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mihalis68 | I might be delayed getting here at 10am (20 minutes from now) for the Ops Meetups team meeting, so I have update the minutes with my updates | 13:41 |
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mihalis68 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 13:41 |
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smcginnis | Thanks mihalis68 | 13:45 |
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mihalis68 | #startmeeting ops-meetup-team | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 26 14:00:26 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 14:00 |
mihalis68 | I'm here for now, might get pulled way | 14:00 |
mihalis68 | *away | 14:00 |
smcginnis | mihalis68: Yay, was just about to start it. | 14:00 |
mihalis68 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:00 |
mihalis68 | that's our agenda today | 14:00 |
mihalis68 | I am going to be selfish and dump my updates | 14:01 |
mihalis68 | there's a survey linked to the agenda | 14:01 |
smcginnis | ++ | 14:01 |
mihalis68 | we only have 20 respondents so far | 14:01 |
mihalis68 | thanks to those that shared it. I saw several tweets - much appreciated | 14:01 |
mihalis68 | I shared it with the mailing list | 14:01 |
mihalis68 | responses are going a different way than I expected | 14:01 |
smcginnis | Wow, so 5 days with ops up front. I'm a little surprised, but that's great. | 14:02 |
mihalis68 | strongly skewed towards : considering going vs. not (I guess this is because people can't be bothered with a survey for something they don't care about) | 14:02 |
smcginnis | Hah, true | 14:02 |
mihalis68 | but then yes people like a 5 day event clearly, and they so far prefer ops events up front | 14:02 |
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mihalis68 | ops events after is gaining ground though, hence I want to get a better sample size | 14:02 |
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mihalis68 | I looked into making results into a doc, but that costs money | 14:03 |
mihalis68 | maybe I will do that, just didn't explore any further | 14:03 |
mihalis68 | the other action I had was to reawaken the threads on the 3 ops related docs that need new owners | 14:03 |
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smcginnis | I think I've taken screen shots and put relevant things in a Google doc for past surveys I've done. | 14:03 |
* smcginnis is cheap | 14:03 | |
mihalis68 | I don't understand the technical lingo that mailing list thread got into, so it's hard for me to work with it | 14:03 |
smcginnis | mihalis68: Do you have a link to the thread> | 14:05 |
mihalis68 | yes I will either share full results via a data export, or screenshots | 14:05 |
mihalis68 | I was planning to share with everybody who turns up here for the meeting | 14:05 |
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mihalis68 | let me grab the link to that thread now | 14:05 |
emccormick | hi guys. On a call but am here | 14:07 |
smcginnis | Hey emccormick o/ | 14:07 |
mihalis68 | this is the first message in the thread : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2018-May/015318.html | 14:07 |
smcginnis | mihalis68: Thanks, I'll try to read through there a little later and see if there is anything I can help with on the technical jargon side. | 14:07 |
mihalis68 | #topic actions | 14:08 |
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mihalis68 | I forgot to set topic. Those were my actions I believe | 14:08 |
mihalis68 | anyone else care to report on past actions? It's an honor system, nobody has time to track other peoples actions :) | 14:08 |
emccormick | I have no actions | 14:09 |
VW | howdy folks | 14:09 |
VW | here - but in another meeting at the same time | 14:09 |
mihalis68 | welcome welcome | 14:09 |
mihalis68 | I think the only exciting thing this week is the survey | 14:10 |
mihalis68 | please can you guys also boost the signal on that? | 14:10 |
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mihalis68 | handy link to Sean's tweet: | 14:11 |
mihalis68 | #link https://twitter.com/SeanTMcGinnis/status/1010270670188621825 | 14:11 |
mihalis68 | #topic PTG | 14:11 |
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mihalis68 | happy to say my employer is likely to send 3 of us | 14:12 |
jamesmcarthur | That’s great! | 14:12 |
mihalis68 | so attendance should be "current+3" as we | 14:12 |
mihalis68 | we're definitely not booked yet | 14:12 |
mihalis68 | i saw correspondence about facilities for the ops corner | 14:12 |
smcginnis | Awesome. With the survey results so far, I'm optimistic we'll get good turn out here. | 14:13 |
mihalis68 | Sean responded with the same info I might have sent so I assume that's squared away for now? | 14:13 |
smcginnis | Oh right, I was going to mention someone else should respond to that too. | 14:13 |
smcginnis | Oh good, I was hoping I wasn't too far off base. | 14:13 |
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kendallwaters | the only thing still outstanding is how many days and what days y'all want those rooms | 14:14 |
mihalis68 | the required facilities are actually on our wiki, see Venue Selection in #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups | 14:14 |
mihalis68 | maybe we should pick an end-date for the survey. How is end of this week? Close the survey Sunday night, results shared next Monday? | 14:15 |
jamesmcarthur | the sooner the better | 14:16 |
mihalis68 | not my decision - can leave it longer or close it up sooner | 14:16 |
smcginnis | kendallwaters: Is there a date you need things finalized? | 14:16 |
jamesmcarthur | Just from a planning perspective. | 14:16 |
mihalis68 | I would think some more smoke signals about it saying closing soon might flush out some more responses | 14:17 |
mihalis68 | deadlines and all that | 14:17 |
kendallwaters | basically just ASAP so we can finalize space planning. the sooner its finalized, the sooner we can share it with teams | 14:17 |
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smcginnis | mihalis68: ++ | 14:18 |
mihalis68 | the survey only just made it into last week. I think we missed most people by creting it friday afternoon in late late spring | 14:18 |
mihalis68 | so if we closed it end of Friday, that would be 5 clear business days | 14:18 |
mihalis68 | given the time-sensitive nature, that seems reasonable? Input very much requested here | 14:19 |
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smcginnis | Not ideal, but I think given where we are it's good enough and may get folks moving on taking the survey. | 14:19 |
jamesmcarthur | The rest of the project teams will probably have to be notified sooner than that, so we might just put a “TBS” on the Ops rooms | 14:19 |
jamesmcarthur | TBD not TBS :) | 14:19 |
jamesmcarthur | That way folks can start planning their travel | 14:20 |
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jamesmcarthur | With the understanding we will announce Ops first thing next week | 14:20 |
smcginnis | I think we can agree on the room. Is the issue on whether that room can be reused for other teams during the week? | 14:20 |
jamesmcarthur | Does that work? | 14:20 |
kendallwaters | yeah, we need to know what days you want it so we can use for other teams on the days y'all arent using it | 14:21 |
jamesmcarthur | smcginnis: also so we can put the official calendar out for travel planning | 14:21 |
kendallwaters | but if you want all 5 days, that is fine. it would just be nice to know asap | 14:21 |
smcginnis | Can we go under the assumption that it will be all 5 days for now, then if the survey results support it we can free it up for ad hoc scheduling or other last minute adjustments? | 14:22 |
kendallwaters | yup, we can definitely do that | 14:22 |
mihalis68 | Ok, so it sounds like locking down the ops sub-event for early next week is the *latest* we can go, which means close the survey Friday? The responses for ops days first vs last is only 7:3 in favor of first, which could swing | 14:22 |
smcginnis | mihalis68: Announce a Friday deadline but collect results Monday morning in case there are any stragglers over the weekend? | 14:23 |
VW | I'll poke the email lists again about answering the survey | 14:23 |
VW | so they hear reminders from someone different | 14:23 |
VW | ++ smcginnis | 14:23 |
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mihalis68 | I feel like we've veered slightly off track here. I wasn't thinking that ops people wanted a 5 day ops event | 14:23 |
VW | no, I think she just meant we could retain the space | 14:24 |
mihalis68 | it's a 2-day ops event alongside a longer event and the question about which they are more interested in is regarding would they attend JUST the 2-day | 14:24 |
VW | yeah | 14:24 |
smcginnis | mihalis68: Yeah, I'm surprised about the 5 day preference. | 14:24 |
mihalis68 | do we need the "ops room for more than 2- days? | 14:24 |
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smcginnis | I wonder if they want to be there for 5 days in order to attend the project team sessions but really only want the first couple of days for ops focused sessions. | 14:25 |
mihalis68 | I like sean's idea of soft close survey friday but ACTUALLY close it end of weekend | 14:25 |
shintaro | hi | 14:25 |
smcginnis | Hey shintaro | 14:25 |
mihalis68 | hi | 14:25 |
shintaro | Sorry to be late | 14:26 |
mihalis68 | no problem | 14:26 |
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mihalis68 | there's a survey for ops linked to the agenda | 14:26 |
mihalis68 | please fwd to potentially-interested operators. It's about PTG, Denver, September | 14:26 |
shintaro | I've posted mine | 14:27 |
mihalis68 | great | 14:27 |
shintaro | I will forwad it to our regional slack channel | 14:27 |
mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to close the ops survey before Monday at the latest so that the planning team has firm info start of next week | 14:28 |
mihalis68 | any more regarding PTG today? | 14:29 |
smcginnis | nope | 14:29 |
jamesmcarthur | No sir | 14:29 |
shintaro | So Ops get free Summit ticket by attending the PTG? | 14:29 |
kendallwaters | yes sir! | 14:29 |
jamesmcarthur | Correct | 14:29 |
shintaro | Or do we need ATC or AUC? | 14:29 |
jamesmcarthur | Actually the next two summits | 14:30 |
smcginnis | It's a good selling point we need to make sure they know. That helps justify the price. | 14:30 |
mihalis68 | is that linked to the PTG page? I might retweet the survey highlighting this | 14:30 |
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mihalis68 | it's definitely a nice incentive | 14:30 |
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jamesmcarthur | I think it’s on there. Will try to dig up when on my laptop | 14:31 |
* mnaser is late but me wants to attend ops and project teams too | 14:31 | |
mihalis68 | I'll research that myself or if anyone finds a link email me | 14:31 |
shintaro | yes we should promote that | 14:31 |
mihalis68 | #topic possible regional event | 14:31 |
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jamesmcarthur | Should be in he FAQ on ptg page | 14:31 |
mihalis68 | I discussed the suitability of an ops meetup to be hosted at Bloomberg HQ | 14:31 |
mihalis68 | that type of event (strictly) is acceptable | 14:31 |
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mihalis68 | but we can't redefine it and then still have an expectation of using the facilities | 14:32 |
mihalis68 | there's no real plan here, except to model on regional meetups such as Shintaro has run successfully | 14:32 |
mihalis68 | the one other constraint would be to find a time that doesn't undermine the main events. I think there's enough time in the year | 14:32 |
mihalis68 | other than that no updates on that right now | 14:33 |
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smcginnis | I do still like the idea. | 14:33 |
mihalis68 | there was definitely strong interest in a regional NE USA event, though | 14:33 |
mnaser | sorry if this is a misplaced question but i assume regional events will happen alongside the "ops meetup" at the ptg? | 14:33 |
shintaro | Our regional event is always colocated with other events such as OpenStack Days so not so much work in logistics. | 14:33 |
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mihalis68 | there are people doing openstack in NE USA who can swing "train to NYC" but not "plane to Denver" expenses | 14:33 |
mnaser | so its not one or the other? | 14:34 |
mihalis68 | definitely not "alongside". I'll be in denver for PTG, definitely not confusing the issue with something local at same time | 14:34 |
mihalis68 | shintaro we no longer seem to have openstack days in this part of the world, hence the desire to kickstart something | 14:35 |
emccormick | would be nice to have one up here for sure | 14:35 |
emccormick | don't know why the last one completely failed. | 14:36 |
smcginnis | I wonder if there is anyone in that region that would be interested in pulling together an OpenStack Days event if they can do it along side an ops meetup. | 14:36 |
emccormick | Although I have a feeling it was organizer fatigue | 14:36 |
mnaser | 'up here' being? | 14:36 |
emccormick | The Openstack DC meetup is deader than dead | 14:36 |
emccormick | 'up here' being NE US | 14:36 |
emccormick | Northeast Corridor (DC -> NYC -> Boston) | 14:36 |
shintaro | understand the situation. We are having a hard time finding a sponsor for OpenStack Days event. | 14:36 |
mnaser | smcginnis: not to sidetrack the meeting, but the biggest problem i've noticed was the fact that if no marketing people are involved, people do it out of their own time, and they get tired at some point. | 14:37 |
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smcginnis | True | 14:37 |
mnaser | and these events are expensive so it becomes hard to justify the roi to sponsor them | 14:37 |
emccormick | Having just gone to an Openstack Northern Virginia meetup for a talk Robert did, I know there were about 20 people there, and he said 3 people showed up in NYC | 14:37 |
emccormick | crazy | 14:37 |
mihalis68 | OpenStack Days East was in NYC last time it happened. The following year they couldn't find sponsors. Thus we need to lower expectations of what can be done. An ops meetup is a non-vendor-y working session. It so happens bloomberg could host that | 14:37 |
mnaser | given the lack of openstack days (or 'openinfra' as we might call it lately).. i wouldn't look at colocating both events | 14:38 |
mihalis68 | which events are you referring to? | 14:38 |
smcginnis | Yeah, I guess keeping these a little more low key, low overhead is probably best. | 14:38 |
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mihalis68 | the current status is regional OS events in NE USA are : zero | 14:39 |
emccormick | I was talking local meetups which are also dead in this area. | 14:39 |
mihalis68 | so a regional ops meetup might work and I think my company could host it. Given a venue, the rest of the costs and logistics are fairly low and manageable | 14:39 |
jamesmcarthur | FWIW we are aware of the issue and working with the ambassadors to try to help those regional events come back to life. | 14:40 |
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smcginnis | mihalis68: Great to hear. Let us know if it looks like things can come together and if there's any help you need. | 14:41 |
mihalis68 | will do | 14:41 |
mihalis68 | I think the next thing I put on the agenda was the docs thing, but the etherpad isn't working for me right now | 14:41 |
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mihalis68 | #topic docs | 14:42 |
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mihalis68 | to sum up, there's a thread on the mailing list, following-on from a Vancouver session | 14:42 |
mihalis68 | there's interest in preserving three ops related docs, but changing their home and owners | 14:42 |
mihalis68 | if we can just work out the plan for that bit, there may be enough volunteer effort to get these updated and alive again | 14:43 |
mihalis68 | Sean can maybe decode the jargon for me, we'll see | 14:43 |
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mihalis68 | (the mailing list thread is linked above) | 14:43 |
mihalis68 | #mihalis68 to try to awaken the docs thread (continues from last week) | 14:43 |
mihalis68 | ok. 15 minutes left. Think we're nearly done | 14:44 |
mihalis68 | #topic any other business | 14:44 |
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mihalis68 | anything? | 14:44 |
emccormick | Do we have info on room allocation for Ops meetup in Denver? | 14:44 |
mihalis68 | there's a thread about the faciliites on the operators mailing list. | 14:44 |
smcginnis | emccormick: Would be great if you could respond to that with any input. | 14:45 |
emccormick | ok, will go find. I'm way behind | 14:45 |
mihalis68 | Sean responded so far | 14:45 |
mihalis68 | It seemed probably sufficient. I'll take another look too | 14:45 |
emccormick | have a new customer going live with a big project next week so my life is hell right now | 14:45 |
mihalis68 | I'm a little bit flooded right now too (it's a lot more openstack for us, so yay, but also ouch) | 14:45 |
emccormick | just wanted to be able to ponder on single vs. multi-track and what sort of schedule we might have | 14:46 |
mihalis68 | I think we'll have the "shape" of this event early next week. Let's dive into the details then? | 14:46 |
smcginnis | Multi-track is my only concern with the current proposal. | 14:46 |
mihalis68 | it's in Denver, so one track could be openstack one track could be cann... mountains? | 14:47 |
emccormick | Well, the survey may tell us if we even have enough bodies to justify 2 tracks | 14:47 |
smcginnis | Hah! | 14:47 |
smcginnis | emccormick: True | 14:47 |
mihalis68 | I think for it to be multi-track we'd need a compelling 2nd track idea ASAP | 14:47 |
smcginnis | There's also a nice brewery around the corner with a good patio that could provide another track. | 14:47 |
mihalis68 | openstack is "big in telecom" in APAC | 14:47 |
mihalis68 | that was somewhat obvious | 14:47 |
kendallwaters | i can look into another space option for ops if what is proposed right now won't work | 14:47 |
mihalis68 | that's the built-in track we're not supposed to talk about! | 14:47 |
emccormick | GET /api/v1/puff-puff-pass | 14:48 |
smcginnis | kendallwaters: Maybe we can use the ad hoc scheduling if we only need one or two extra separate sessions? | 14:48 |
mihalis68 | heh. In reality I regard sugar as a dangerous drug I should avoid these days. No need for more ... stuff | 14:48 |
smcginnis | mihalis68: Indeed | 14:48 |
emccormick | I approve of the Brewery Track | 14:48 |
mihalis68 | does anyone have a non-comical proposal for 2nd track? | 14:49 |
smcginnis | :) | 14:49 |
kendallwaters | smcginnis: i may have a 2 separate room option i can offer | 14:49 |
mihalis68 | bear in mind that ops coming to Denver will have lots of other possibilities for their timetables already | 14:49 |
emccormick | There's lots of openstacky shops in Denver / Fort Collins | 14:49 |
emccormick | what are they? | 14:49 |
mihalis68 | personal view: 2-track ops meetup colocated with dev teams in PTG would be ... INSANE | 14:49 |
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emccormick | it could be a bit of overload | 14:50 |
mihalis68 | VW last Q. today is whether we should make the ops bit dual track | 14:50 |
emccormick | maybe the second track is: Go to dev things | 14:50 |
mihalis68 | right | 14:50 |
VW | sorry - VPN client hosed my laptop - just got back on | 14:50 |
mihalis68 | it's your pathetic little startup-y employer right? Oh no, wait... | 14:51 |
emccormick | haha | 14:51 |
smcginnis | Yeah, I guess that makes sense. One track for ops and x tracks for ops to sit in on with the rest of the PTG is probably more than sufficient. | 14:51 |
mihalis68 | here's a nickel kid... | 14:51 |
VW | :P | 14:51 |
VW | yes - that sounds good | 14:51 |
VW | with a couple of large sessions for all the OPs folks, I'm assuming | 14:51 |
emccormick | I'm the one with the pathetic startup-y employer :D | 14:51 |
mihalis68 | Ok I feel we have rough consensus on everything discussed today, actions issued, work to do. Not much more meeting time | 14:52 |
smcginnis | OK, so one room is good, just need to figure out specific dates. | 14:52 |
mihalis68 | agreed | 14:52 |
mihalis68 | emccormick I was trying to gently pull VW's leg after he hinted at large scale events coming up | 14:52 |
emccormick | I'm still in the Wednesday / Thursday camp. I want to go to all the cross-project arguments | 14:52 |
mihalis68 | "oh yeah, we're donna do huge thi... dammit network fault" is just funny | 14:53 |
smcginnis | emccormick: That's what I think would be the most useful. | 14:53 |
emccormick | heh | 14:53 |
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shintaro | We actually had 3 room reserved but used only 2. the other one was used for people to discuss in small groups so it would be good to have one small room for after-session discussions | 14:53 |
shintaro | That's in Tokyo Ops Meetups | 14:53 |
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emccormick | +1 | 14:53 |
mihalis68 | I am also hoping for cross-community days 1,2 and then focused days 3,4 | 14:53 |
smcginnis | I think the outside area with tables will be good for smaller ad hoc discussions. | 14:53 |
mihalis68 | VW my network wasn't working just now, I'm in somewhat similar situatipon | 14:54 |
smcginnis | It is separated enough from the main thoroughfare that it should work well for conversations. | 14:54 |
shintaro | that sounds sufficient | 14:54 |
jamesmcarthur | That’s what we were thinking as well smcginnis | 14:54 |
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emccormick | or the brewery | 14:55 |
shintaro | :) | 14:55 |
mihalis68 | Ok so several of us will look at the facilities email thread and chime in | 14:55 |
jamesmcarthur | Plus I liked the idea that we could do coffee and such inside that room just for Ops Meetuo folks | 14:55 |
emccormick | <--One track mind | 14:55 |
smcginnis | :) | 14:55 |
mihalis68 | yes this is why 2-track is challenging for us erik - we start off with one track booked | 14:55 |
mihalis68 | I think we're done. Last call | 14:56 |
smcginnis | jamesmcarthur: Any chance of at least a large monitor that could be put up on one of the rounds if we had a break out of a small group that wanted to go over something? | 14:56 |
smcginnis | Just curious - I think someone's 15" laptop monitor can work well too. | 14:56 |
kendallwaters | i can look into the monitor option | 14:57 |
smcginnis | mihalis68: Yeah, nothing else important to discuss in the meeting. | 14:57 |
smcginnis | kendallwaters: Thanks! | 14:57 |
mihalis68 | thanks all | 14:57 |
mihalis68 | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Discussion of topics related to operating Openstack infrastructures at scale | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators | Logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/" | 14:57 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 26 14:57:36 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
shintaro | thanks | 14:57 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-06-26-14.00.html | 14:57 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-06-26-14.00.txt | 14:57 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-06-26-14.00.log.html | 14:57 |
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jamesmcarthur | Good day all! | 14:57 |
smcginnis | Thanks jamesmcarthur and kendallwaters! | 14:57 |
emccormick | have a good week :) | 14:58 |
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emccormick | where is this magical mailing list thread? | 15:01 |
emccormick | the one on facilities? Totally not finding it | 15:01 |
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mihalis68 | sorry, I see you were omitted. I've replied adding you, I assume you can read the scroll back to catch up? | 15:07 |
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mihalis68 | I haven't been able to find a statement about the free summit tickets that come with PTG ticket purchase on the PTG related web pges | 15:40 |
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smcginnis | openstack ptg | 15:46 |
smcginnis | Darn window focus!! | 15:46 |
mihalis68 | nice password dude | 15:47 |
smcginnis | Hah, no. Google search. :D | 15:48 |
smcginnis | Yeah, I thought someone said it was mentioned in the FAQ, but if it is, I'm not finding it here: https://www.openstack.org/ptg/#tab_faq | 15:49 |
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spotz | I need to get the ops meeting on my calendar:( | 16:00 |
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mihalis68 | I can do that. If you want to share an email address that can receive calendar messages I'll add you | 16:40 |
mihalis68 | I organise the core team this way - we've realised this meeting has to fight for attention with all the other things distracting peopel | 16:40 |
smcginnis | mihalis68: I just responded to that ML thread with a proposal to move forward. Please take a look when you get a chance and respond with any feedback. | 16:42 |
smcginnis | And anyone else interested in the docs discussion. ^^ | 16:43 |
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mihalis68 | oh wow thanks Sean | 16:44 |
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mihalis68 | will definitely review and try to get back into the flow there | 16:44 |
smcginnis | mihalis68: If the plan sounds good to you, I can work on some of the logistics to get thing in place. Then hopefully you can use your limited free time to actually do what's important with actually getting the docs moved over. | 16:45 |
mihalis68 | I'm on board | 16:47 |
mihalis68 | I just speed-read it, sounds good to me | 16:47 |
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smcginnis | Great | 16:47 |
mihalis68 | responded | 16:48 |
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smcginnis | Perfect. I will wait a bit to see if anyone points out any reason why it's not a good plan, and if nothing will proceed and copy you on anything. | 16:50 |
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smcginnis | Oh, there's already https://github.com/openstack/operations-guide, so might just be a matter of "unretiring" it. | 16:54 |
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spotz | mihalis68: That'd be great, amy@demarco.com | 17:43 |
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smcginnis | No spotz email address? :) | 17:45 |
spotz | Well I own abbeyroaddals.com, withoutaclue.com, stackymcstackface.com(I think .com),,,, | 17:46 |
spotz | I did like your email smcginnis I was out feeding the horse when I read it | 17:47 |
smcginnis | spotz: I want to see you use spotz@stackymcstackface.com :D | 17:48 |
smcginnis | spotz: And thanks! | 17:48 |
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spotz | heheh, let me see if it's even pointing to the mail server | 17:49 |
spotz | I'll reply when I get a chance, doing ciber related quiz questions right now:) | 17:50 |
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spotz | cinder even | 17:50 |
smcginnis | Awesome | 17:51 |
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mihalis68 | I always enjoy boaty mcboatface-like jokes, but then I remember the Henry Worsley story and then I'm a tad bit sad (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/02/12/the-white-darkness) | 18:04 |
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emccormick | spotz: Do you have an actual horse, or was this euphamism? | 18:14 |
spotz | emccormick: One horse in the backyard retired and then a pony I compete | 18:15 |
emccormick | mihalis68 Thanks for adding me. Will catch up | 18:15 |
emccormick | spotz: Awesome! I used to ride hunters and jumpers. Now I just ride badly when I go visit my mom since she's the only one of us with time for such things anymore ;) | 18:16 |
mihalis68 | Cool | 18:16 |
spotz | emccormick: Cool, the old man was my AA hunter, I'm doing the pony in Dressage | 18:17 |
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emccormick | spotz: I'm super jealous. Wish I still had a horse. Must be nice having them right out back. I grew up on 5 acres with an 8 stall barn. Now I have a townhouse with a 20' x 30' yard. | 18:29 |
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spotz | emccormick: I always had to board until we moved to TX, bought the property with the old man's retirement in mind. Pony is boarded out, ride every morning | 18:30 |
mihalis68 | emccormick: I bet you can part at or near your house? | 18:31 |
mihalis68 | *park | 18:31 |
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emccormick | There used to be a couple stables within 15 miles of here. Now I have to go out to Middleburg, Culpeper, etc. All at least a 40 minute ride each way | 18:34 |
emccormick | Add to that my blind $#@ can't drive and my wife is allergic to everything in and around a barn so I'd be racking up a pretty big Uber bill ;) | 18:35 |
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spotz | Middleburg area is so pretty though! | 18:37 |
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