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| mihalis68 | ops meetup team meeting in 25 minutes or so | 13:36 |
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| mihalis68 | agenda for meeting in 5 minutes : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 13:55 |
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| mihalis68 | #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 17 14:02:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | hello everyone | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 14:02 |
| shintaro | hi | 14:02 |
| VW | o/ | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team today's agenda | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | please add your name to the attendees list if you are here for the meeting | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | #topic review last weeks actions | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review last weeks actions (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:03 | |
| mihalis68 | no progress on a new article about Tokyo, but the Eventbrite will be done soon and then that can start | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | an older article was submitting a blog post about the document retention policy and upstream LTS releases discussion. I submitted that today! | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | shintaro I emailed you a question about that just now | 14:04 |
| shintaro | yes, I need to check if $20 is ok and 150 cap for registration is ok, too | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | $20 is just right in my opinion | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | and 150 is more than enough, again IMO | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | thoughts from others? | 14:05 |
| shintaro | once they are fixed I can ask for Eventbrite | 14:05 |
| shintaro | I believe $20 would affect attendance from Japan | 14:06 |
| shintaro | would not | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | med_ was here a few minutes ago. He had an action to report back from the TC meeting | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | he is attending those for "surveillance" :) | 14:06 |
| mihalis68 | I'll assume no progress there unless he pops up. Any other progress towards previous actions? | 14:06 |
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| smcginnis | I can answer TC stuff if there are any specific questions. | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | thanks smcginnis. med was suggesting we lack interaction with those folks, he considered running for TC but settled on attending those meetings and these and forwarding essential info | 14:07 |
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| smcginnis | I was kind of hoping he would run. | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | so I guess the question is has TC been talking about things the operators community should know of? | 14:08 |
| smcginnis | But we did get a lot of candidates this time around. | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | I think he just missed the deadline | 14:08 |
| shintaro | TC voting is now in progress | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | I did chase him but it was very close to submission deadline | 14:08 |
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| smcginnis | Nothing overly operator impacting the last week or so. | 14:08 |
| emccormick | hola | 14:08 |
| emccormick | sry for lateness | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | hello emc thanks for joining | 14:08 |
| smcginnis | Do any of you pay attention to the tags projects assert? | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | any actions progress to report? | 14:09 |
| emccormick | sort of related to one | 14:09 |
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| mihalis68 | smcginnis I heard thierry announce that, it sounded insane | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | I understand what he's talking about but it sounded wildly unrealistic for small sites/teams | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | Maybe the only think from the TC side is removing things like tripleo from stable:follows-policy and maybe creating a new tag for deployment projects to follow as they have slightly different restrictions and expectations. | 14:10 |
| mihalis68 | I count my team in the latter | 14:10 |
| emccormick | re: social planning stuff, I spoke with Lauren and Erin. Apparently there is a foundation effort to throw a little party for Tom on Wednesday night and once details are set I will be inviting Ops to attend | 14:10 |
| emccormick | I was trying to set up something myself and then it occurred to me to ask if they were doing something | 14:10 |
| emccormick | so we're joining forces | 14:10 |
| mihalis68 | excellent. I am so disappointed I won't be there | 14:10 |
| shintaro | thanks emccormick I want to join that too | 14:11 |
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| VW | I'm in for that one as well | 14:11 |
| emccormick | I'll be sending something out to the list once I have info from them. | 14:11 |
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| mihalis68 | nice. Glad to hear of more cooperation between operators, foundation etc | 14:11 |
| emccormick | tentatively it's going to be in the club at the Star Casino. Karaoke night :D | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | smcginnis I'll go review that discussion and try to get more with it on tags | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: Cool, let me know if you have any questions I might be able to answer. | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | someone buy tom drinks until he's captured on video doing Back in Black | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | yeah I should review and then if I have specific confusions email | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | I will fund those drinks, and I am serious | 14:13 |
| shintaro | smcginnis which ML was that discussion on? openstack-dev? | 14:13 |
| emccormick | Foundation is funding drinks, at least to a point ;) | 14:13 |
| mihalis68 | well deserved | 14:13 |
| mihalis68 | I feel Tom contributed hugely | 14:13 |
| emccormick | but I'm sure we will buy him many other drinks that week. He's gonna have a 3 day hangover | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | I miss his input here | 14:14 |
| VW | I'll make sure he has at least a couple on "your dime" throughout the week, mihalis68 | 14:14 |
| mihalis68 | it's a deal | 14:14 |
| VW | I'm sure he and I will cross paths a couple of times | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | shintaro: I'll see if I can find the link. | 14:14 |
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| mihalis68 | #action smcginnis to point out where the tags policy discussion landed (re: deployment systems) | 14:15 |
| shintaro | thanks smcginis | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | helle emagana | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | *hello | 14:15 |
| emagana | Hello! Sorry, I am late. | 14:15 |
| smcginnis | shintaro: Starts here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123624.html | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | no worries. We are still covering any progress on previous actions | 14:15 |
| smcginnis | With links in there to the proposed changes that are having ongoing discussion. | 14:15 |
| shintaro | I will check the thread | 14:16 |
| smcginnis | I am curious how much things like that really have meaning in the "real world". :) | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team repeated for latecomer. Please sign up on attendees list | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | my initial reaction to Thierry's announcement was "they are out of their minds, if we can't even find the stable stuff without reviewing a whole bunch of legalistic definitions then it's going to be a shit show" | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | I will acknowledge this isn't very nuanced | 14:18 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | At the time I feel like the big tent was full to overflowing, now the picture seems very different | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | several projects just went away | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | is it really infeasible to have a core stable set of components? | 14:19 |
| smcginnis | I think the intent of the stable:* tags is just to see a list of projects that you can expect to handle stable updates in reasonable ways. | 14:19 |
| smcginnis | But we know how the upstream stable support doesn't really work with the operator needs for stable releases at this point. | 14:19 |
| med_ | \o very late | 14:20 |
| mihalis68 | the whole thing depends on python and from what I hear that does not "handle stable updates in reasonable ways" | 14:20 |
| mihalis68 | welcome med_ | 14:20 |
| med_ | sorry, trouble driving in. | 14:20 |
| emccormick | No worries med_. We're on side topics ;) | 14:20 |
| emccormick | snow? | 14:20 |
| med_ | tc election is on-going. | 14:20 |
| mihalis68 | specific feedback about "upstream LTS updates" states that they are near impossible without first doing something about the underlying python foundation | 14:21 |
| med_ | emccormick, stupid android client flaking whilst I was commuting. | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | med_ you were actioned to report back from TC. Any news on that? | 14:21 |
| med_ | nothing to report other than elections under way | 14:21 |
| smcginnis | I'm not sure if it's really a python issue. My stance is still what I was saying in Mexico that we need more vendor involvement to maintain those longer stable releases. | 14:21 |
| * med_ can't grok how python foundation would be involved | 14:22 | |
| mihalis68 | ok, well I am not a python developer, so take this with a pinch of salt, but... | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | you can't maintain openstack components for 3 years if they depend on something that is not maintained for 3 years | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | right? | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | wel python itself doesn't have LTS, so you can't necessarily even rebuild the stuff 2 years later | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | this is from my canonical contacts, both my contractor and a bunch of other staff that I took out for dinner recenely | 14:24 |
| med_ | curious | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | maybe someone who is a python developer can explain this in more detail | 14:24 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: There can be issues as far as required packages no longer being maintained, or things like distros moving from python 3.4 to 3.5 to 3.6. | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | the python that underpins OpenStack Liberty is no longer actively maintained | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | for example | 14:25 |
| smcginnis | There are a lot of moving pieces with LTS. That's part of the need for maintenance, because even though something is working now, it doesn't mean something won't change in the runtime three years from now that breaks it. | 14:25 |
| shintaro | That conversation reminded me of polling Allison Randal for Forum sesison from Suse | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | I realize many things underpin a "stack" that big, but it's quite intimate when it comes to python specifically | 14:25 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: Good points. | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | ok. I guess I should be a good chair and move on to next agenda item. This topic will be discussed in Sydney, however, as the upstream LTS releases talk was accepted onto the draft session list (see email from thing) | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | *thingee | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | #topic Sydney | 14:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sydney (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:26 | |
| mihalis68 | did everyone see that list? | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | look for email entitled "[Openstack-operators] [forum] Draft Schedule - Deadline Oct 13 Friday 20:00 UTC" | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | from Mike Perez (thingee) | 14:27 |
| shintaro | I guess the Forum schedule is now open | 14:27 |
| shintaro | I mean on the official schedule already | 14:28 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 14:28 |
| emagana | mihalis68: I was expecting a lot more Forum sessions from the Ops prespective | 14:28 |
| thingee | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123699.html | 14:28 |
| thingee | hey all sorry, I meant to send this to the ops list too. I'll do that right now. | 14:28 |
| med_ | thanks mike | 14:28 |
| * med_ has seen THAT one | 14:29 | |
| smcginnis | Here's a nice session: What do operators want from the stable policy? | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | very apropos | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | hi mrhillsman, thingee | 14:29 |
| emccormick | emagana Operators really slacked proposing things, but lots of the project teams have crossover things in there. | 14:30 |
| emccormick | It worked kinda that way in Boston too | 14:30 |
| emagana | emccormick: fair enough | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | is there anything else we need to try to get organized for Sydney? I forget where the idea of an evening event got to | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | any more on Sydney? I imagine that schedule of talks will take a while to digest | 14:32 |
| mihalis68 | ok | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | #topic Tokyo mid-cycle meetup | 14:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tokyo mid-cycle meetup (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:33 | |
| mihalis68 | shintaro had two questions on the agenda | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | is $20 admission fee acceptable to all? | 14:33 |
| shintaro | yes. need that for Eventbite | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | and is 150 person capacity enough? | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | in my view yes and yes | 14:33 |
| mihalis68 | thoughts? | 14:33 |
| med_ | +1 +1 | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | any objections to either? | 14:34 |
| shintaro | seems not. | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | I find it very unlikely | 14:34 |
| shintaro | ok I will move on with those numbers. | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | #agreed $20 admission fee and 150-person capacity are both suitable for this event | 14:34 |
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| mihalis68 | great | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | we can get the eventbrite issued, then start promotion | 14:35 |
| emccormick | good on both fronts | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to submit blog about tokyo meetup | 14:35 |
| shintaro | one bad news is that the beer place emccormick suggested may not be available for reservation on week days. but still confirming | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | shintaro do you want to update the event landing page on the openstack.org wiki with the eventbrite when it's created? | 14:35 |
| emccormick | Tell them lots of Americans with big livers will be coming. They'll make lots of money. | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | we run openstack, so we can certainly organize a beer outing on tokyo | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | *in tokyo | 14:36 |
| shintaro | I will. and we will get graphics from the Foundation after Sydney. | 14:36 |
| smcginnis | The beer place is pretty big from what I remember. May be able to still just drop in there. | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | #action shintaro to update Tokyo event landing page | 14:36 |
| emagana | can somebody remind me the dates? | 14:36 |
| med_ | pro-tip: If you have limited time in Tokyo, skip the Robot Restaurant. | 14:36 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:36 |
| smcginnis | March 8-9, right? | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | I'm going to book tokyo once the evenbrite comes up | 14:37 |
| shintaro | March 7-8 | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | I keep forgetting that I'm going! | 14:37 |
| smcginnis | Ah, I was close. :) | 14:37 |
| shintaro | Wed and Thursday | 14:37 |
| shintaro | no more update on Tokyo for now | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | Hmmm, I wonder if I can work from Tokyo on friday and then take Saturday for tourism. We have an office there | 14:38 |
| med_ | +1 | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | ok thanks shintaro. I am excited about this one | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | #topic future events | 14:38 |
| emagana | Thanks! | 14:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "future events (Meeting topic: Ops Meetup Team)" | 14:38 | |
| med_ | I can recommend the tokyo tower | 14:38 |
| emccormick | Skytree? +1 | 14:39 |
| shintaro | I would recommend new Sky-Tree tower :) | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | Vancouver is set to be next Summit, but too early to plan for. After that we thought the next mid-cycle would be Europe? | 14:39 |
| med_ | yep that one | 14:39 |
| med_ | sorry, had the wrong name | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | there was agreement to try and agree the geo-region for that meet up this week, IIRC | 14:39 |
| emccormick | I thought our next would be NAM east | 14:39 |
| emccormick | following pattern anyway | 14:40 |
| smcginnis | I like the idea of having the ops midcycle colocated with the next PTG. Though my schedule conflicts there are already bad enough, could help getting some other ops-dev interaction. | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | where will the PTG be then? | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | geographically, not precisely | 14:40 |
| shintaro | Lauren said the location is not fixed yet | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | Dublin is the one right before the Tokyo ops midcycle. Next after that should be somewhere North America. | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | well, NAM would be convenient but mexico just happened, so if we do tokyo and then NAM again that seems off to me | 14:42 |
| emagana | smcginnis: PTG in Dublin, Ireland? When? | 14:42 |
| * med_ just asked Fdn for dates. nothing on website I can see | 14:43 | |
| smcginnis | February I believe emagana | 14:43 |
| emccormick | NA East and NA West are considered separate regions | 14:43 |
| aprice___ | it is going to be announced soon | 14:43 |
| aprice___ | re: Dublin. | 14:43 |
| smcginnis | Probably a week or two before Tokyo. | 14:43 |
| aprice___ | still finalizing contracts | 14:43 |
| emagana | smcginnis: cheers! | 14:43 |
| smcginnis | emagana: ;) | 14:43 |
| smcginnis | aprice___: Thanks! | 14:43 |
| emccormick | so NA West, Asia, NA East, EU, rinse and repeat | 14:43 |
| med_ | ah, it leaked out in some Queens PTG wrapup emails | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | emc this is more precise a definition than I am aware of. I thought the idea was to rotate NAM, EUR and APAC | 14:43 |
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| emccormick | summit flip flops the NA regions | 14:44 |
| emccormick | That's what Summits do | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I think Thierry officially stated it, just not a firm "when". | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | and which bit is mexico city in? | 14:44 |
| emccormick | Portland, Hong Kong, Atlanta, Paris | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | has it been stated that ops mid cycles follow that policy? I hadn't seen that | 14:44 |
| emccormick | Vancouver, Tokyo, Austin, Barcelona | 14:44 |
| emccormick | see? | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | yes I see that's the one for summits | 14:45 |
| med_ | emccormick, but I think this group wanted the 3 region rotation. This group/team/etc sets their own policy | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | but also I see that openstack is weak in the NE USA now | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | sorry, but I think it is | 14:45 |
| emccormick | if only by accident we have | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | openstack days east was cancelled due to lack of interest | 14:45 |
| med_ | lack of vendor support I think | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | thanks med_ I am not against EMC's suggestion, it's just not how I remember it! | 14:46 |
| med_ | also why I didn't try for a Rocky Mountain OpenStack Days. | 14:46 |
| mihalis68 | obviously for me NE USA is GREAT! | 14:46 |
| emccormick | it shouldn't be | 14:46 |
| mihalis68 | oh I see openstack days needs vendors? It's one of *those things* :| | 14:46 |
| emccormick | We've got a huge Redhat presence here and in Raleigh | 14:46 |
| * med_ would have to look through meeting logs to see if we every #actioned or #decisioned 3 way rotation | 14:46 | |
| emccormick | Comcast and Walmart are here and in Philly | 14:46 |
| med_ | mihalis68, it's kind of expensive. | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | even if it was hash agreed, it could be changed | 14:47 |
| med_ | truly | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | I think Comcast openstack is near death | 14:47 |
| * med_ is fully ambivalent but unlikely to travel beyond USA/Canada for Ops Midcycle | 14:47 | |
| mihalis68 | proposal : email the list and ask for interest level in a mid-cycle in europe in that slot? | 14:48 |
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| mihalis68 | or is it likely that these events will merge with PTG and just go where they go? | 14:48 |
| shintaro | I think giving a shot for europe is a good idea and if we can't find the host, then we can go for co-location with PTG or something | 14:49 |
| mihalis68 | maybe a better idea is to get the community to express a view on joining PTG cycle/location? | 14:49 |
| * med_ knows some people relatively recently joined Comcast OpenStack and don't think it's going away | 14:49 | |
| emccormick | mihalis68 They are still hiring Openstack people here and in Philly both. Doesn't seem too dead yet ;) | 14:49 |
| mihalis68 | maybe I am guilty of repeating the biased view from the Walmart folks (formerly at ComCast) | 14:50 |
| emccormick | RE: joining PTG, this still makes me kinda squirmy on the Devs behalf. | 14:50 |
| mihalis68 | I am glad to hear it's not pining for the fjords | 14:50 |
| emccormick | I would basically want an invite from them as a group | 14:50 |
| mihalis68 | I'm ambivalent, to reuse med_s great description. I like the independent spirit of separate mid-cycles | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | but then I think of how difficult it was to get the mexico event off the ground | 14:51 |
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| emccormick | It's not pining, it's passed on! | 14:51 |
| emagana | +2 | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | ok, as chair I think I can safely say no consensus, debate continues | 14:51 |
| emccormick | whoops, wrong python | 14:52 |
| emccormick | So we have 2 open questions I guess. | 14:52 |
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| emccormick | 1) Do we or do we not colocate with the PTG beyond Tokyo | 14:52 |
| emccormick | 2) If not, do we have a 3 region or 4 region rotation? | 14:53 |
| VW | I'm still leaning towards no | 14:53 |
| mihalis68 | I believe it's 3 | 14:53 |
| VW | but I can be convinced. | 14:53 |
| mihalis68 | it's weird to colocate but not on same days | 14:53 |
| mihalis68 | (I think that's the idea, or am I wrong?) | 14:53 |
| * med_ is more and more confused but is patient and waits for a summary | 14:54 | |
| emccormick | PTG runs a whole week. How would we avoid overlap? | 14:54 |
| smcginnis | The risk with 1 is they wanted the PTG to get away from the issues of the summit of "oh, I need to leave this important design discussion to give a presentation". Some risk of reintroducing that with colocation. | 14:54 |
| mihalis68 | It would be interesting to find out if the foundation expects to do every other summit in NA, viewing it as two regions going forward | 14:54 |
| med_ | agreed, you have to overlap with either the first two days or the last three days (or right in the middle and overlap both) | 14:54 |
| emagana | It will be easy to justify a trip to week and days for two events, than two trips to different locations. | 14:54 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: Maybe aprice___ can answer that? | 14:54 |
| med_ | thingee, aprice___ pretty sure NA is every other for both Summits and PTGs | 14:55 |
| emagana | Does the PTG need the whole week? | 14:55 |
| med_ | is that about right? | 14:55 |
| mihalis68 | I think perhaps I have not read a good enough definition of what is actually being proposed re: PTG | 14:55 |
| emagana | I would think that 3 days for PTG and 2 days for Ops | 14:55 |
| med_ | emagana, they use the whole week as there are so much going on | 14:55 |
| smcginnis | emagana: Yeah, we filled the week and really could have used more. | 14:55 |
| mihalis68 | so after Berlin, Summit is due in NE NAM? | 14:55 |
| smcginnis | 2 days of cross-project stuff, 3 days of project specific. | 14:55 |
| emagana | smcginnis: understand it.. I used to be a developer! :'( | 14:56 |
| emccormick | mihalis68 yes | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | let me just squeeze in my last agenda item | 14:56 |
| aprice___ | I don't think that anything is finalized re: Summits post Berlin, but to date, we have alternated NA every other Summit, yes | 14:56 |
| med_ | I'm not sure "NE NAM" just NAmerica | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | can everyone who appears on #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ops_Meetups_Team please affirm they still want to be on the team or not? | 14:56 |
| shintaro | o/ | 14:57 |
| VW | yes - the PTG is where the devs shuould really be diving in to blueprints and the HOW of new features/fixes that were discussed at the forum (the what). The Ops mid-cycle is much more about getting Operators engaged in the larger community | 14:57 |
| emccormick | <aprice___> is the east / west alternating just an accident? | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | med_ it is EMC's contention that NAM is two zones for planning purposes | 14:57 |
| VW | I worry about trying to put them together and risk losing their purpose | 14:57 |
| VW | I'm still in mihalis68 | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | thanks guys | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | I will email matt jarvis and tom and ask this question | 14:57 |
| VW | but I have to run to my next meeting here | 14:57 |
| VW | see you all next week | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | it might seem harsh, but I want to see the real team size | 14:57 |
| aprice___ | emccormick: I wouldn | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | thanks VW | 14:57 |
| med_ | mihalis68, team or team organizers? | 14:57 |
| emagana | Thanks for leading the conversations mihalis68 | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | my pleasure | 14:58 |
| aprice___ | I wouldn't say accident as we try to change the location in NA to accommodate different areas and communities | 14:58 |
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| mihalis68 | team organizers | 14:58 |
| * med_ is not much of an organizer, obviously | 14:58 | |
| mihalis68 | like I think Matt is out, right? | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | best clean that page up | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | I'm going to do it based on responses here and email | 14:59 |
| emccormick | So it would be unlikely to do the next NAM in, say, Seattle. | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | last call for input | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | I think the rotation discussion has to carry on | 14:59 |
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| med_ | thanks mihalis68 all. | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | thanks everyone | 14:59 |
| * med_ goes to next meeting | 14:59 | |
| mihalis68 | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion of topics related to operating Openstack infrastructures at scale | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators | Logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/" | 14:59 | |
| shintaro | thanks | 14:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 17 14:59:49 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-10-17-14.02.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-10-17-14.02.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-10-17-14.02.log.html | 14:59 |
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| emccormick | Thanks guys. Have a great week | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 15:00 |
| mihalis68 | shintaro reminder I emailed you about my article | 15:00 |
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| mihalis68 | emccormick your idea of the rotation matches this https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups | 15:12 |
| mihalis68 | but I think the discussions on this topic were somewhat different. | 15:13 |
| mihalis68 | @emccormick | 15:13 |
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| emccormick | mihalis68 Yeah. Apparently the East / West thing is mainly just a side effect of trying to make sure they are spread out in NAM. There's no policy that says it has to be a certain distance apart | 18:21 |
| gregwork | is there a way to pass custom qemu options via nova when an instance is spawned ? | 18:25 |
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| VW_ | cool - thanks for sharing emccormick | 18:41 |
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