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| mihalis68_ | spotz, emccormick, mrhillsman, med_, smcginnis, vw_ reminder, meeting in 15 minutes | 14:43 |
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| med_ | danke | 14:44 |
| VW_ | coolio | 14:44 |
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| smcginnis | Thanks | 14:47 |
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| med_ | silly question: where is the list of 13 suggested topics? I'm clueless. | 14:56 |
| mihalis68_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-ops-meetup | 14:57 |
| mihalis68_ | scroll down | 14:57 |
| mihalis68_ | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/IxMfteil/ | 14:58 |
| med_ | thanks | 14:58 |
| med_ | \o | 15:00 |
| mihalis68_ | #startmeeting ops-meetup-team | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68_: Looks like your nick got messed up under the participants list. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 12 15:00:39 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 15:00 |
| mihalis68_ | o/ | 15:00 |
| spotz | o/ | 15:00 |
| mihalis68_ | agenda: | 15:01 |
| mihalis68_ | #link #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 15:01 |
| emccormickva | o/ | 15:01 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic actions | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 15:01 | |
| mihalis68_ | we finished the eventbrite and got it to the mailing list. Well done us! | 15:01 |
| med_ | +1 | 15:01 |
| mihalis68_ | I also heard that a division of DT is picking up all the catering now, so that's "done" too | 15:01 |
| spotz | Yep so my job is done:) | 15:02 |
| mihalis68_ | I think the main thing to focus on is the topic selection, and we'll need to start making etherpads and locking in moderators | 15:02 |
| emccormickva | oo there's a med_ here! | 15:02 |
| mihalis68_ | to that end, I would also like to ask people to +1 topics already on the list that they would like to see on the agenda | 15:02 |
| VW_ | o/ | 15:02 |
| mihalis68_ | wow great turn out, thanks for turning up everyone | 15:02 |
| emccormickva | I went and threw in a few items. Been pondering a few others I'll try and get in there today. We need to do a push on the ML | 15:03 |
| mihalis68_ | tl;dr planning is going well, let's get the popular topics +1ed on the planning sheet, start some etherpads and lock in some moderators | 15:03 |
| emccormickva | like every few days spamalot | 15:03 |
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| mihalis68_ | I am suggesting several topics and if they receive support will start the etherpad and put myself forward as moderator for those | 15:03 |
| VW_ | sure thing. I'm behind, but will pitch "the bring your unfinished forum etherpads to the topic selection" idea | 15:03 |
| shintaro | hi | 15:04 |
| mihalis68_ | weren't you going to mail the dev teams? | 15:04 |
| mihalis68_ | hi shintaro | 15:04 |
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| emccormick | Stupid client renaming me :P | 15:04 |
| VW_ | yeah mihalis68_ - I just got behind on those things | 15:04 |
| VW_ | so, catching up | 15:04 |
| mihalis68_ | happens to us all. We're launching our new product today it seems | 15:04 |
| mihalis68_ | openstack rocky based! | 15:04 |
| spotz | Congrats! | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | Well, that's better than queens. :) | 15:05 |
| shintaro | Rocky! wow | 15:05 |
| emccormick | omg you'll be ahead of me! | 15:05 |
| emccormick | Need to go push my upgrade button. Can't let that stand | 15:05 |
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| med_ | congrats and condolences mihalis68_ | 15:05 |
| emccormick | Besides agenda we need to do some promo | 15:06 |
| emccormick | It may just be me, but it feels like the whole run-up to this has been very quiet | 15:06 |
| mihalis68_ | eh no need for condolences, it's a soft launch - people can ask to get on the one built cluster for testing. It's not going live in prod | 15:06 |
| emccormick | Could use some tweetage from the foundation | 15:06 |
| mihalis68_ | agreed | 15:06 |
| emccormick | and any of you with lots of followers | 15:06 |
| mihalis68_ | we are finally at the point where I feel good about what we have to show | 15:07 |
| mihalis68_ | eventbrite: check. Will there be food? check. Content? Check | 15:07 |
| spotz | emccormick: The run-up to the Berlin summit was quiet too | 15:07 |
| emccormick | I even have a plane ticket now, so at least one member of this team. check | 15:07 |
| emccormick | ;) | 15:07 |
| emccormick | *nod* it was, so let's make some noise :) | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | I'm sad I'm going to miss this one. | 15:08 |
| mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68_ to tweet about the meetup to his *mighty phalanx* of twitter followers | 15:09 |
| mihalis68_ | #action smcginnis also tweet | 15:09 |
| mihalis68_ | etc | 15:09 |
| shintaro | I am still working for myself but I will be sending two of my team members. | 15:09 |
| mihalis68_ | great | 15:09 |
| emccormick | ok, I volunteer to send out the email nag re: agenda planning | 15:10 |
| mihalis68_ | I haven't booked yet, but will do so | 15:10 |
| emccormick | action me up | 15:10 |
| emccormick | OF course you haven't mihalis68_ | 15:10 |
| mihalis68_ | #action emccormick to email the discuss list about agenda planning | 15:10 |
| emccormick | you're Mr. Last Minute | 15:10 |
| emccormick | shintaro You gotta come! Get ye on a plane. | 15:10 |
| shintaro | :) thanks emccormick | 15:11 |
| mihalis68_ | can someone volunteer to ask the foundation for publicity for this event? | 15:11 |
| emccormick | Also re: Berlin, Frank posted a list of options for an evening event and suggested a pole on the first day | 15:11 |
| mihalis68_ | someone with connections | 15:12 |
| * smcginnis looks at spotz | 15:12 | |
| emccormick | spotz *nudge* | 15:12 |
| mihalis68_ | yes, and being german, he emphatically pointed out that they all need reservations. Very proper and organised | 15:12 |
| emccormick | a poll too | 15:12 |
| emccormick | haha smcginnis | 15:12 |
| spotz | Oh yeah I can ask them to tweet | 15:12 |
| mihalis68_ | a pole? What kind of place are you think... ok never mind | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | Oh boy. :D | 15:12 |
| emccormick | It's Germany. No doubt that's an option :P | 15:12 |
| spotz | Yeah we ran into the no reservation thing a few times | 15:13 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm sleep-deprived. If that was too off-color I apologise | 15:13 |
| spotz | So we had the incredible growing reservation for the OSA outing:) | 15:13 |
| emccormick | not at all ;) | 15:13 |
| emccormick | Cinder and Friends as well | 15:13 |
| mihalis68_ | #action spotz to get the foundation to more marketing of the berlin event now that it's solidifying | 15:14 |
| emccormick | I'll look over what Frank posted and see if I can weed some out. | 15:14 |
| med_ | smcginnis, thanks for your TC service. Enjoy your upcoming respite from it. | 15:14 |
| mihalis68_ | hear, hear! | 15:14 |
| mihalis68_ | but I don't believe smcginnis will get a "respite" isn't he on the board now? | 15:15 |
| emccormick | At the summit we discussed nagging the big kids to send people to these meetups too | 15:15 |
| mihalis68_ | the dev teams? | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! :) | 15:15 |
| emccormick | Does anyone have special pull with the likes of OVH, Vexxhost, CERN, etc to get them to send people? | 15:15 |
| mihalis68_ | was going to say Simon, but he's SWITCH | 15:16 |
| med_ | "special pull" value: zero for med | 15:16 |
| emccormick | mnaser should come, or send a proxy | 15:16 |
| emccormick | maybe that lit up his IRC ;) | 15:17 |
| mihalis68_ | last "meetup" (at PTG) we concluded our process was lax. I would like to suggest that we have the proposal list and then an approved topics list. To get from one to the other, a session idea should have some number of +1s and a confirmed moderator. Thoughts? | 15:17 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 15:17 |
| mihalis68_ | and I guess a proposer shouldn't approve their own suggestions | 15:18 |
| mihalis68_ | hi mrhillsman | 15:18 |
| spotz | I know mnaser I'm not sure that's pull:) | 15:18 |
| emccormick | I think in the past we just did the top x number based on how many slots we had | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68_: That sounds like a good plan. | 15:18 |
| mihalis68_ | alright | 15:18 |
| med_ | I think that's sound mihalis68_ . Can non attendees +1? Or is that out of bounds? | 15:18 |
| emccormick | The problem with the last one was we didn't have enough suggestions in advance | 15:18 |
| * med_ has voted twice | 15:18 | |
| emccormick | For Denver we basically dumped the whole etherpad into the schedule | 15:19 |
| emccormick | even with a half day of upgrade talk we ended up with some idle time | 15:19 |
| mihalis68_ | yes that's true, but I stopped begging for suggestions when I could "fill the boxes". I realised that's not good enough | 15:19 |
| emccormick | Anyone can suggest topics and +1 | 15:19 |
| emccormick | We encourage it | 15:19 |
| mihalis68_ | med_ if there are people who are that interested but can't make it, I don't see a problem | 15:19 |
| med_ | kk. I'll leave my votes intact. | 15:20 |
| mihalis68_ | in a sense people such as med_ and smcginnis_ may be more valuable than a "random attendee" given their illustrious openstack careers (and I'm not being sarcastic) | 15:20 |
| med_ | I was wearing my "think like an Ops person" hat when I +1d | 15:20 |
| emccormick | smcginnis can post things too even though he can't make it *poke* | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | Heh | 15:20 |
| mihalis68_ | I know it's not true, but in my imagination sean can't make berlin because snow | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | If this keeps up, I'm not going to be able to go anywhere. | 15:21 |
| emccormick | Doors frozen shut? | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | Not that bad. Anymore. | 15:22 |
| * med_ understands the northwest became a skating rink recently | 15:22 | |
| mihalis68_ | heavy snow here right now also | 15:22 |
| mihalis68_ | I guess we drifted deep into #topic berlin | 15:23 |
| mihalis68_ | any more to say on that? | 15:23 |
| mihalis68_ | I do hope VW_ hooks us up with unfinished business that people want to carry on with from past events | 15:23 |
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| VW_ | gonna try | 15:23 |
| mihalis68_ | he and other TC | 15:23 |
| mihalis68_ | thanks! | 15:23 |
| VW_ | sorry - was dual meeting there for a minute | 15:23 |
| VW_ | catching up on all the above | 15:23 |
| mihalis68_ | seems like my process proposal is approved or at least not opposed | 15:24 |
| mihalis68_ | shall I add it to the team wiki page? | 15:24 |
| emccormick | Anyone that's able take a look at forum and last ops meetup etherpads and see if there's anytihng there that bears further discussion | 15:24 |
| med_ | ayes have it. Proposed topics need a +1 and a moderator to survive the cut. | 15:24 |
| emccormick | Deployment tools talk was one from Denver that should probably move forward | 15:24 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm thinking that ideally if someone has a topic and will moderate they mail the list with the etherpad and if they get +1s on the etherpad or in email reply someone else then adds it to the approved topic list? | 15:24 |
| mihalis68_ | I made an etherpad of actions stemming from denver somewhere | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | Was that maybe posted to the mailing list? | 15:25 |
| mihalis68_ | possibly. | 15:26 |
| mihalis68_ | I'll dig it out and reshare | 15:26 |
| med_ | I think blatant begging for eyes on the etherpad on the openstack-discuss list (including that selection criteria) needs to happen. I can be the blatant beggar or reiterate if anyone else does that. | 15:26 |
| mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68_ to find and re-share outstanding actions list from denver | 15:26 |
| spotz | That's my one problem with etherpads, I sometimes lose them:( | 15:26 |
| emccormick | I think it was on the feedback one at the end? | 15:26 |
| med_ | +1 to etherpad loss. | 15:26 |
| med_ | I will read scrollback here later. Meeting time fo rme. Ciao! | 15:27 |
| mihalis68_ | yeah could be emccormick. Wherever that list is I'll reshare. We can preserve etherpads only with a dense crisscrossed network of links ... on other etherpads | 15:27 |
| mihalis68_ | thanks med_ | 15:27 |
| shintaro | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-denver-2018-further-work | 15:27 |
| mihalis68_ | that's the one! | 15:28 |
| mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68_ to record the process improvement on the ops meetups team wiki page for posterity. | 15:29 |
| mihalis68_ | there's no news on the next meetup, our tentative dates are 9/3 9/4 and that's all I have | 15:30 |
| mihalis68_ | also no news on ops docs because I haven't touched them for a while | 15:30 |
| mihalis68_ | so... | 15:30 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic any other business | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "any other business (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 15:30 | |
| VW_ | one thing | 15:31 |
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| emccormick | I have a bunch of edits in progress but incomplete. Usual ADHD problems | 15:31 |
| VW_ | we are looking for candidates for the UC | 15:31 |
| emccormick | saw a squirrel and forgot to go back to it | 15:31 |
| VW_ | we are pretty sure we have two, but we need at least three. If any of you ever had interest, now is a good time | 15:31 |
| emccormick | I nominate mihalis68_ | 15:32 |
| emccormick | :D | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | A lot of good potential candidates here. | 15:32 |
| VW_ | ++ | 15:32 |
| shintaro | +1 for mihalis68_ | 15:32 |
| VW_ | the downside is you have to put up with me | 15:32 |
| emccormick | What are in-person attendance requirements? | 15:32 |
| mihalis68_ | deal's off | 15:32 |
| mihalis68_ | ha ha ha | 15:32 |
| emccormick | Just summits? | 15:32 |
| VW_ | we have a weekly meeting in IRC | 15:33 |
| VW_ | and yes, we try to get folks to the summits - usually a day early for the board meeting | 15:33 |
| emccormick | mostly wondering about Travel requirements if there's any additional | 15:33 |
| VW_ | but there have been folks that have not made summits and have still contributed | 15:33 |
| mihalis68_ | I can't say if I could do that, however I'll read the charter or whatever if it's written down | 15:33 |
| VW_ | sure - one second | 15:33 |
| emccormick | Oh, did I miss meetup 2 discussions? | 15:34 |
| VW_ | #link https://governance.openstack.org/uc/reference/charter.html | 15:34 |
| emccormick | I saw you had proposed dates. Does that mean Bloomberg is a go? | 15:34 |
| VW_ | #link https://governance.openstack.org/uc/reference/uc-election-feb2019.html | 15:34 |
| spotz | grr setting up new machines suck! | 15:35 |
| mihalis68_ | bloomberg isn't a "go" but we can have some rooms on those dates which is a start | 15:35 |
| smcginnis | There was also the OpenStack Days CERN scheduled in May that some folks might be interested in. | 15:36 |
| mihalis68_ | yes erik when you miss meetings you miss stuff | 15:36 |
| mihalis68_ | oh wait did I type that and not just think that? Oops | 15:36 |
| emccormick | hehe | 15:37 |
| emccormick | :D | 15:37 |
| VW_ | ok - email sent mihalis68_ | 15:37 |
| mihalis68_ | cool | 15:37 |
| VW_ | I'll see what other channels I can chase down | 15:37 |
| mihalis68_ | great | 15:37 |
| mihalis68_ | for the record working with VW is great and I withdraw all that stuff I wrote about him just before he joined (see above) | 15:37 |
| mihalis68_ | he he | 15:37 |
| VW_ | I'll also remind you guys to see if we can take one or two sessions in Berlin and have the outcome be a forum proposal for a future summit | 15:38 |
| mihalis68_ | yep | 15:38 |
| VW_ | timing probably won't work for Denver | 15:38 |
| mihalis68_ | so china then? | 15:38 |
| shintaro | When is the Forum proposal for Denver? | 15:39 |
| smcginnis | Officially SHanghai in case anyone missed that. | 15:39 |
| mnaser | is there an official schedule/website for the event? | 15:39 |
| VW_ | perhaps mihalis68_ - let me see what I can work out | 15:39 |
| spotz | forum selection process will start soon, so I suspect the call for sessions in the next week or so | 15:40 |
| emccormick | mnaser Hi! Yes a few things. There's an eventbrite and a planning etherpad. Hang on. | 15:40 |
| VW_ | if I can reserve a slot for the UC, it would be cool to carry a conversation straight from the meetup to the forum | 15:40 |
| mihalis68_ | for berlin? https://www.eventbrite.com/e/openstack-ops-meetup-berlin-tickets-55034908894 | 15:40 |
| smcginnis | VW_: ++ | 15:40 |
| shintaro | mnaser Shanghai Summit will be on the week of 4th Nov | 15:40 |
| shintaro | thanks spotz :) | 15:41 |
| VW_ | alright folks, I hate to drop early, but I need to step away from the keybaord | 15:42 |
| mihalis68_ | think we're close to done | 15:42 |
| mihalis68_ | any more for any more? | 15:42 |
| VW_ | ping me directly or drop me an email if you need anything | 15:42 |
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| emccormick | mnaser main etherpad is right there in the eventbrite. Schedule planning is part way down | 15:42 |
| emccormick | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-ops-meetup | 15:42 |
| emccormick | Thanks VW | 15:42 |
| spotz | Oh one thing, just a reminder UC nominations are open if anyone is interested in running | 15:43 |
| mihalis68_ | yes VW_ brought it up earleir | 15:43 |
| emccormick | spotz Yep, VW_ was nagging..err...nudging us earlier :) | 15:43 |
| spotz | cool, one of the setup issues I'm having is dropped network:( | 15:44 |
| mihalis68_ | ok last call and I'll close this out | 15:44 |
| mihalis68_ | good luck with that network spotz | 15:45 |
| mihalis68_ | #endmeeting | 15:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Topics related to operating OpenStack infrastructure | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/" | 15:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 12 15:45:25 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:45 |
| mihalis68_ | thanks all | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-02-12-15.00.html | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-02-12-15.00.txt | 15:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-02-12-15.00.log.html | 15:45 |
| smcginnis | Thanks mihalis68_ | 15:45 |
| mihalis68_ | personal plea to get moving on the above actions | 15:45 |
| mihalis68_ | I feel like this can be a vintage ops meetup | 15:45 |
| mihalis68_ | just need to magic up a *good* topic list with moderators | 15:46 |
| emccormick | I hope so! | 15:46 |
| mihalis68_ | with german beer expected later, I can moderate all day long practically | 15:46 |
| mihalis68_ | but it's better to have diversity | 15:46 |
| smcginnis | :) | 15:46 |
| emccormick | hehe | 15:47 |
| emccormick | spotz IF the OSA IRC channel is active, you might want to drop a note about the meetup there as well. I just did that on the Kolla channel | 15:47 |
| spotz | mihalis68_: Might have it will need to let machine sleep to test | 15:47 |
| emccormick | lots of people don't seem to pay attention to the ML very well | 15:47 |
| spotz | Okie | 15:47 |
| shintaro | emccormick thank you for connecting Sampath to the Foundation :) | 15:47 |
| emccormick | No problem. Always happy to forward emails around ;) | 15:48 |
| mihalis68_ | finishing early suits me today, have actual in person meeting elsewhere, so TTYL | 15:48 |
| emccormick | I'm management material | 15:48 |
| emccormick | Have a good one! | 15:48 |
| shintaro | see you all | 15:49 |
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| spotz | Ok channel spammed:) | 15:49 |
| mihalis68_ | thx | 15:50 |
| spotz | Can we add it to this channel's topic? | 15:50 |
| spotz | If no one here has permissions I bet fungi could do it for us | 15:50 |
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| emccormick | that's a good idea | 15:55 |
| emccormick | I have no power here though. I think smcginnis does | 15:55 |
| smcginnis | I don't in this channel. It's set per channel, so I have power in some and not in others. | 15:56 |
| smcginnis | fungi or someone from infra probably can help. Or give some of us the power to do it. | 15:57 |
| spotz | Yeah I have it for diversity and woo but just those 2 | 16:00 |
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| spotz | Ok tewweted about the meetup | 16:59 |
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| emccormick | Thanks spotz! | 17:17 |
| spotz | no prob emccormick, I also tagged @openstack in it so they should retweet from there | 17:18 |
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