fully but they did say that14:32
emccormickerm what did you do last time?14:33
spotzOk so we could use a google form?14:33
emccormickor is it new policy?14:33
mihalis68_since last time, bloomberg has gotten much more into the open source community and now has its own sign-up system for events we host14:34
med_fair enough14:34
mihalis68_it's all built and in use, just not familiar to me14:34
emccormickah cool14:34
med_it's probably more open than Eventbrite is then.14:35
spotz+1 to Bloomberg!14:35
mihalis68_mmm, don't want to agree based on zero knowledge It's probably in effect a proprietary system (even if built with lots of open source)14:35
mihalis68_#topic any other business14:36
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mihalis68_think we covered everything14:36
mihalis68_I don't have much to add about denver obviously14:36
emccormicknothing new from me14:37
mihalis68_one random chore I'll try to take care of is I saw an email from Rico Lin asking for status on Ops Docs SIG14:37
emccormickand for event signup I don't care if it's proprietary14:37
mihalis68_I'll respond - there isn't much to report there since Sean set it up14:37
emccormickthere are limits to the open everything mantra ;)14:37
mihalis68_unfortunately - feel bad14:37
smcginnismihalis68_: Thanks, I haven't had time to respond to that.14:38
mihalis68_for those who don't follow (if anyone?) Ops Docs SIG is a threadbare SIG sufficient to hold ownership of the ops related docs we rescued from oblivion14:38
spotzWell and the fact the OPS doc SIG was really just for ownership of the repo more then being a separate group14:38
mihalis68_Sean got it up and running so that those docs can continue publishing into docs.openstack.org14:38
mihalis68_however the promised document updates are delayed14:38
emccormickOh, this does bring a tangential question to my mind14:39
emccormickthere's an ML thread about the powervm stuff which lead to a discussion of sigs with code repos14:39
emccormickops docs is there on the list that someone made, but neither that nor the others are code14:40
emccormickhowever there are all the osops-* ones14:40
mihalis68_ops docs are "code-like" - pull requests, merging, a build process...14:40
emccormickwho technically owns those these days? I see stuff get submitted once in a while, and someone's reviewing it when required.14:40
emccormickyeah the discussion was about actual python going into projects and getting deployed14:41
emccormickjust brought up to my mind those ospos things. I dunno who runs them anymore though. I thought it was kinda its own group but I dunno anymore14:42
emccormickhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Osops14:43
mihalis68_I've never looked at those, so can't offer any insight14:43
mihalis68_guess nobody knows14:44
emccormickoh well :)14:44
mihalis68_any other points from anyone? if not we can adjourn and clawback 15 minutes!14:45
emccormickanywho. Nothing else from me then14:45
med_2nd adjourn14:45
med_cheers!14:45
mihalis68_#endmeeting14:45
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smcginnisThanks all!14:45
mihalis68_thanks all14:45
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mihalis68_please do submit things for the twitter account. It feels like it's really working14:46
emccormickI'll be chatting to you all from the side of a lake next week14:46
emccormickshould be more relaxed an attentive ;)14:46
shintarothanks14:46
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smcginnisHave fun!14:47
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emccormickpage creator JJ Asghar14:48
emccormickLast editor mrhillsman14:49
emccormickA mere 2 years ago14:49
mrhillsmanneed me to do something emccormick14:52
mrhillsmansorry was tied up14:52
spotzThanks all sorry for the idle at the end!14:53
mihalis68_osops appears inactive. Last IRC meeting in sept 201614:53
emccormickhaha no14:57
emccormicktrying to figure out who owns those repos14:57
emccormickpeople still commit things to it14:58
emccormickperiodically I see commits announced on this IRC channel14:58
emccormickso I guess it has no formal management anymore14:58
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