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| spotz | whee I'm actually early! | 14:57 |
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| mihalis68_ | I’m running late | 15:02 |
| shintaro | hi | 15:02 |
| mihalis68_ | I won’t be at my desk until 10 past or so | 15:03 |
| shintaro | we'll have more people by then :) | 15:03 |
| spotz | Whee! | 15:04 |
| spotz | I'll go riding after this meeting:) | 15:05 |
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| shintaro | hi spotz. waiting for mihalis68_ to get to his desk | 15:06 |
| mihalis68_ | hi | 15:07 |
| spotz | shintaro: No prob, I was actually early today cause I haven't gone to the barn yet:) I'm usually the last to get here | 15:07 |
| mihalis68_ | I didn't do an agenda update for today yet | 15:07 |
| spotz | Go for it now mihalis68_, we're still short for any type of quorum | 15:07 |
| spotz | I'm not sure I'm official anyways for quorum:) | 15:08 |
| shintaro | I wrote a skeleton for the agenda | 15:08 |
| mihalis68_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 15:08 |
| mihalis68_ | #startmeeting ops-meetup-team | 15:09 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 22 15:09:08 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:09 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 15:09 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 15:09 |
| mihalis68_ | hello sorry for the delay in starting | 15:09 |
| mihalis68_ | #link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 15:09 |
| mihalis68_ | thanks to shintaro for sketching out the agenda today. | 15:09 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic actions | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 15:09 | |
| spotz | I think aprice has everything she needs for Eventbrite including the link to the planning etherpad | 15:10 |
| spotz | I think we just need to let her know when we're ready? | 15:10 |
| mihalis68_ | I was just scanning for last weeks minutes. Not many actions | 15:12 |
| mihalis68_ | I haven't started the document for the technical agenda | 15:12 |
| mihalis68_ | that's not too urgent yet | 15:12 |
| mihalis68_ | I don't see any progress on the planning etherpad, however : #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-ops-meetup | 15:13 |
| mihalis68_ | any other comments on past actons | 15:13 |
| mihalis68_ | actions? | 15:13 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic berlin meetup march 2019 | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "berlin meetup march 2019 (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 15:13 | |
| mihalis68_ | spotz what constitutes "ready" in that context? | 15:13 |
| spotz | mihalis68_: All information she needs, dates, price, location. We might need a brief write up but not requested yet | 15:14 |
| spotz | If anyone needs a cheap clean, family hotel. I stayed near the Zoo for Summit and can add that as a hotel option on the planning page | 15:15 |
| mihalis68_ | dates, price and location are fairly known I believe | 15:15 |
| spotz | mihalis68_: Yep so she's basically ready to go:) | 15:15 |
| spotz | She has all that info | 15:15 |
| mihalis68_ | I do think we haven't quite finalised the content even from a high-level. I asked Frank if they (the hosts) wish to have a special-topic track and/or put specific issues from their point of view on the agenda, he didn't seem to have any thoughts on that | 15:16 |
| mihalis68_ | this is apropos because the eventbrite should have info on tracks if there are more than one | 15:16 |
| shintaro | Maybe we can start the agenda brainstorming while we keep some slots for DT. | 15:16 |
| spotz | +1 I think that's a good plan Shintaro, we have the rooms for it | 15:17 |
| mihalis68_ | +1 yes | 15:18 |
| mihalis68_ | it's not something we have formalised in the past, but I think we should do that | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Good idea. | 15:18 |
| mihalis68_ | how many? | 15:18 |
| spotz | Rooms? I thought he said 1 larger one and 2 smaller? | 15:19 |
| spotz | hey smcginnis | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | Hey spotz o/ | 15:20 |
| mihalis68_ | no, slots | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | Maybe 3-4 slots? | 15:20 |
| mihalis68_ | they have a meeting hall and 3 other rooms | 15:20 |
| mihalis68_ | 4 slots could allow for 1 per 1/2 day | 15:21 |
| mihalis68_ | like a morning and an afternoon slot each day at the direction of the host | 15:21 |
| spotz | Depending on how much content (attendance) put aside one smaller one as a quiet/work room? Considering we're talking ops for attendees and they might have emergencies | 15:21 |
| mihalis68_ | true, although people tend to be on their corporate email and slack channels during working sessions anyway | 15:23 |
| spotz | That's a given, I was thinking more the prodiction is down emergencies:) | 15:24 |
| spotz | I can spell really... | 15:24 |
| mihalis68_ | I think we need to get moving on a rough agenda soonish. It becomes a chicken and egg problem where without any idea what it's about, people don't know if they should go | 15:24 |
| mihalis68_ | I can have a go at pulling sessions that I thought did really well in previous meetups forward as a first approximation | 15:25 |
| mihalis68_ | thoughts? | 15:25 |
| shintaro | it's a good idea to have a starting list and people can add their idea to the lit | 15:25 |
| shintaro | list | 15:25 |
| shintaro | or +1s | 15:26 |
| mihalis68_ | ok. I hate to give the impression I can just organise this, though. That will lead to disappoinment | 15:26 |
| mihalis68_ | I'll do something but everyone should pitch in then | 15:26 |
| mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68_ to get the topic list into a rough first approximation shape, enough to whet people's appetites | 15:26 |
| shintaro | +1 | 15:26 |
| spotz | Having only attended Denver, I like the idea of putting in what's worked as a start and ew can always update them to seem fresh | 15:27 |
| mihalis68_ | Frank did provide a list of sponsorship opportunities | 15:27 |
| mihalis68_ | coffee/tea/soft drinks: 370 Euro per set (2 sets required for a day) | 15:27 |
| mihalis68_ | sandwiches: 350 Euro | 15:27 |
| mihalis68_ | 6 sorts of soup: 400 Euro | 15:27 |
| mihalis68_ | I can try to get approval to pick up coffee both days | 15:27 |
| mihalis68_ | these are very reasonable amounts, what I don't know yet is who to pay. If it's DT that may be difficult | 15:28 |
| spotz | oohh, has anyone reached out to Syseleven? They were the German public cloud company with the hoodies:) | 15:28 |
| mihalis68_ | for some other events I directly paid a catering supplier with my corporate amex, that worked for my employer | 15:28 |
| mihalis68_ | reaching out to the european community in general is sorely needed | 15:28 |
| spotz | Ok let me see if I can do some thing this afternoon or tomorrow as I have the time. I'll see if anyone has a card from Syseleven and also reach out to Tobias and Frank | 15:30 |
| mihalis68_ | that would be great | 15:30 |
| mihalis68_ | #action spotz to pick up the conversation about the berlin meetup with european colleagues frank k, tobias r, people from syseleven | 15:30 |
| spotz | I'll run a draft by the group most like;y before sending it out | 15:31 |
| mihalis68_ | spotz has the UC discussed this meetup yet? I was asked to pull them into the agenda planning when we spoke in denver | 15:31 |
| spotz | mihalis68_: It was just VW and I yesterday so we didn;t officially meet. We just discussed todos for the UC election, cause I can't do it if I'm re-running | 15:32 |
| spotz | So I'll ping the group vis email or the user list and see what we can get going there if you like | 15:33 |
| mihalis68_ | Ok. Guess I should rough out something ASAP and then try to spark interest with UC folks as well as the operators via the mailing list | 15:33 |
| spotz | Sounds like a plan | 15:33 |
| mihalis68_ | the next two agenda items are meetup #2 and then ops docs, but I don't have anything to report. I am reminded that I did say I'd capture the steps to get a dev environment up for ops docs build/test. I will do that | 15:34 |
| mihalis68_ | I do have something for AOB, though, unless there's more on past actions or berlin | 15:35 |
| mihalis68_ | ? | 15:35 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic any other business | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "any other business (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 15:35 | |
| mihalis68_ | So, congratulations to ops meetups team member smcginnis on being elected an individual director of the foundation! | 15:36 |
| mihalis68_ | the concerning thing, however, is that the announcement of the winners did not go to the voters! | 15:36 |
| shintaro | congrats! smcginnis | 15:36 |
| mihalis68_ | from what I can find out, it only went to the [openstack foundation] mailing list | 15:36 |
| mihalis68_ | which I didn't even know about | 15:36 |
| shintaro | I didn't know that | 15:37 |
| mihalis68_ | I figured "oh there's still lots I don't know" and asked emccormick who has been doing openstack a lot longer than me | 15:37 |
| mihalis68_ | he only knew because of a random tweet | 15:37 |
| mihalis68_ | so I suggest this needs rethinking | 15:37 |
| mihalis68_ | I can't understand why votes weren't emailed the results | 15:38 |
| mihalis68_ | anyone else have thoughts on this? | 15:38 |
| mihalis68_ | spotz? | 15:38 |
| shintaro | it should be on the openstack-discuss ml too, which I will notice. | 15:38 |
| spotz | Let me go look at the email a sec | 15:38 |
| mihalis68_ | sean did confirm what I said above | 15:39 |
| spotz | Yep it sis only go to the foundation list, I'm nost sure if it could be sent diredtly to the voters easily as that would reveal who voted:( | 15:40 |
| mihalis68_ | well the system sent all members a voting link. Why can't it send the results to everyone that was sent a link? | 15:40 |
| spotz | Board related things are sent primarily to that list like D&I emails go there as we report directly to the board but I do send some stuff out to other lists as well | 15:41 |
| spotz | mihalis68_: I think thaty might be more a fungi or Jimmy question | 15:41 |
| mihalis68_ | it was an individual email to each member. The results being sent that way expose nothing AFAICT | 15:41 |
| spotz | I do think while it is board related it wouldn't have been a bad thing to send the same thing to the discuss list at the least | 15:41 |
| mihalis68_ | don't you see the weird asymmetry? | 15:42 |
| mihalis68_ | "here is your private voting link, don't share" | 15:42 |
| spotz | mihalis68_: That is sent from the voting system, which is why I'm not sure a closeout of elections can resend | 15:42 |
| mihalis68_ | and then the results go to ... some mailing list? | 15:42 |
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| spotz | mihalis68_: No I agree I don't see why it shouldn't have gone to the discuss list as well | 15:42 |
| mihalis68_ | Hi Jimmy | 15:42 |
| spotz | I'm on so many I don't often notice where something came from | 15:43 |
| mihalis68_ | I brought up the individual director electon because although I got the voting link (and voted) I never saw the results | 15:43 |
| mihalis68_ | it's weirdly asymmetrical to say the least | 15:43 |
| smcginnis | Sorry, I had to step away for a minute. Thanks everyone! :) | 15:43 |
| smcginnis | I agree, would be nice to send the results to everyone that voted. | 15:43 |
| mihalis68_ | or everyone who could have voted | 15:44 |
| spotz | Or the community as a whole if it couldn't be narrowed down | 15:44 |
| mihalis68_ | yeah, such as, say, the recently merged single mailing list | 15:44 |
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| mihalis68_ | well, I guess if nobody has any more comments on that we may be done | 15:47 |
| mihalis68_ | any other comments on anything else? | 15:47 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I gotta run. Thanks everyone. | 15:48 |
| mihalis68_ | thanks all | 15:48 |
| mihalis68_ | #endmeeting | 15:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Topics related to operating OpenStack infrastructure | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/" | 15:48 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 22 15:48:39 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-01-22-15.09.html | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-01-22-15.09.txt | 15:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-01-22-15.09.log.html | 15:48 |
| shintaro | thank you all | 15:48 |
| spotz | Thanks everyone | 15:49 |
| med_ | feels like monday but was apparently tuesday. Sorry I missed y'all. | 15:49 |
| med_ | reading scrollback now | 15:49 |
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| med_ | just missed the end apparently. Apologies. | 15:53 |
| med_ | spotz, does Foundation still need a UC election committee lackee? I could volunteer to lackee. | 15:53 |
| * med_ goes looking for email on that. | 15:54 | |
| spotz | med_: We did just get a second volunteer but I had three the election before so if you'd like to do it feel free to respond to VW | 15:54 |
| med_ | looks like ... jinx | 15:54 |
| * med_ just found the email | 15:54 | |
| med_ | I'll drop VW a note. | 15:55 |
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