Tuesday, 2018-12-11

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/operations-guide master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/62430307:25
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/operations-guide master: DNM: Testing translation of subdirs  https://review.openstack.org/62431207:57
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/operations-guide master: DNM: Testing translation of subdirs  https://review.openstack.org/62431208:02
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/operations-guide master: DNM: Testing translation of subdirs  https://review.openstack.org/62431208:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/operations-guide master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/62430308:10
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mihalis68_o/15:03
mihalis68_#startmeeting ops-meetup-team15:04
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec 11 15:04:00 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:04
mihalis68_hello15:04
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"15:04
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'15:04
mihalis68_who's around?15:04
smcginnisRounder by the year.15:04
mihalis68_ha ha15:04
mihalis68_I didn't prepare the agenda beforehand, just throwing something together now15:04
emccormicko/15:05
mrhillsmano/15:05
emccormicksorry, was idling in the wrong channel ;)15:05
mihalis68_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team15:05
mihalis68_#topic actions15:05
*** openstack changes topic to "actions (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"15:05
simon-AS559o/15:06
smcginnisGreat turnout today.15:06
emccormickHey Simon!15:06
mihalis68_I was supposed to email Frank Kloeker about the status of their offer, but I dont think I did. It turns out they are the only hosts offereing, so we mainly have to agree which dates work best and then get the community to agree it15:06
mihalis68_hi Simon!15:06
smcginnisDates were end of Feb or second week of March?15:07
smcginnisOh, nope, I'm way off. :)15:08
mihalis68_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-venue-discuss-1st-2019-berlin15:08
emccormickThink it was last week of feb and first week of march15:08
smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-venue-discuss-1st-2019-berlin15:08
smcginnisI see it looks like that etherpad was updated to state two rooms have actually been reserved.15:08
emccormickhuh. That changed15:09
smcginnisYeah, looks like the second date line changed too.15:09
mihalis68_i wonder if they adjusted the dates a bit. Now it's 6th and 7th or 7th and 8th of March15:09
smcginnisSo the week of March 6th.15:09
mihalis68_yeah15:09
mihalis68_I was also due to follow-up on Bloomberg hosting the second 2019 meeting. I'm still in discussion about, but no update to share15:10
mihalis68_any other actions to report on?15:10
emccormickSo Wednesday - Thursday or Thursday - Friday15:10
mihalis68_I think I would prefer the latter since I could make use of my travel time by having the saturday in berlin. I have a friend there15:10
smcginnisWould be nice to have a couple days in Berlin.15:11
emccormickoddly I think that actually improves the flight availability a bit for me.15:12
mihalis68_so we do favor the Thur/Fri pair?15:12
emccormickDoing it Thursday / Friday.15:12
smcginnisEither works for me.15:12
mihalis68_any other comments?15:12
emccormickAlso less missed work by travelling home on the weekend. Make bosses happy15:13
smcginnisMight be nice to have it mid week if folks don't want to use the weekend for travel days, but either way.15:13
mihalis68_we're only a small band but we can still say the early consensus is thur/fridy15:13
smcginnisThat's a good point emccormick15:13
simon-AS559Fine with me!15:13
mrhillsman++15:13
spotzLate but here!15:13
mihalis68_I do one leg of travel at the weekend where possible. it's not so much keeping my boss happy as minimising the away time15:13
smcginnisspotz!15:14
mihalis68_hi spotz!15:14
emccormickother actions we had from before15:14
mihalis68_#agreed those attending favor the Thur/Friday pair of dates15:14
emccormickmrhillsman to suggest to superuser editor and jeremy stanley an article about the mailing list merge15:14
mihalis68_#link http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-unifies-mailing-lists/15:14
mihalis68_heh15:14
mihalis68_that posted a couple of days ago I think15:14
emccormicksuper!15:14
emccormicksmcginnis will look into moving the arch guide to enable others to update it going forwards15:15
emccormickGuessing that is pending given your travels15:15
mihalis68_he can give us an update on all that in next topic, if htats ok?15:15
mihalis68_it's in flight AFAIK15:15
emccormickYou're going to speak fluent German by next summer15:15
mihalis68_any other updates from those attending on past actions?15:15
emccormickfine with me :)15:15
mihalis68_#topic ops docs15:16
*** openstack changes topic to "ops docs (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"15:16
mihalis68_smcginnis how's this going? I think you've been pretty busy!15:16
smcginnis#link https://docs.openstack.org/arch-design/15:16
smcginnisDone@15:16
mihalis68_("this" being the move of doc 3 into the sig)15:16
mihalis68_hash applause15:16
smcginnisIt has been officially registered as sig-owned and the source has been moved to its own repo.15:17
emccormicksweet15:17
spotzNice15:17
mihalis68_I had an action to set up a meeting for the ops docs sig. Not done yet, sorry15:17
smcginnis#link http://github.com/openstack/arch-design15:17
smcginnisSeveral updates in there so far too for translations and other updates.15:17
mihalis68_nice work.15:18
mihalis68_emccormick volunteered last week for some work on the operations guide IIRC15:18
emccormickDoes anyone have a preferred tool for editing RST so you can see what it looks like without doing a build?15:18
mihalis68_I can't wait to rej^wreview it15:18
emccormickI did. I'm going to work on stripping off that deployment section in favor of a lighter thing with references to other docs15:18
smcginnisI've seen a couple decent online editors.15:18
emccormickI expect to work on that over the holidays while bored in BFE Pennsylvania at my in-laws15:19
mihalis68_excellent. I'm looking forward to it. on a personal note I'm going to mildly subvert a chromebook to have a linux co-install and get the build environment for OS docs up in there15:19
emccormickI have some old emacs habits that have led me to install an RST module into it, but I haven't tried it out yet15:19
emccormicknasty I know15:19
mihalis68_oh I'm an Emacs user <morpheus voice> and I'm not ashamed15:20
emccormickAll you really need is git and git-review15:20
emccormickno need for devstack and all that goo15:20
mihalis68_and my trust -2 button mwhahaha15:20
mihalis68_ok ops docs is picking up speed and I need to catch up15:21
mihalis68_I have to buy sean and erik beers for that. Maybe in Berlin (again!)15:21
mihalis68_#topic 2019 meetups15:21
smcginnis:)15:21
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mihalis68_someone remind me, are we trying to agree the Berlin proposal by one week from today?15:21
mihalis68_I think so, right?15:22
simon-AS559Let's go for it15:22
smcginnisMake it so. ;)15:22
emccormickI believe that's what we decided to give ample time for people to butter up their significant others over the holidays :D15:22
mrhillsmanseems reasonable15:22
emccormickand ample time for DT to plan15:22
mihalis68_#action mihalis68 to mail the community suggesting the Thur/Fri slot be approved for meetup #1 201915:22
mrhillsmanespecially being dt has already reserved and they own the building ;)15:23
mihalis68_we've tried using polls to get guidance rom the "ops community" but honestly I don't think it worked15:23
emccormickand mention proposals for meetup 1 close Tuesday morning15:23
mihalis68_we got like 17 responses15:23
spotzmihalis68_: 17 isn't a bad response:(15:24
mihalis68_so I say we follow the sentiment expressed here, favoring the Thursday/Friday and suggesting that the DT proposal is otherwise a fine one and should be declared officially accepted next week15:24
simon-AS559sounds good15:24
mihalis68_any objections?15:24
spotz+115:24
mihalis68_mrhillsman?15:25
emccormick+115:25
mihalis68_vw?15:25
mihalis68_(not that I've seen him today here but I can hope)15:25
smcginnismrhillsman is here with me and is good with the plan.15:25
mihalis68_ok then I've already actioned myself to mail the list15:26
mihalis68_btw I finally read the rules about the combined mailing list and I love how our [subject] is now just {ops}. Seems so easy...15:26
mihalis68_[topic] I guess15:26
emccormickso easy...for people to filter out hehe15:27
smcginnisYep!15:27
mihalis68_I already mentioned the second global meetup (in progress at my employer)15:27
mihalis68_the only other meetup item is the potential openstack day at CERN15:27
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emccormickWe had a drop-in last week by someone who runs a Toronto meetup that had interest in holding an event at some point15:28
emccormicknothing more than an interest, but perhaps they'll need some help one day15:28
mihalis68_yes, true. I've also got very early tentive discussions about reviving something in NYC, but too early to say much about it15:28
mihalis68_should we ask Belmiro if they are going to formally offer something? I'm not sure we're needed to sanction or organise it, but perhaps we can offer to help15:29
mrhillsmanyes i am, sorry15:29
smcginnisAny assistance we could provide, I think that would be good.15:30
smcginnisEven just amplifying things.15:30
emccormickMaybe just let him know we're here to assist if and when they decide to formalize something15:30
mihalis68_Simon I wonder would you care to pick up the subject with Belmiro?15:30
smcginnis++15:30
mihalis68_You're at least in a similar time zone15:30
mihalis68_simon-AS559 I mean15:31
mrhillsmani’m still down to wrangle moderators15:31
simon-AS559I can contact Belmiro.15:31
simon-AS559That would be a counter-proposal to the meeting in Berlin in March?15:31
mihalis68_ok great. the message is we'd like to help, and also setting a date and making a commitment enables real planning15:31
mihalis68_No they don't compete at all. CERN is pondering a one-off single day "openstack dat"15:32
mihalis68_openstack day15:32
simon-AS559OK, right.15:32
simon-AS559Happy to offer our assistance.15:32
mihalis68_and their timing is fairly close to the summit, so it would not fit the ops meetups guidelines too well as a replacement for berlin anyway15:32
emccormickLate May was their target I think15:32
mihalis68_mrhillsman moderators and technical agenda planning should start as soon as we lock in berlin15:33
emccormickwas like 3 weeks post-summit15:33
mihalis68_I'm excited to get to that point soon and ensure a higher chance of a high quality event15:33
mihalis68_#action simon-AS559 to contact Belmiro Moreira (CERN) to find out if they are ready to set a date and commit to an openstack day at CERN15:34
mihalis68_with the offer of help from the meetups team15:34
mihalis68_any more comments on upcoming meetups?15:36
smcginnisNope15:36
mihalis68_I just took a "temperature reading" with my boss. Me attending Denver is a given15:36
emccormicknone here15:36
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mihalis68_China, for me, is a bit of a stretch15:36
smcginnisI think it will be a stretch for many.15:36
emccormickI'd skip all the rest if it gave me a shot at that one ;)15:36
mihalis68_for me it's not budget or time so much as there has been some difficulty between parts of my employer and china in the past15:37
* smcginnis has to step away for a while15:37
mrhillsman^15:37
mihalis68_plenty of time to discuss that later. I may have to rely on erik for that one15:37
emccormickttyl boys15:37
mihalis68_peoples time is valuable, so15:37
mihalis68_#topic any other business15:37
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spotzI think a lot of stackers might pass on China from the US15:37
emccormickHong Kong would have been a lot easier I think15:38
mihalis68_I'd actually love to go, my daughter has ok Mandarin15:38
emccormickespecially given certain...political situations15:38
emccormickdo we even know what city yet?15:38
mihalis68_I feel like things like openstack should strive to balance out the political shenanigans. Anyway15:38
emccormickChina is a big place15:38
mihalis68_like space? (apologies to douglas adams)15:38
emccormickhehe15:39
mihalis68_ok final call. Think we got through everything we needed to15:39
emccormickAll future events in Switzerland15:39
simon-AS559+115:39
mihalis68_#endmeeting15:39
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mihalis68_thanks all15:40
emccormickcatch ya later15:40
mihalis68_never been to switzerland. I have a friend there too!15:40
simon-AS559See you all15:40
mihalis68_bye!15:41
spotzseeya!15:41
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