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| pbielak | Hi! I'm conducting some research about the nova scheduler logs verbosity. Did you ever encounter any situation, where you didn't feel satisfied with the amount or quality of the logs (at any log level). It is known that the nova-scheduler produces hardly any logs at INFO level. What are your experiences with the nova-scheduler in production environments? What would you like to see in the logs, what isn't printed at the m | 13:56 |
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| med_ | \o | 13:57 |
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| mihalis68 | o/ | 14:00 |
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| mihalis68 | #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 9 14:01:08 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | hello everyone | 14:01 |
| shintaro | hi | 14:01 |
| med_ | g'morn | 14:01 |
| med_ | g/eve | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | I am just getting settled at my desk, one second | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | ok. Happy New Year everyone! | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | There was no meeting last week, as we kind of expected | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | the above link is a skeletal agenda for today | 14:02 |
| shintaro | happy new year! | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | #topic actions from previous meetings | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:02 | |
| mihalis68 | I was due to stir things up around the technical agenda for Tokyo. I haven't done that, will email the list today | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | another action I had was to try to get a decision on possibly hosting the second meet up of 2018 in NYC | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | well I'm now in touch with a verizon wireless events planner. They want to make something happen | 14:03 |
| med_ | cool | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | not sure if it will be verizon hosting or jointly with us (Bloomberg) | 14:04 |
| shintaro | great | 14:04 |
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| med_ | welcome aojea | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | I also have background tasks related to getting a blog posted about the technical matters in converting the ops guide from openstack doc format to makeup for the wiki as well as launching that wikified version | 14:05 |
| aojea | o/, thx | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | unfortunately my canonical guy is very busy with meltdown/spectre and also with some openstack fixes we need backporting | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | that's it for my actions | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | anyone else have actions they wish to comment on? Its an honor system right now :) | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | it seems not? | 14:06 |
| med_ | I still owe a review of ops guide. no update | 14:06 |
| shintaro | #link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pxfp6rbxqtzsbon/AAAjWy8yvV0WRwOC4n-GZd_Xa?dl=0 | 14:06 |
| shintaro | the logo files are here. | 14:06 |
| med_ | and likely OBE at this point. | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | OBE? | 14:06 |
| med_ | overcome by events (ie, already blogged/posted) | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | I am not sure the opsguide has really been launched | 14:07 |
| med_ | but will still happen | 14:07 |
| med_ | kk | 14:07 |
| shintaro | #link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pzldafcdv91dowr/AABSGfV2sjD5h0bCnGB4hUfea?dl=0 | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | I unfortunately cannot access dropbox URLs at all from here | 14:07 |
| med_ | +1 on the new logos and ops meetup graphics | 14:07 |
| med_ | looks professional and clean | 14:08 |
| med_ | the badge/shield/diamond we selected | 14:08 |
| shintaro | I like them too. Thanks to the Foundation members | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | I'll have to take a look from home | 14:08 |
| * med_ pictures mihalis68 at NSA | 14:08 | |
| mihalis68 | heh | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | ok, with a thin turnout I will try to move things along quickly | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | #topic Tokyo | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tokyo (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:09 | |
| * med_ celebrates being called thin with a little dance | 14:09 | |
| shintaro | The Foundation will help promote the event. | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | I think we need to really get the marketing for the event going, and also get the content nailed down | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | yes | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | I suggest we all get the eventbrite link out again in front of people - tweeting it for example | 14:10 |
| shintaro | agree | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | in case anyone didn't read my update, Bloomberg is going to be covering coffee, so our social media editors can also tweet that we're "supporting" the event which they love to do | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | almost everything else is covered by NTT, so hopefully NTT will promote it's own event too | 14:11 |
| med_ | I should hope so. | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | med_ I haven't been thin for a long time :) | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | I guess people should also make travel plans now. I have my eventbrite but that's it | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | is there anyone here today who is traveling to that event from the US? | 14:12 |
| med_ | (notme) | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | I wouldn't mind trying to coordinate a bit, even if just staying in the same hotel | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | ok anything else for tokyo then? | 14:12 |
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| mihalis68 | #topic meetup #2 2018 (north america) | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "meetup #2 2018 (north america) (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:13 | |
| shintaro | I'm asking the foundation if they can find the travel tips info from the Tokyo Summit. | 14:13 |
| mihalis68 | oh yes very good idea | 14:13 |
| shintaro | I will update the wiki with the info | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | I find travel to japan somewhat intimidating due to my lack of language skills | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | however the people there are incredible about helping travelers | 14:14 |
| med_ | hmmm. I guess I have found it pretty straight-forward. Lots of English and I'm never expected to DRIVE anywhere. | 14:14 |
| med_ | <shrug> | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | witness it first hand when a staff member *ran* down the platform to inform us we were most likely on the wrong bit of the platform for the train we probably wanted | 14:15 |
| med_ | trickiest part is getting GPS up and running on the phone to help me properly orient | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | yeah, I didn't have any problems, but I had a lot of anxiety | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | crazy huh? | 14:15 |
| med_ | yep | 14:15 |
| * med_ recalls being on a track in germany when they apparently called to say the track had been changed. A friendly german saw me with this confused look and waved me over to the other track. | 14:16 | |
| mihalis68 | so... meetup 2. It look like an offer will be made to host in NYC in August, or at least in the NE USA (not entirely sure exactly which location would be best for verizon wireless) | 14:16 |
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| med_ | that sounds great mihalis68 | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | I guess I'd like initial feedback on the idea. Shintaro has said he's in favor I think | 14:16 |
| med_ | ditto | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | ok. I guess we'll fill out the template and get it out to the community | 14:17 |
| shintaro | yes. love to go back to NYC :) | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | more pingpong! | 14:17 |
| shintaro | that was fun | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to get the offer to host entered in the normal template and then out to the community for consideration | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | #topic new logo | 14:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "new logo (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:18 | |
| mihalis68 | I believe this is a done deal now. Has it been sufficiently shared with the community | 14:18 |
| shintaro | I guess so | 14:18 |
| med_ | afaik it has. | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | (I was a bit off the grid over Xmas and NYE) | 14:19 |
| med_ | seems like there was some positive feedback | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | ok good. I'l gonna tweet it again just for the heck of it | 14:19 |
| med_ | I don't recall seeing negative. | 14:19 |
| med_ | sure, fine. | 14:19 |
| shintaro | thank your | 14:19 |
| shintaro | you | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | Already looking forward to the t-shirts | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | #topic opsguide | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "opsguide (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:19 | |
| mihalis68 | already went over this during actions. The blog posting is written but AFAIK not with editor@superuser | 14:20 |
| med_ | nods | 14:20 |
| mihalis68 | and the conversion looks good to me but needs a second and third set of eyes before we share with entire community | 14:20 |
| * med_ re-ups | 14:20 | |
| mihalis68 | I will email the link later to this team | 14:20 |
| mihalis68 | perhaps sean melvin matt etc can also cast an eye (I know that interrupts work...) | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to try one more push to get feedback (via email) on ops guide wiki conversion before full public launch | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | #topic individual directors election | 14:21 |
| med_ | #topic (not that I have topic power) Other Biz: Indiv Directors vote is up. Vote Now. | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "individual directors election (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:21 | |
| med_ | jinx! | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | I presume everyone saw this | 14:21 |
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| mihalis68 | our very own melvin, sean are amongst the candidates | 14:22 |
| med_ | indeed they are. | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | voting closes end of week, please cast your vote | 14:22 |
| shintaro | great | 14:22 |
| shintaro | I will vote | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | I don't actually know the precise details of this role | 14:22 |
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| med_ | Tim Bell is also on the list | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | right | 14:22 |
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| med_ | kind of a Board member at large. | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | Ok. We have actually made it through the agenda, if rather rapidly | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | #topic any other business | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "any other business (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:23 | |
| med_ | some are corporate directors others are "at large" via vote. | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | I didn't fully follow where the debate about openstack release cadence got to | 14:23 |
| med_ | me either. | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | Thierry initially suggested some changes, but I think they were not accepted | 14:24 |
| shintaro | I didn't follow them either... | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | I tried but there's a lot of context needed for a full understanding | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | I guess we could discuss this more fruitfully were we to have Sean here, or Matt for example. They could probably give us a summary | 14:25 |
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| mihalis68 | it's a little disappointing that the result seems to be: keep on going just the same | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | would love to hear I am wrong | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | one thing that comes through is there seems to be a thinning of the ranks, teams are struggling. Anything that even hints at more work is not feasible | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | to me, releasing formally less often seemed like a possible help for that, but the people doing the work disagree | 14:27 |
| med_ | apparently TCs discussed this and no decision yet | 14:27 |
| * med_ just grepped his emails | 14:27 | |
| mihalis68 | I guess that is ongoing | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | I don't have anything else for this meeting | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | anyone else? | 14:28 |
| shintaro | none from me | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | just a quick share about openstack, we had an engineering demo of our stack running on openstack with kubernetes-managed control plane and OpenStack Helm deployment recently | 14:28 |
| med_ | Further discussion on release cycle at PTG | 14:28 |
| med_ | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126080.html | 14:28 |
| med_ | cool beans mihalis68 | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | we've now pushed going that way back a bit, but still, that was a vision from my guys on how to up our velocity markedly | 14:29 |
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| med_ | xlnt | 14:29 |
| med_ | are you guys whole hog going after OS Helm? | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | our need to get bit fancy with networking does conflict a bit | 14:29 |
| * med_ sees a couple of different areas of attack. | 14:30 | |
| med_ | Helm and Kolla w/out Helm neck and neck | 14:30 |
| shintaro | sounds great. have you migrated the workloads to the new envrionment? | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | no it was just a demo on virtual box | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | in production we will only get to mitaka any time soon | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | after that a jump of a few releases as we get to make new clusters and don't have to upgrade | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | that will still not be k8s/helm, so the latter is likely our third release from now | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | ok, as a good meeting chair, I should close up unless there is more business | 14:32 |
| mihalis68 | last call for remarks or business I overlooked | 14:32 |
| mihalis68 | #endmeeting | 14:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion of topics related to operating Openstack infrastructures at scale | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators | Logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/" | 14:33 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 9 14:33:13 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-01-09-14.01.html | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | thanks everyone | 14:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-01-09-14.01.txt | 14:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2018/ops_meetup_team.2018-01-09-14.01.log.html | 14:33 |
| med_ | thanks all | 14:33 |
| med_ | see you next week | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | yep | 14:33 |
| shintaro | thank you | 14:33 |
| shintaro | see you all next week | 14:33 |
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| smcginnis | mihalis68: Just reading through meeting logs. I'm travelling from the US I think, unless it ends up cheaper going right from Dublin to Tokyo. | 14:59 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: Not sure yet if I'm getting an AirBnB or staying at a hotel, but would be interested in knowing where you/others are staying to at least try to be close by. | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | I'll check the info shintaro has provided and see what hotels are within policy for me | 15:00 |
| mihalis68 | I'll email you and erik when I have some idea where I might stay | 15:00 |
| mihalis68 | erik is going too | 15:00 |
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| smcginnis | mihalis68: Cool. I think it should be cheaper that time of year. It was really cheap for the Summit, so I was shocked when I went during cherry blossom season. | 15:01 |
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| msm___ | i have 10G physical NICs on compute/controller/neutron. however, i get around 1gbps throughput on the VMs. Neutron uses OVS driver and there is NO DVR. Any ways to test and find the bottleneck in here? | 16:36 |
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| msm___ | please help with benchmarking network throughput. | 16:37 |
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