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| mihalis68_ | ping spotz, emccormick, mrhillsman, med_, smcginnis | 14:26 |
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| mihalis68_ | meeting in ~35 minutes | 14:27 |
| smcginnis | Thanks mihalis68_ | 14:28 |
| mihalis68_ | smcginnis did you make the planning etherpad? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-ops-meetup | 14:31 |
| mihalis68_ | thanks to whoever did | 14:31 |
| smcginnis | Oh, yeah, that was me. :) | 14:31 |
| mihalis68_ | that's really good, since I had an action to do it but did not | 14:32 |
| mihalis68_ | today's agenda : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:32 |
| smcginnis | Glad I can take something of your todo list. ;) | 14:32 |
| smcginnis | *off | 14:32 |
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| mihalis68_ | I emailed the etherpad link to those on the UC that I happen to have an email address for. We resolved in Denver to team up with UC to get better content and continuity | 14:37 |
| mihalis68_ | something I put on the agenda, please everyone remember to vote. Also I'd point out there are two great candidates on the ops meetups team! (not me I should add) | 14:42 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:46 |
| mihalis68_ | dammit. The email I have for VW is the rackspace one | 14:53 |
| mihalis68_ | #startmeeting ops-meetup-team | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 15 15:00:18 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 15:00 |
| mihalis68_ | agenda #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 15:00 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic actions | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 15:00 | |
| mihalis68_ | we notified the community of the date and place, got the etherpad started, sent that link to the UC, and also notified the foundation staff (jimmy) that the PTG verbiage needs updating | 15:01 |
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| mihalis68_ | those were the main actions | 15:01 |
| mihalis68_ | any other actions to report on? | 15:01 |
| shintaro | hi | 15:01 |
| mihalis68_ | hi | 15:01 |
| mihalis68_ | just asking for any updates on actions | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | Hey shintaro o/ | 15:01 |
| mihalis68_ | o/ | 15:01 |
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| spotz | Morning all | 15:02 |
| mihalis68_ | hey | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | Howdy spotz | 15:02 |
| mihalis68_ | just asking for any updates on past actions | 15:02 |
| shintaro | hi spotz | 15:02 |
| mihalis68_ | we run on the honor system | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | If I had any past actions, I've already forgotten them. :) | 15:03 |
| spotz | I contacted the foundation, I’ll be working with a price on the invite. We do need to know the location as she needs the address | 15:03 |
| mihalis68_ | spotz i fwded the link to the UC email addresses that I have, because we had previously agreed that UC could help curate the topic list | 15:03 |
| spotz | Yep I saw that | 15:03 |
| mihalis68_ | I'll press Frank Kloeker for a decision on which venue | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | spotz: I believe we did lock down which of the two locations now. | 15:03 |
| mihalis68_ | I think we all like the post office | 15:03 |
| mihalis68_ | oh did I miss an update? | 15:04 |
| shintaro | is it on the planning etherpad? | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | Oh, maybe I assumed? Based on the last email thread, Frank was asked which of the two he would prefer since they were equally good. He said the one might be better for him so I thought we were going with that one. | 15:04 |
| spotz | I thought we all liked the post office but they needed to confirm | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | Dernburgstrasse 50 was the one that sounded better for Frank. | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | Or at least slightly more convenient. | 15:05 |
| med_ | \o | 15:06 |
| shintaro | I think I missed the thread but post office sounds interesting. | 15:06 |
| mihalis68_ | I just emailed him again asking if they have decided | 15:06 |
| mihalis68_ | hi med_ | 15:07 |
| spotz | Yeah he’s currently working out of the post office | 15:07 |
| mihalis68_ | still on actions here | 15:07 |
| med_ | nod, I jsut read scrollback | 15:07 |
| mihalis68_ | it might help for him to get more feedback. He thought the other location was fancier and more official. They don't seem important criteria for an ops meetup to me | 15:07 |
| mihalis68_ | meanwhile a soon-to-be-retired post office is almost (if you squint a bit) a legacy network system | 15:08 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic berlin meetup march 2019 | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "berlin meetup march 2019 (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 15:08 | |
| mihalis68_ | seems there was not much else to say on actions | 15:08 |
| mihalis68_ | #link planning etherpad for berlin https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-ops-meetup | 15:09 |
| mihalis68_ | thanks to smcginnis for starting that | 15:09 |
| mihalis68_ | I have fwded the link to the UC as I said | 15:09 |
| mihalis68_ | to be blunt, for denver we kind of dropped the ball a little bit. Once we got enough topics, we said "ok fair enough" and distributed them across time slots | 15:09 |
| mihalis68_ | which meant 1 or 2 were not actually popular and/or well-formed suggestions | 15:10 |
| mihalis68_ | inadequate scrutiny | 15:10 |
| mihalis68_ | I am at least as guilty of that as anyone else | 15:10 |
| mihalis68_ | the UC wanted to help improve this bit | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | The more time we give for agenda forming, the better it will be. | 15:10 |
| mihalis68_ | agreed. The event is less than two months away now | 15:11 |
| mihalis68_ | plenty of time by calendar to do a great job | 15:11 |
| mihalis68_ | once we agree topics we need to find moderators | 15:12 |
| mihalis68_ | we also need to get the list of things that could be sponsorship opportunities | 15:12 |
| mihalis68_ | and finally we traditionally also try to set up a social event | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | Oh, speaking of sponsorship, Frank had also mentioned there might be a few local folks that may be interested in sponsoring different parts. | 15:13 |
| mihalis68_ | I believe this event will be closer to downtown berlin so this bit may be easier (citycube is out in the burbs) | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | If we can identify different parts that could be sponsored, that might make it easy to spread the load on this and get others involved. | 15:13 |
| spotz | I thought it was kinda near city cube from his description | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, the one was really close to CityCube. | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | But also close to the train. | 15:14 |
| mihalis68_ | ah ok, thanks for the correction | 15:14 |
| mihalis68_ | well, at least in my case I now have a better sense of berlin. I'm sure we can do something for the thursday evening | 15:14 |
| mihalis68_ | no emccormick today? | 15:15 |
| mihalis68_ | I was thinking of asking him to try to own the social | 15:16 |
| mihalis68_ | he normally ends up leading that particular charge anyway | 15:16 |
| mihalis68_ | unfortunately I don't think we have anyone here on this meeting actually living anywhere near this meetup | 15:16 |
| mihalis68_ | maybe we need a membership drive... | 15:16 |
| spotz | Those are always good to do | 15:17 |
| mihalis68_ | after the etherpad starts to take shape, we have previously used a google doc for the laying out of topics into time slots | 15:17 |
| mihalis68_ | is everyone still good with google docs for that? | 15:17 |
| mihalis68_ | it's not actually at all convenient for me, I'm not very familiar with using it and I also cannot get to it from the office | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | We could just use an etherpad. | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Either way works for me though. | 15:18 |
| med_ | ditto | 15:18 |
| mihalis68_ | selfishly a plain etherpad is easier for me, however some people have used some of the more advanced features of the sheet to some benefit | 15:18 |
| shintaro | If we only have 2-3 sessions, etherpad will be enough | 15:19 |
| mihalis68_ | ok let's turn the question around: anyone object to dropping the google doc? | 15:19 |
| mihalis68_ | I guess not | 15:19 |
| mihalis68_ | I'l update the google doc to point to a new etherpad for the agenda | 15:19 |
| mihalis68_ | and I'll start that etherpad too | 15:20 |
| mihalis68_ | #mihalis68_ to start the agenda planning doc (just another etherpad this time) | 15:20 |
| spotz | Sounds good | 15:20 |
| mihalis68_ | I think I'll email the list asking for people that are interested in the berlin meetup to help us organise it | 15:20 |
| mihalis68_ | see who responds | 15:20 |
| mihalis68_ | oops | 15:21 |
| mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68_ to start the agenda planning doc (just another etherpad this time) | 15:21 |
| mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68_ to ask for help from the european operators for this event on the mailing list | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | Would be great if we can get some European operators involved in forming the agenda. | 15:21 |
| mihalis68_ | indeed | 15:22 |
| mihalis68_ | in fact I would love it if we could find an organiser for the event from over there | 15:22 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 15:22 |
| mihalis68_ | a benevolent dictator | 15:22 |
| mihalis68_ | hello mrhillsman! | 15:22 |
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| mihalis68_ | we are on the topic of the berlin meetup | 15:23 |
| mihalis68_ | hi simon! | 15:23 |
| mihalis68_ | to sum up: we are getting the planning docs going for berlin, but need some european assistance | 15:23 |
| mihalis68_ | I'd love to see the planning etherpad fill up with topics that the "locals" would like to discuss | 15:23 |
| mihalis68_ | (I realise that europe is a big place and berlin is not "local" for many) | 15:24 |
| spotz | Maybe check with Tobias from City Network? | 15:24 |
| mihalis68_ | I think he popped up here once, right? | 15:25 |
| mihalis68_ | otherwise, though, I don't know Tobias | 15:25 |
| mihalis68_ | does anyone here know him? | 15:25 |
| mrhillsman | is there two track plan like tokyo? | 15:25 |
| mrhillsman | I know tobias | 15:25 |
| mrhillsman | tobberydberg | 15:26 |
| mihalis68_ | that is not decided yet. I asked Frank if they wish to have a track, but no response so far | 15:26 |
| shintaro | how about people from DT? They should be a part of the agenda planning, I guess | 15:26 |
| mihalis68_ | Indeed | 15:26 |
| mihalis68_ | maybe we should just invent some new procedure here. I could imagine putting "host slots" on the agenda in prime time | 15:27 |
| spotz | I can hit Tobias up if you want | 15:27 |
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| mihalis68_ | yes please | 15:27 |
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| mihalis68_ | #action spotz to contact tobias to see if he can help with agenda planning for berlin | 15:27 |
| mihalis68_ | for the NYC event I just shoved things we were interested in on the agenda and nobody minded | 15:28 |
| mihalis68_ | VW was here earlier but not sure if he's really here | 15:29 |
| mihalis68_ | anyway we have spotz and mrhillsman from UC, so I'm sure they have the message that the agenda planning is open and UC is invited to join in | 15:29 |
| mihalis68_ | as discussed in denver at that UC meeting | 15:29 |
| mihalis68_ | any more for Berlin? | 15:30 |
| mihalis68_ | who's going? | 15:30 |
| mihalis68_ | o/ | 15:30 |
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| med_ | notme | 15:30 |
| shintaro | planning | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | Not likely for me, but still holding out some small hope that I will be able to make it. | 15:30 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic NA meetup (#2) 2019 | 15:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "NA meetup (#2) 2019 (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 15:31 | |
| mihalis68_ | I had a planning meeting for our potential offer | 15:31 |
| mihalis68_ | so far it's still a possibility | 15:31 |
| mihalis68_ | we wont be able to charge and we'll have to use our own sign-up app on the web | 15:31 |
| smcginnis | That would be a lot easier for me to get to. And I'd love to get back to NY. | 15:32 |
| mihalis68_ | but can't promise it will happen | 15:32 |
| mihalis68_ | part of the problem is there's no legal entity that signs contracts to make these things happen | 15:32 |
| mihalis68_ | but I think I convinced them | 15:32 |
| med_ | +1 | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | They afraid we'll trash the place or something? :) | 15:33 |
| mihalis68_ | I did get a lot of pushback about liability | 15:33 |
| mihalis68_ | my colleague Kevin P. Fleming pointed out that we can all invite someone into the office on our own say-so without exchange of contracts | 15:34 |
| mihalis68_ | the difference is this one would be at our HQ, not a co-working space | 15:34 |
| mihalis68_ | Kevin's our "open source guy" | 15:34 |
| tobberydberg | o/ | 15:34 |
| * tobberydberg reading up | 15:34 | |
| spotz | mihalis68_: There's someone at looking to revive the NYC regular meetups, I suggested they contact you | 15:34 |
| mihalis68_ | hi there | 15:34 |
| spotz | Hey just talking about you tobberydberg! | 15:34 |
| mihalis68_ | is that someone in NYC Makoto? | 15:35 |
| mihalis68_ | tobberydberg we could use some help with the agenda planning for Berlin. We'd like to get the european community involved | 15:35 |
| spotz | mihalis68_: No Brian | 15:36 |
| mihalis68_ | the link is posted above, but it's just a skeleton for the most part | 15:36 |
| spotz | mihalis68_: We can take it offline to prevent confusion:) | 15:36 |
| mihalis68_ | sure, ok | 15:36 |
| tobberydberg | Ok ... for mid-cycle meetup Berlin if I understood this correctly | 15:36 |
| mihalis68_ | yes, the events that used to be called "ops mid-cycle" but are now not technically in the middle of an openstack release cycle | 15:37 |
| mihalis68_ | of course we also want to encourage operators in europe to attend in the first place! | 15:38 |
| med_ | and tobberydberg we talk about this most Tuesdays during this hour. you are always welcome. | 15:38 |
| mihalis68_ | getting interest helps the agenda, and then getting a good agenda helps generate more interest | 15:38 |
| tobberydberg | Ok, cool! Will try to put a reminder for this slot | 15:39 |
| spotz | :) | 15:39 |
| mihalis68_ | excellent | 15:40 |
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| smcginnis | mihalis68_: For the second NA meetup, should we open things up and ask for other hosting offers in case NY falls through? Or is your gut feel that it will work out and we don't need to so that? | 15:40 |
| mihalis68_ | the former | 15:40 |
| mihalis68_ | I can't promise anything | 15:40 |
| smcginnis | We do have plenty of time too. | 15:41 |
| tobberydberg | Can bring this to our public cloud wg meeting on thursday and promote it there... | 15:41 |
| mihalis68_ | maybe you could ask for that? | 15:41 |
| smcginnis | tobberydberg: Great idea! | 15:41 |
| med_ | +100 | 15:42 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm hoping we nail down the venue soon and get the Eventbrite created. Once the Eventbrite exists, with the typical nice graphics that the foundation excels at, it becomes a real event that people want to go to if they can | 15:42 |
| mihalis68_ | spotz do you know who we should talk to about that once the venue is locked in? | 15:43 |
| spotz | Allison didn't seem to think it would be hard to get going, and she'll contact me this week with what she needs from us besides the address, dates, etc | 15:43 |
| mihalis68_ | ok cool | 15:43 |
| spotz | mihalis68_: Already in the works:) | 15:43 |
| mihalis68_ | the next topic on the agenda is ops docs, however I have no progress to report | 15:44 |
| mihalis68_ | and then the last one is any other business | 15:44 |
| mihalis68_ | so let's just call it open mic | 15:44 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic any other business | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "any other business (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 15:44 | |
| mihalis68_ | any more for any more? | 15:44 |
| med_ | more like news: Target reported on a systemic outage that involved K8s and OpenStack. fyi: https://medium.com/@daniel.p.woods/on-infrastructure-at-scale-a-cascading-failure-of-distributed-systems-7cff2a3cd2df | 15:45 |
| mihalis68_ | under this topic, I wanted to encourage everyone to vote | 15:45 |
| med_ | I haven't fully absorbed it yet. | 15:45 |
| mihalis68_ | I saw that but did not yet read | 15:45 |
| med_ | I Voted TM. | 15:45 |
| spotz | I voted! | 15:46 |
| mihalis68_ | if you don't have your choices made for this vote, there are two great candidates within the ops meetups team | 15:46 |
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| shintaro | I voted too | 15:46 |
| mihalis68_ | I voted | 15:46 |
| spotz | med_: Yeah I saw that, kinda scary:( | 15:46 |
| smcginnis | Target is local here. I should reach out to them. | 15:46 |
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| med_ | are you in Minnesotat smcginnis ? | 15:46 |
| smcginnis | Please vote for whoever you think would be best. There are a lot of good candidates. | 15:46 |
| mihalis68_ | when we have outages we send disclosure notices. My users love those | 15:46 |
| * med_ thought smcg as Texican. | 15:46 | |
| smcginnis | med_: Yep, Minneapolis. I actually used to work for Target back when it was Dayton Hudson Corp. | 15:47 |
| mihalis68_ | Oh yes I do agree, vote for who you think best, totally | 15:47 |
| * med_ did too | 15:47 | |
| mihalis68_ | just don't overlook certain candidates :) | 15:47 |
| med_ | but just as a stocker. | 15:47 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68_: ;) | 15:47 |
| smcginnis | med_: Started off in the telecom department there running their video conference network and as a PBX admin. | 15:47 |
| mihalis68_ | somehow the combination of a terrible outage and minnesota has me thinking of a certain wood-chipper scene in a certain cohen brothers movie | 15:48 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 15:48 |
| med_ | <SNORT> | 15:48 |
| * med_ bails for his next meeting. | 15:48 | |
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| smcginnis | That was up der in Fargo, eh. | 15:48 |
| mihalis68_ | ok, yes, think we are done. Last call | 15:49 |
| mihalis68_ | kinda funny looking | 15:49 |
| mihalis68_ | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 15 15:49:19 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-01-15-15.00.html | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-01-15-15.00.txt | 15:49 |
| smcginnis | Thanks everyone! | 15:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2019/ops_meetup_team.2019-01-15-15.00.log.html | 15:49 |
| spotz | Thanks all! And welcome tobberydberg! | 15:49 |
| mihalis68_ | thanks everyone | 15:49 |
| mihalis68_ | see you next week, same time, same place | 15:49 |
| mihalis68_ | now that the minutes are done, sean : "Huawei's Founder Breaks Silence to Deny Spying, Praise Trump (3)" SORT THAT OUT WILL YOU | 15:50 |
| smcginnis | Saw that this morning. Sheesh. | 15:50 |
| smcginnis | It's smart though. He knows all he has to do is say something nice about Trump and that will make him happy. | 15:50 |
| tobberydberg | Thanks! :-) | 15:51 |
| mihalis68_ | that's true | 15:51 |
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| spotz | heheheh | 15:59 |
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| smcginnis | emccormick: Something up with your phone? | 16:29 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm getting that too | 16:32 |
| mihalis68_ | I sent him a message on Telegram | 16:34 |
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