Tuesday, 2018-10-09

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mihalis68_o/14:01
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smcginnisMorning mihalis68_14:01
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mihalis68_Morning! I'm here, but I don't have much to show for the past week14:02
shintarohi all14:02
smcginnisHey shintaro o/14:02
mihalis68_I did receive a tiny bit of feedback that an operators social on the first full conference day (Tuesday) was a good idea14:03
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smcginnismihalis68_: Yeah, not much here.14:03
shintarohi smcginnis14:03
mihalis68_i know that either emccormick or mrhillsman did ping VW about possibly reaching out to CERN regarding an inter-summit meetup in Feb/march 201914:03
mihalis68_oh yeah, hang on14:04
mihalis68_#startmeeting ops-meetup-team14:04
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct  9 14:04:16 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:04
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mihalis68_#topic actions from last week14:04
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mihalis68_I was to notify the mailing list about tuesday as a target date for the operators social - DONE14:04
mihalis68_emccormick to ping VW about cern - DONE14:05
mihalis68_any other progress?14:05
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* smcginnis hopes he didn't have an action item14:05
mihalis68_I have some work internal to my employer to keep the ball rolling towards a hosting offer next year.14:05
mihalis68_you did not.14:05
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smcginnisWhew14:05
mihalis68_#action mihalis68_ to continue working on hosting offer for inter-summit meetup #1 201914:06
mihalis68_If there is not much else to say, we can make this week's meeting very brief14:06
mihalis68_emccormick had an action to research possible venues14:06
mihalis68_not complete AFAIK14:06
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mihalis68_#topic Berlin summit14:07
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mihalis68_is there any news on the forum talks, smcginnis?14:07
VW_hey folks - sorry I'm a bit late14:07
mihalis68_howdy!14:07
mihalis68_Have you been able to contact anyone at CERN about the possibiluty of being involved in a research track at a ops meetup?14:08
smcginnismihalis68_: Forum talks should all be accepted. It's not finalized yet, but all topics looked good and there should be enough space.14:08
mihalis68_dammit, now I have to ... you know ... do stuff14:09
mihalis68_:)14:09
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mihalis68_I think Erik wanted to moderate the ops meetup team one14:09
spotzMorning!14:09
mihalis68_you're doing the ops docs, Sean?14:09
mihalis68_Hey Spotz!14:09
VW_yes - I have mihalis68_ - figured I wait for the right topic :)14:10
mihalis68_I think my session is somehting like Ceph is great and you should use it14:10
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mihalis68_ok ok. Darned procedural sticklers!14:10
mihalis68_anymore re: Berlin?14:10
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emccormickbo/14:10
mihalis68_boo!14:11
smcginnisOh right, yes, I will lead the ops docs discussion.14:11
mihalis68_action on all moderators - get going on your etherpads for Berlin14:11
mihalis68_action on me, book flights and accomodation :|14:11
mihalis68_#topic inter-summit meetups, 201014:11
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mihalis68_201914:11
mihalis68_Mr Van Winkle, do you have an update for us?14:11
emccormickre: my action, I've done some preliminary browsing but have nothing obviously awesome yet14:11
emccormickwill continue looking14:12
mihalis68_We're counting on you man!14:12
mihalis68_how will we find beer and strudel in Berlin of all places, otherwise?14:12
VW_yes - so I checked with Tim and Belmiro and they are definitely interested14:12
emccormickIt seems you can get 2 of good food, good beer, and fun things14:12
emccormickfinding all 3 in one place is difficult ;)14:12
mihalis68_Great. It is so helpful for me to have this when I go and tell people we need to host it14:12
VW_I mentioned you all were thinking March.  They had originally thought May14:12
VW_so, we need to decide there14:13
mihalis68_I think march is our earliest14:13
VW_they also mentioned maybe pairing it with a Ceph day14:13
spotzemccormick: Jillr is actually going to be in Berlin soon for vacation, she said she'd look around too14:13
mihalis68_I think Feb/march is simply following the pattern of being as near as possible to mid-way between summits14:13
emccormickspotz Oh nice! She's one of the motivators for the "have stuff to do besides get shellaced" requirement14:14
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mihalis68_May would actually be *after* Denver summit14:14
VW_it would14:14
mihalis68_how do people feel about that?14:14
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emccormickSo we'd basically be skipping a cycle14:15
VW_personally, I see everything as shifting with the new summit schedule14:15
mihalis68_it would mean April: summit in denver, May meetup in europe somewhere, possibly frankfurt14:15
VW_so, I'm not married to a date14:15
mihalis68_is denver the only 2019 summit?14:15
VW_they weren't against March - just not where their heads were14:15
smcginnisI was hoping to keep the quarterly cadence, but *shrug*14:15
VW_tell you what14:16
mihalis68_week-long-ish events in successive months is certainly more stress for those leaving family behind14:16
spotzI don't think anyone one would complain about a meeting at CERN o any schedule?:)14:16
VW_let me get mihalis68_ in contact with Belmiro14:16
VW_and then the conversation can go from there14:16
mihalis68_feel free. Will msg you my work email14:16
VW_sounds good14:17
VW_the good news is, they are interested in making it happen14:17
VW_and that's way over half the battle ;)14:17
mihalis68_great. I have paperwork to submit to formally request it I shall get on it14:17
mihalis68_thanks for doing the legwork in breaching that topic with them, VW!14:17
VW_anytime14:18
mihalis68_I already actioned myself to get on that work14:18
shintaroI see KubeCon Europe will be in May 20-23 2019 so it may be better not to conflict with that.14:19
VW_good point14:23
mihalis68_Can someone summarise the "new summit schedule". i know I've heard about it but the details escape me right now14:23
VW_Fairly certain it's twice a year14:24
VW_summit followed by a PTG14:24
mihalis68_I mean should we change the target time slots for inter-summit meetups?14:24
smcginnisYou mean when the summits will be, or how the week will be organized?14:24
mihalis68_the former14:24
mihalis68_VW was saying everything is shifting but I'm not sure I know what is changing14:24
smcginnisIt should still be April/May and October/November. But current plan is 3 days for Summit and Forum followed by 3 days for PTG.14:24
emccormickThe actual placement of the events on the calendar is the same14:25
emccormickjust the composition of the events has changed14:25
emccormickwhich would seem to indicate our cadence should remain the same14:25
smcginnisemccormick: ++14:25
VW_so April/May  and Oct/Nov14:25
emccormickI too prefer the quarterly cadence14:25
mrhillsmansorry so late14:25
mihalis68_hey mrhillsman14:26
mihalis68_we are just discussing cadence14:26
mihalis68_and when inter-summit meetups should be14:26
mihalis68_if we stick to the pattern, 2019 #1 would be feb/march14:26
mihalis68_but CERN was thinking more like May which doesn't really fit at all14:26
emccormickso Late Feb/early march and July/August14:26
spotzSo then CERN would just be a bit early?14:26
mrhillsmana bit late14:26
mrhillsmansummit is in/near May right?14:27
spotzWell unless you still had the early one?14:27
mihalis68_Denver is "week of April 29th" 201914:27
mrhillsmanah ok14:28
mihalis68_May feels way too early to get on the road again14:28
shintaroyou are right14:28
mihalis68_I suggest I find out if my employer can make a hosting offer and when and take it from there14:28
smcginnisI'm pretty sure the Summit/Forum/PTG is going to kill me, so not sure if May is enough time to recover. :)14:28
smcginnismihalis68_: That sounds like a good plan to me.14:28
mihalis68_alright14:28
mihalis68_#topic any other business14:29
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VW_well, and I think they are looking into if March would work14:29
mihalis68_anything else folks?14:29
VW_so don't write it off yet14:29
VW_just wanted to point out we needed to sort that detail14:30
mihalis68_yeah, March seemed to be in-principle doable for us in Frankfurt14:30
mihalis68_we do14:30
mihalis68_ok if nothing else, I suggest we call it and give 30 minutes back to everyone. As always I appreciate everyone's time14:30
smcginnisThanks all!14:31
emccormick+114:31
mihalis68_thanks!14:31
shintarothank you all!14:31
mihalis68_#endmeeting14:31
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spotzThanks!14:31
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emccormickmihalis68_ Go book your flight and hotel!14:31
mihalis68_Yes Sir!14:31
emccormick:D14:32
VW_thanks mihalis68_14:32
emccormickI arrive Friday now, so anyone there that's bored let me know14:32
emccormickstupid flight doubled in price and I had to go a day earlier14:33
spotzemccormick: I'll be arriving Friday night, OUI will start Sunday at noon14:33
mihalis68_if I arrive friday, I'll be DEAD BEFORE THE CONFERENCE14:33
spotzI'm still hotel less but I have a flight:)14:33
smcginnisI think I get in Friday.14:33
emccormickspots Yeah that's why I was going to arrive Saturday *heh*14:33
emccormickno worries. More beer14:33
shintaroI couldn't get the hotel I mentioned last week. The price went up and exceeded my company's limit :( I've got a room at the Ibis hotel instead which is close to Wittenbergplatz station.14:36
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jproulxlow priority but curious...I have a user getting "Danger error submitting form" after horizon time out when attempting to launch instance using Safari, same user,action,laptop using Firefox works fine (other user same everything else on different system's safari also works).19:57
jproulxanyone have a clue on that? I'm out of ideas & user willing to live with workaround but it's driving *me* nuts...19:58
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spotzjproulx: I'd ask over in Horizon, but to be honest I use safari to record my training videos and have never seen that so they'll probably need versions and as many details as possible22:05
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