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| zioproto | hello ops | 14:37 |
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| zioproto | I am starting to write a tool to check if I have resources in my ceph cluster that are unknown (orphans) to openstack | 14:38 |
| zioproto | before I start reinventing the wheel... anybody already implemented such a tool ? | 14:38 |
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| zioproto | looking at the osops-tools-* repos on github I did not find such a thing | 14:39 |
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| yankcrime | zioproto: nope, sounds useful though | 15:39 |
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| mriedem | klindgren_: mdorman: are you guys deploying the nova metadata api service with cells v1/ | 19:59 |
| mriedem | ? | 19:59 |
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| klindgren_ | yes | 20:25 |
| klindgren_ | mriedem, yes - we are. | 20:26 |
| klindgren_ | we run nova-metadata-api per compute node. | 20:26 |
| klindgren_ | with 169.254.169.254 being bound to each compute node. | 20:26 |
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| mriedem | klindgren_: ok thanks for the info | 20:56 |
| mriedem | dansmith: ^ | 20:56 |
| dansmith | mriedem: so maybe we need to figure something out then | 20:56 |
| dansmith | mriedem: so it can be done in both ways | 20:56 |
| dansmith | mriedem: we could look at api/db_connection and if unset, assume we're in the cell | 20:57 |
| dansmith | don't want to be doing much of that kind of thing, but.. | 20:57 |
| mriedem | ehh | 20:57 |
| klindgren_ | whats the issue here? | 20:58 |
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| klindgren_ | mriedem, dansmith ^^ | 20:59 |
| mriedem | klindgren_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1696843 | 20:59 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1696843 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "metadata: POST /openstack/2013-10-17/password fails with InstanceNotFound" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Dan Smith (danms) | 20:59 |
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| klindgren_ | kk - so we run all of the metadata-api services against the child cells, because thats the only spot in a cells v1 arch that conductor runs. | 21:04 |
| klindgren_ | and the metadata-api service talks to the db viaconductor | 21:04 |
| klindgren_ | (atleast I am pretty sure on that piece) | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | yeah via the versioned objects | 21:35 |
| mriedem | the issue we're running to now in master is when we lookup an instance in the metadata api, we need to know which cell it's in | 21:36 |
| mriedem | which is a lookup to the api db | 21:36 |
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| mriedem | and we want to avoid the whole upcall thing if metadata api is in a cell and not global | 21:36 |
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| klindgren_ | dansmith, - so does this mean that under cellsv2 that nova-metadata-api no longer uses conductor? So if I continue to run metadata per compute node I am going to run into an issue where I am going to have a bunch more db connections? | 21:53 |
| dansmith | klindgren_: no it does not mean that | 21:53 |
| klindgren_ | Wanted to ask mriedem but he's no longer in channel | 21:53 |
| klindgren_ | ok - having slight panic attack. I assume it means that conductor needs to know which db to talk to to get the info? | 21:53 |
| dansmith | klindgren_: and no, I think what you're doing is more sane than requiring a single metadata for the whole deployment, | 21:53 |
| dansmith | so I want to support both | 21:53 |
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| dansmith | klindgren_: you will have conductors in the cells and a few at the top. if you run metadata in a cell, it'll talk to the right conductor such that the "right db" will be implicit | 21:54 |
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| dansmith | klindgren_: the conductor in a cell knows which db to talk to because it's the default in the config it's using | 21:55 |
| klindgren_ | ok - but I also assume that neutron needs a single metadata api to hit? Which is when it needs to know which cell to go into | 21:55 |
| dansmith | klindgren_: mriedem assumed that everyone was always running global metadata servers all the time (when using neutron), which I didn't think was the case | 21:55 |
| dansmith | but that's why he was asking | 21:55 |
| dansmith | klindgren_: um.. I figured you had that figured out anyway.. you're on neutron and running one metadata per compute right? | 21:56 |
| dansmith | or are you on n-net still? | 21:56 |
| klindgren_ | so we dont run any of the neutron l3 stuff. we put vm's on "provider networks" and they use the switch gateways for networking. | 21:57 |
| klindgren_ | so we dont run any of the metadata proxy stuff at all. Which is why we run metadata per compute. (actually we use to run it per a couple of compute nodes per network), but decided it was easier to jsut run it everywhere. | 21:57 |
| dansmith | ahh, okay | 21:58 |
| dansmith | okay, so that's even more to my point | 21:58 |
| dansmith | that metadata needs to be able to work in a mode where it isn't looking up mappings, | 21:58 |
| dansmith | even if that's not necessarily a straight line path for a normal neutron deployment | 21:58 |
| dansmith | klindgren_: basically I'm saying thanks for validating my opinion :P | 21:58 |
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