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| mihalis68 | I'm going to be late or absent for the ops meetups team meeting today. I'm due to be in a meeting which is looking like starting late enough to clash | 13:51 |
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| emccormick | o/ | 14:04 |
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| smcginnis | I forget, what did we decide to do for the meetings? | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | there was agreement to revert to bi-weekly by default ramping up to weekly nearer events | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | but that was amongst whoever happened to be in the room | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | e.g. can't remember if VW was there | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | (I'm here because I haven't been summoned yet :| ) | 14:08 |
| emccormick | heh | 14:09 |
| emccormick | I think it's just me | 14:09 |
| emccormick | so I guess maybe it'll be start again next week. | 14:10 |
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| emccormick | Would like to find out status on the git repos and resurrecting the ops guide in code before then though. Was Doug the one to do that? | 14:11 |
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| mihalis68 | wasn't jon proulx going to create the repo? | 14:13 |
| mihalis68 | I made an email thread and last I checked there was debate and suggestions about the name and location | 14:13 |
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| VW | I was there | 14:17 |
| VW | sorry - had a monitor turned off on accident | 14:18 |
| emccormick | hi VW | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | The docs session definitely had a consensus that the 3 docs would be better still maintained as code but in a new or perhaps multiple new repos in a different location (they are already ejected from or deprecated within core docs repo) | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | thats ops guide, architecture guide, ha guide | 14:19 |
| emccormick | I fear it will lie fallow if we don't light the fire again | 14:20 |
| mihalis68 | ha guide also had a volunteer to rewrite IFF the changes will be allowed to land (Adam Speirs) | 14:20 |
| emccormick | Yeah I want to get him started on it while there's momentum | 14:20 |
| emccormick | Though it already has a home I guess so maybe just a nudge | 14:20 |
| emccormick | He could edit in place and we could move it later if needs be. | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | the email thread I started has paused in disarray, basically, with disagreement over what was agreed | 14:21 |
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| emccormick | Would you like to refocus it? | 14:22 |
| emccormick | We also have that team of Redhat writers that could work on this stuff | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | ok. Will review the discussion and try to reset to what the plan was. | 14:22 |
| emccormick | which seems like a resource not to be squandered | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | agreed | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | I wonder if that guy recorded his name on the etherpad | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | I was reminded how important that is when I reviewed an etherpad only the next day and couldn't follow who said what | 14:23 |
| emccormick | I have it | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | you dont have the participants box top right after everyone disconnects from it, I'd forgotten that (although I always put my name) | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | ok great, nice work Erik | 14:24 |
| VW | yes - good call, sir | 14:24 |
| emccormick | Derek Kadzow | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | #startmeeting ops-meetup-team | 14:25 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 5 14:25:16 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:25 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:25 | |
| emccormick | Cadzow sowrry | 14:25 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | we're effectively doing this without doing it, so... | 14:25 |
| emccormick | dcadzow@redhat.com | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | no prepared agenda today | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | things discussed so far : meeting cadence and restarting the docs process | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | for the docs process, mihalis68 will refocus the email thread | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to try and wake the docs thread up and refocus | 14:26 |
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| mihalis68 | #info jproulx had volunteered to look into a new repo for the docs coming out of core docs | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | (ha guide, arch guide, operators guide) | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | I'm up for working on those docs (all of them) | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | #info a gentleman from redhat (Derek Kadzow) had mentioned his team could also contribute | 14:28 |
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| mihalis68 | #info Adam Speirs had also said he could rewrite the HA doc if he could expect success in landing the changes | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | #topic meeting cadence | 14:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "meeting cadence (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:28 | |
| mihalis68 | I think there was some support for reverting the meetings to bi-weekly until we get near an event | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | all: thoughts? | 14:28 |
| VW | I think that makes a lot of sense to me | 14:29 |
| emccormick | yes let's go to every 2 weeks | 14:29 |
| emccormick | we can discusss reverting in August | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | so next week? Or two weeks from now? | 14:29 |
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| mihalis68 | would it help if we actually did meeting invites for the core team? I am offering to do so | 14:30 |
| emccormick | Yes apparently we need reminders | 14:30 |
| VW | that would be great | 14:30 |
| emccormick | especially if we're going to 2 weeks | 14:30 |
| VW | but my email for Openstack stuff is going to change | 14:30 |
| VW | so, hold off on adding me to any till next week when the new one is up and working :) | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | ok, so as "person who often chairs" (the most formal description that I think fits) I'll undertake to keep the core team (as per the wiki) supplied with calendar entries for these meetings. | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | it helps to fight for your time for this activity vs. your day jobs | 14:31 |
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| mihalis68 | ok so for now myself erik melvin shintaro | 14:32 |
| mihalis68 | I would add Sean, but he's not on the team page | 14:32 |
| emccormick | Maybe he should be ;) | 14:32 |
| mihalis68 | he has a lot of official openstack responsibility already obviously | 14:32 |
| mihalis68 | I'll ask him! :) | 14:32 |
| VW | yeah - he's such an great contributor to this | 14:32 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to see if sean will accept being on the official core ops meetups team roster | 14:32 |
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| VW | and I'll get you the @salesforce email as soon as I have it | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | I agree. feels like he's on the team, but pushing responsibility on others is not right in this context | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | VW great. | 14:33 |
| emccormick | Should we talk Denver for a moment? | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | So we're trying to do a formal meeting next week then, but after that every other week? | 14:33 |
| emccormick | I think 2 weeks from today is sufficient | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | Ok, 1 vote for bi-weekly from today and no other votes. Motion carried :) | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | #topic Denver PTG/Ops Meetups | 14:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Denver PTG/Ops Meetups (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)" | 14:35 | |
| emccormick | So I'm wondering if it's possible to get a headcount of ops-ish registrants | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | I don't even know if I'll be going yet | 14:35 |
| emccormick | to see where we're at. We used to be able to see but obviously we won't control the Eventbrite this time. | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | We could perhaps do a SurveyMonkey survey asking for "interest" | 14:36 |
| VW | Lauren and Jimmy were going to pull a list of opish registrants | 14:36 |
| VW | I'll ping them | 14:36 |
| VW | jamesmcarthur: ^ :D | 14:36 |
| emccormick | we should probably send an [ADHD] email to the ops list with a nudge for people | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | interest in attending 2 days, 5 days etc would be good | 14:36 |
| emccormick | if not now, then soon | 14:36 |
| emccormick | that seems fine. We used something for a poll before for locations | 14:37 |
| jamesmcarthur | VW: I'll take another look at registrants | 14:37 |
| emccormick | I forget now what the thing was | 14:37 |
| emccormick | Hi Jimmy | 14:38 |
| emccormick | I wasn't able to register early bird sadly, but I am still planning on going | 14:38 |
| emccormick | He who approves things ignored me for a month :P | 14:39 |
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| emccormick | Anyone remember what the poll thing we used was? | 14:39 |
| emccormick | Oh there it is. Doodle | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | surveymonkey? | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | oh that's the one, ignore me | 14:40 |
| emccormick | Anyone have an account? | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | IIRC melvin did one location poll for an ops meetup | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | I think it's free though (from a v.quick look just now) | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | what questions are we looking to ask the community? | 14:42 |
| emccormick | just interest guaging | 14:43 |
| emccormick | gauging | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | something like [] not interested [] interested in 2 days (ops) []interested in 5 days (full ptg)? | 14:43 |
| emccormick | exactly | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | ok I'll do it | 14:43 |
| emccormick | We can encourage folks to express interest so we don't have to wait for registration to find out | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to poll operators community on interest in Denver PTG | 14:43 |
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| emccormick | We should probably also spam it out beyond the ops list since, for some reason, there are lots of Ops not on the Ops list | 14:44 |
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| mihalis68 | yep. I guess it would be ok to fwd to openstack dev? | 14:44 |
| emccormick | Maybe just a quick refresher on what the deal is with the meetup this time around, a reminder that it comes with 2 free summit passes | 14:45 |
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| emccormick | could go to just openstack also | 14:45 |
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| mihalis68 | I can check with Sean whether that use of openstack dev is within AUP | 14:45 |
| emccormick | dev can probably be skipped as they'll have their own PTG spam | 14:45 |
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| jamesmcarthur | emccormick sorry about the slow approval process for your PTG pass :\ | 14:45 |
| emccormick | jamesmcarthur: NP. It was a wicked short early-bird. It was bound to happen ;). | 14:46 |
| emccormick | Life at a startup. Any email mentioning money is summarily ignored for long periods of time. | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | ok, so openstack-operators and some other openstack list? Sorry, not on any others (I can't really deal with my email inbox as it is) | 14:47 |
| VW | Operators is probably the right place to start | 14:48 |
| emccormick | The main openstack@ list | 14:48 |
| VW | and/or that ^ | 14:48 |
| emccormick | There are a number of newer operators that go there and don't even know the ops list exists | 14:48 |
| emccormick | I'd say both are reasonable | 14:48 |
| mihalis68 | ok | 14:49 |
| emccormick | and I'll tweet it out once it's up. Not that my list of followers is large or anything, but why not | 14:49 |
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| mihalis68 | ok, so this is the last meeting for two weeks. Is there any other business we should cover now? | 14:49 |
| VW | I will tweet the same | 14:49 |
| emccormick | Gotta get it all over or else they'll see a squirrel and forget to vote ;) | 14:50 |
| mihalis68 | #action vw emccormick to tweet the doodle poll once created | 14:50 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to create the doodle poll | 14:50 |
| emccormick | I have nothing else for now. | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | oh I actioned myself twice, derp | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | (for the poll) | 14:51 |
| emccormick | derp derp | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | last call for any other business | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion of topics related to operating Openstack infrastructures at scale | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators | Logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/" | 14:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 5 14:51:55 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | thanks everyone | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-06-05-14.25.html | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-06-05-14.25.txt | 14:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-06-05-14.25.log.html | 14:52 |
| mihalis68 | see you in two weeks | 14:52 |
| emccormick | Thanks mihalis68 | 14:52 |
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| smcginnis | mihalis68: Sorry, was here, then got distracted by some stuff. | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: Sure, you can add me to the wiki. I plan on still being around and helping out however I can. | 15:11 |
| mihalis68 | Excellent! | 15:11 |
| mihalis68 | :) | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | And good plan on the doodle poll to openstack@ and openstack-operators@. I think there are probably a large set of potentially interested folks that are on one or the other. | 15:11 |
| mihalis68 | any preference on which email (in case I find multiple ones for you), Sean? | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | Hmm, either gmail.com or huawei.com work for me. I tend to use my GMail one most often for upstream activities. | 15:12 |
| mihalis68 | ugh, i suspect I've been using an old one at gmx since gmail suggests that first | 15:13 |
| mihalis68 | gmail it is | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: Oh right, that one works too. :) | 15:13 |
| mihalis68 | ah ok good! | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | But that was/is originally intended just to have somewhere for all the ML stuff to go. | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | I tried having it sent to me work email, then my gmail, and finally decided I needed to completely separate it. | 15:14 |
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| mihalis68 | mailing list traffic in primary inbox = death of email | 15:16 |
| mihalis68 | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ops_Meetups_Team tada! | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | \o/ | 15:19 |
| mihalis68 | \m/ | 15:19 |
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