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| tobberydberg | mriedem: Yes, we will submit a hand full forum session today | 06:33 |
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| mihalis68_ | ping emccormick | 13:04 |
| mihalis68_ | ping spotz | 13:04 |
| mihalis68_ | ping mrhillsman | 13:05 |
| mihalis68_ | ping jproulx | 13:05 |
| mrhillsman | sup | 13:05 |
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| mihalis68_ | meeeting in 30 minutes of ops meetups team, but more importantly the submission list for forum is nearly empty and due today | 13:05 |
| mrhillsman | time change? | 13:05 |
| mihalis68_ | oh my mistake it's in an hour. I was looking at the wrong tiome | 13:06 |
| mihalis68_ | sorry | 13:06 |
| mihalis68_ | but we still don't have much for the forum and it closes tomorrow | 13:06 |
| mrhillsman | agreed | 13:06 |
| mihalis68_ | I submitted a topic about future mid-cycles, but no +1s | 13:07 |
| mihalis68_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 13:07 |
| mihalis68_ | the etherpad and the submission tool link are in today's agenda (in above link) | 13:08 |
| mihalis68_ | ping smcginnis although he expects not to make this meeting | 13:08 |
| mihalis68_ | If anyone would like to discuss future ops meetups between summits please +1 my topic on the planning etherpad and I'll submit to the forum submission tool. I would feel bad submitting without any positive feedback | 13:13 |
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| jproulx | Hi mihalis68_ | 13:56 |
| mihalis68_ | hi. Today is the day we need to agree on topics for the forum | 13:57 |
| jproulx | I'm not prepared for anything particularly just happened to glance at this window :) | 13:57 |
| mihalis68_ | etherpad and submission tool links in the agenda for todays meeting | 13:57 |
| mihalis68_ | we have 4 submissions | 13:57 |
| jproulx | eek | 13:58 |
| * jproulx looks | 13:58 | |
| mihalis68_ | #startmeeting ops-meetup-team | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 25 14:00:33 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 14:00 |
| mihalis68_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:00 |
| mihalis68_ | hello everyone | 14:00 |
| mihalis68_ | the above link is todays agenda. I think the only urgent thing is for us to finish off topic selection and then submission to the forum planning process for the openstack summit in Berlin this November | 14:01 |
| mihalis68_ | We only have a small number of session proposal so far | 14:01 |
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| mihalis68_ | #topic forum topics | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "forum topics (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:01 | |
| shintaro | hi | 14:02 |
| mihalis68_ | Hi Shintaro | 14:02 |
| mihalis68_ | I was just asking people to look at the Forum topics etherpad. | 14:02 |
| shintaro | hi mihalis68 | 14:02 |
| mihalis68_ | These need to be agreed today as topic submission needs to be done by tomorrow | 14:02 |
| mihalis68_ | My single suggestion is discuss future "ops mid-cycle" events (in quotes because they are no longer technically mid-release-cycle) | 14:03 |
| mihalis68_ | the events between summits | 14:03 |
| mihalis68_ | independent of any other event | 14:03 |
| mihalis68_ | I | 14:03 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm going to submit that this afternoon | 14:03 |
| mihalis68_ | there are three other submissions : ops docs, deployment tools, actions from UC. Who will submit those? (they are all +1ed) | 14:04 |
| mihalis68_ | ah, wait, the UC actions are part of deployment tools | 14:04 |
| jproulx | +1 to Meetups really needs to be mostly decided by end of summit if there's going to be one | 14:04 |
| mihalis68_ | yep. I'll submit and plan to moderate. I also put in request for Bloomberg to host it for #1. We might be able to do something in Europe | 14:05 |
| mihalis68_ | which is in line with wishes expressed to me in Denver and the general goal of geographical alternation | 14:05 |
| mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68 to submit the "ops meetups" forum topic to forum planning. TODAY! | 14:05 |
| mihalis68_ | ping spotz | 14:06 |
| mihalis68_ | ping mrhillsman | 14:06 |
| mihalis68_ | ping emccorkmic | 14:06 |
| mihalis68_ | ping emccorkmick | 14:06 |
| mihalis68_ | ping smcginnis (although I don't think he can make it) | 14:06 |
| mihalis68_ | ping vw | 14:06 |
| mihalis68_ | does someone want to own deployment tools? | 14:06 |
| mihalis68_ | I can submit ops docs as I'm involved and also because smcginnis reached out to say he probably couldn't make it today | 14:07 |
| jproulx | hearing the crickets I can submit & moderate "deployment tools" | 14:08 |
| mihalis68_ | ok thanks jproulx, much appreciated | 14:08 |
| jproulx | I'd definitely interested in the answers to it. | 14:09 |
| mihalis68_ | I was just about to ask if everyone's even going to Berlin. | 14:09 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm definitely going now | 14:09 |
| mihalis68_ | there are other things we've talked about in previous summits | 14:09 |
| jproulx | #action jproulx to submit the "deployment tools" forum topic to forum planning. TODAY! | 14:09 |
| mihalis68_ | e.g. long-term maintenance branches (aka long-term support releases) | 14:09 |
| mihalis68_ | shintaro are you coming to Berlin? | 14:12 |
| shintaro | I still need to get approval but I will be there too. I can help prepare/moderate deployment tools contents. | 14:12 |
| mihalis68_ | are there other things you would like to submit to the Forum? This is supposed to be where the devs and the users/operators exchange feedback | 14:12 |
| mihalis68_ | We're really low on attendance to this meeting today. I wonder if I might do better trying to wake things up on the mailing list | 14:13 |
| shintaro | I don't have any more than currently proposed. | 14:14 |
| mrhillsman | driving, need a moment | 14:14 |
| mihalis68_ | Ok mrhillsman please don't let us distract you | 14:14 |
| jproulx | shintaro I'm putting together submission proposal for deployment tools and would be happy to add you if you want me to do so | 14:14 |
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| shintaro | thanks jproulx I'm happy to help | 14:15 |
| emccormick | Hey guys. Sorry for the tardiness | 14:15 |
| mihalis68_ | we have a grand total of 3 topics | 14:15 |
| jproulx | will do shintaro thanks | 14:15 |
| mihalis68_ | deployment tools (jproulx, shintaro), ops docs (sean and/or me), between-summit-meetups (me) | 14:16 |
| emccormick | Didn't Edgar put his thing in yet? | 14:16 |
| mihalis68_ | things not submitted : ha, ceph, long-term maintenance, ffwd upgrades | 14:16 |
| mihalis68_ | I don't see it | 14:16 |
| emccormick | Huh | 14:16 |
| mihalis68_ | I said we'd review and +1 it | 14:16 |
| emccormick | OK I'll talk to him | 14:16 |
| jproulx | Ceph meetup is Monday (pre-summit) | 14:16 |
| emccormick | Yeah, Ceph Day should cover Ceph things. FFU and LTS are pretty much in process at this point | 14:17 |
| emccormick | I'm sure there will be sessions from project teams on it if needed, but they seem to have lots of ongoing work at this point | 14:17 |
| shintaro | I think HA will be proposed from Self-healing SIG? I'll ask SamP if they are planning to do so. | 14:17 |
| mihalis68_ | I can't find edgar's email about this now | 14:18 |
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| emccormick | it wasn't an email | 14:18 |
| emccormick | it was a Twitter thread | 14:19 |
| emccormick | He tweeted about wanting to discuss concurrency at the forum and I directed him to drop it on our etherpad | 14:19 |
| mihalis68_ | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/JL2mqmJE/ | 14:19 |
| emccormick | he said he'd do it "tomorrow" which was yesterday I think | 14:19 |
| mihalis68_ | yeah, please chase him | 14:20 |
| mihalis68_ | I don't think I want to be so presumptuous as to take someone elses tweet and make it into a forum submission on their behalf | 14:20 |
| mihalis68_ | should we have an ops meetups team session? | 14:20 |
| mihalis68_ | we have tended to in the past | 14:21 |
| mihalis68_ | or is the between-summits-meetup session enough? | 14:21 |
| emccormick | emailed him | 14:21 |
| emccormick | No me either. I want him to provide details and moderate it :) | 14:22 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm going to ceph day, but it's not the same thing as forum | 14:22 |
| emccormick | I think the ops meetup team catchup can be done as part of the midcycle discussion | 14:22 |
| mihalis68_ | honestly, I think the openstack community just has too many "structures" for the current amount of manpower. PTG, Forum, Summit, UC, TC, Ops | 14:22 |
| emccormick | no need to take up a separate slot for it. I know forum slots are going to be tighter this time around | 14:23 |
| shintaro | between-summits-meetup session would be enough to get attention IMHO | 14:23 |
| emccormick | 3 days only and 2 days of keynotes | 14:23 |
| mihalis68_ | yeah ok | 14:23 |
| mihalis68_ | is the combined now officially 6 days? | 14:23 |
| emccormick | If you want a Ceph + Openstack session then put it on the etherpad :). I'm always happy to chat about it. | 14:23 |
| mihalis68_ | ceph, summitx3, ptgx2 | 14:23 |
| emccormick | No PTG this time | 14:24 |
| emccormick | Not til Denver | 14:24 |
| emccormick | Sunday / Monday Upstream Institute | 14:24 |
| mihalis68_ | Oh... thanks you're helping me. I was thinking Berlin was the 6-day monster | 14:24 |
| emccormick | Monday Ceph Day | 14:24 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm always happy to chat about ceph with operators too | 14:24 |
| emccormick | Tuesday - Thursday Summit (keynotes Tuesday + Wednesday) | 14:24 |
| spotz | I'm here now mihalis68_:) | 14:24 |
| mihalis68_ | but in Tokyo I talked and talked and talked | 14:24 |
| mihalis68_ | no interaction | 14:24 |
| mihalis68_ | then a very polite "well we use Swift" | 14:25 |
| mihalis68_ | hi spotz | 14:25 |
| spotz | mreidm had some forum topic ideas yesterday let me look in the scroll | 14:25 |
| mihalis68_ | ops forum topics are very few in number this time | 14:25 |
| emccormick | When we've done Ceph forum sessions in the past, we've ended up with Sage and others showing up | 14:25 |
| mihalis68_ | docs, deployment tools, between-summit-meetups | 14:25 |
| mihalis68_ | yeah. Maybe we should just be bold "Ceph is great and you should use it with your openstack" | 14:26 |
| mihalis68_ | I'd "moderate" the heck out of that | 14:26 |
| jproulx | main ceph question is would there be a sufficiently different set of people from ceph day attendees? | 14:26 |
| emccormick | it was kind of a nice chance for Openstack operators to quiz the Ceph devs. No Guarantee they'll show though. It just happened | 14:26 |
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| spotz | From scroll: tobberydberg: will you or someone else be submitting forum sessions for public cloud wg stuff like os-purge and oschown? i assume placement extraction from nova might also be of interest to people | 14:26 |
| spotz | Tobias did reply this morning they were going to submit some topics but not sure what | 14:26 |
| * jproulx hasn't heard of "oschown" but likes the sound of it (googles) | 14:27 | |
| emccormick | jproulx Last time I went to Ceph day it was much more presentation oriented. I'm not sure if it matters that there are different people. | 14:27 |
| mihalis68_ | does anyone else like the idea of an ops submitted ceph talk for forum? I will happily moderate it and erik says he'd be happy to participate | 14:28 |
| jproulx | I've not been before so if it's a different format that as good or better than different people | 14:28 |
| jproulx | I'd likely attend | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | oschown is a "quick prototype" just to test if the concept of "database hacky transfer" works in practice | 14:28 |
| emccormick | The boston one was a stage and slide show fest | 14:28 |
| emccormick | interesting stuff, but only interaction was Q % A | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | And yes, 2 forum sessions submitted, one for each topic | 14:29 |
| mihalis68_ | yeah, to be honest that's what I get out of ceph days - hearing presentations, very little "working group" style content | 14:29 |
| spotz | tobberydberg: Ahh cool:) | 14:29 |
| jproulx | sounds like a ceph in operation would be a good session then | 14:29 |
| mihalis68_ | ok. I'll put it on the etherpad right now | 14:29 |
| emccormick | tobberydberg Do you Think it would be useful to have a brain dump from the OS Nordic sessions as part of the Forum? | 14:30 |
| * tobberydberg can provide you with link to code if of interest | 14:30 | |
| emccormick | From your tweet it sounds like you're planning ops-ish sessions there. | 14:30 |
| mihalis68_ | let's wait and see if it gets any +1s <whistles> | 14:30 |
| tobberydberg | Yes I do, but the reason for not submitting that is mostly that I have no clue if someone will one the mouth and actually say something =) | 14:31 |
| tobberydberg | If it turns out good, I'll see if I can sneak something in, or otherwise I assume I have material for a session in Denver ... worst case | 14:32 |
| tobberydberg | Either way, will share findings from session to community... | 14:32 |
| emccormick | OK, I'm going to into distraction mode. I've just been added to a daily call at 10:30 because everyone hates me. Will try to keep an eye over here | 14:33 |
| mihalis68_ | very cool | 14:33 |
| mihalis68_ | (was responding to tobberydberg) | 14:34 |
| mihalis68_ | Ok, well by end of today all the topics need to be submitted as I understand the rules | 14:34 |
| mihalis68_ | it says "by sept 26th" | 14:34 |
| mihalis68_ | so later today I will try to check and make sure everything that got +1ed on our etherpad did get submitted | 14:35 |
| mihalis68_ | #mihalis68 to verify all approved topics actually get submitted | 14:35 |
| mihalis68_ | I did add a ceph topic to it by the way. +1 if you support it | 14:35 |
| spotz | How many sessions make it into the forum is dependednt on space and number of submittals FYI | 14:36 |
| mihalis68_ | yeah, emccormick mentioned it's tighter this time | 14:36 |
| mrhillsman | finally settled, apologies | 14:37 |
| mrhillsman | more traffic than normal | 14:37 |
| mihalis68_ | no worries | 14:37 |
| emccormick | OK Edgar responded that he will get it in this morning when he gets to the office | 14:37 |
| mihalis68_ | all we have done is discuss Forum topics and submission | 14:37 |
| mrhillsman | ok cool | 14:37 |
| mrhillsman | i'll read back through the log after meeting | 14:37 |
| mihalis68_ | there are a few on the pad and each one has someone who will submit it (moderators can change nearer the date if necessary) | 14:37 |
| mihalis68_ | did you have any ideas you wanted to bring up, mrhillsman? | 14:38 |
| mrhillsman | not at the moment, i have been doing some outreach | 14:38 |
| mihalis68_ | Ok, we seem to be done with forum topics | 14:39 |
| mihalis68_ | I jumped ahead | 14:39 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic actions | 14:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:39 | |
| mrhillsman | i think one thing from the tc meeting at the ptg that makes sense is to try and come up with catchy titles | 14:39 |
| mihalis68_ | I just tried with my ceph topic idea (see the etherpad) | 14:39 |
| mihalis68_ | Most of the work that was identified two weeks ago in Denver had an obvious owner | 14:40 |
| mihalis68_ | and work is progressing and being checked off on the etherpad I made to collect that | 14:40 |
| mihalis68_ | the one thing that needed more debate was all the "we should" items from the containerisation session | 14:40 |
| mihalis68_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-denver-2018-further-work see this page to see what I mean | 14:41 |
| mihalis68_ | I don't have any other actions to report on | 14:41 |
| mihalis68_ | one I was hoping to check on was VW was due to contact someone from CERN about gauging their interest in a possible meetup in Feb/march 2019 | 14:42 |
| mihalis68_ | I guess I can follow up with Matt in person on this | 14:43 |
| mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68 chase vw about cern outreach | 14:43 |
| mihalis68_ | I think that could be pivotal in making it happen and being hugely successful, especially if we can land a venue soon-ish (I am working on that) | 14:43 |
| mihalis68_ | any other actions? | 14:43 |
| mrhillsman | i can follow up with VW_ | 14:44 |
| mrhillsman | will probably see him at some point in the uc channel | 14:44 |
| mihalis68_ | ah ok, cool | 14:44 |
| mrhillsman | he has been a bit tied up with the new job of course | 14:44 |
| mihalis68_ | understandable | 14:44 |
| mrhillsman | i'll cc you | 14:44 |
| mihalis68_ | great, thanks, much appreciated | 14:44 |
| mihalis68_ | alright. It seems that with a small attendance and various people distracted, this meeting is running out of steam | 14:45 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic any other business | 14:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "any other business (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:45 | |
| mrhillsman | nothing from me | 14:46 |
| spotz | I'm good | 14:46 |
| mihalis68_ | quick poll: who'll be in berlin? | 14:46 |
| mihalis68_ | o/ | 14:46 |
| spotz | o/ | 14:46 |
| shintaro | o/ | 14:46 |
| jproulx | o/ | 14:46 |
| mihalis68_ | volunteer to seek out a venue for ops social? | 14:46 |
| mihalis68_ | maybe with a non-alcoholic entertainment option (games has worked wel) | 14:47 |
| spotz | I think the first question is where everyone is staying | 14:47 |
| mihalis68_ | I recall jill rouleau asking for that to be considered | 14:47 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm not booked yet | 14:47 |
| mihalis68_ | maybe everyone work out where they'll stay for next week and then we can look into social options? | 14:48 |
| spotz | hotels are all over the place so narrowing things down might help? Or atleast someplace off the U or S lines | 14:48 |
| mihalis68_ | I've never been to germany so no idea at all | 14:48 |
| shintaro | I haven't booked either | 14:48 |
| mihalis68_ | I only got explicit clearance this morning | 14:48 |
| spotz | I've never been to Berlin. I've been to Germany. I'm still not booked:) | 14:48 |
| mihalis68_ | ok. Not an action per se, but if we all look into where we're staying, we'll have a better chance of coordinating a night out | 14:49 |
| spotz | Trying to keep price down and not be too far from everyone | 14:49 |
| spotz | +1 | 14:49 |
| spotz | And also when everyone is coming in | 14:49 |
| mihalis68_ | My team isn't interested apart from me. Lots of young kids and/or visa concerns | 14:49 |
| mihalis68_ | well, maybe they might be interested, but just can't go | 14:50 |
| mihalis68_ | ok think we're done | 14:50 |
| spotz | At least from NYC you have flight options, wasn't much from Austiin/San Antonio | 14:50 |
| mihalis68_ | true | 14:50 |
| mihalis68_ | ok thanks everyone | 14:50 |
| spotz | thanks | 14:51 |
| mihalis68_ | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion of topics related to operating Openstack infrastructures at scale | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators | Logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/" | 14:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 25 14:51:06 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-09-25-14.00.html | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-09-25-14.00.txt | 14:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-09-25-14.00.log.html | 14:51 |
| shintaro | thank you all | 14:51 |
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| * jproulx has submitted "Developing a Standard Deployment Tools Comparison" Forum session, but having trouble adding shintaro seems it will only accept one moderator despite indications to the contrary like "add another moderator" button... | 14:56 | |
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| emccormick | o/ | 15:08 |
| emccormick | :D | 15:08 |
| emccormick | I too have not booked | 15:09 |
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| spotz | jproulx: You can email speakersupport to get him added | 15:21 |
| jproulx | spotz already done :) | 15:29 |
| spotz | jproulx: Nice:) | 15:29 |
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| mihalis68_ | excellent, thanks jproulx | 16:06 |
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