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| mihalis68 | #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 6 14:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 14:00 |
| mihalis68 | #link agenda for this meeting : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:00 |
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| mihalis68 | hello. Who's here? | 14:00 |
| mihalis68 | o/ | 14:01 |
| ianychoi | o/ | 14:01 |
| shintaro | hi | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | #topic review action items from previous meeting | 14:01 |
| mihalis68 | me to follow-up with Edgar. He popped up here just after last week's meeting and said he'd provide an update to the list via email | 14:02 |
| mihalis68 | did he actually do that? I forget | 14:02 |
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| borre | i think thid forget | 14:02 |
| borre | hi im from mexico, im representatiòn of the organization team | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | thanks for joining us. We are just reviewing actions from last week | 14:03 |
| borre | ok | 14:03 |
| shintaro | I've sent out an email to Asian Stackers to invite proposal to host the 2018 OpsMeetup | 14:03 |
| shintaro | China, Korea and Taiwan | 14:03 |
| mihalis68 | next action emccormick to email the mexico etherpad to the list. DONE | 14:04 |
| ianychoi | shintaro, I have seen your e-mail. Thank u | 14:04 |
| ianychoi | (Korea) | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | Thanks shintaro. I saw your planning etherpad for APAC and added the link to todays agenda | 14:04 |
| shintaro | ah great ianychoi | 14:04 |
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| shintaro | welcome | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | next action me to email the list suggesting APAC for 2018 #1 - done | 14:04 |
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| mihalis68 | and shintaro just explained he did his action. All actions done from last week | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | Ok. #topic mexico city planning | 14:05 |
| mihalis68 | How is it going? borre? | 14:05 |
| borre | fine, now we have the venue confirmed | 14:06 |
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| mihalis68 | Is there still an issue with the opening time each day? | 14:06 |
| med_ | \o | 14:06 |
| borre | and we are looking for sponsoship for some things now | 14:06 |
| * med_ is late as usual | 14:06 | |
| mihalis68 | hello med) | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | med_ | 14:07 |
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| shintaro | ianychoi: here's today's agenda in case if you are not aware of it. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:07 |
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| med_ | morning. | 14:07 |
| mihalis68 | Is the group planning mexico city having separate meetings about it? | 14:07 |
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| mihalis68 | I wasn't clear if the separate time suggestion worked, or if the slack channel idea was taken up | 14:07 |
| ianychoi | shintaro, thank u! | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | As a reminder, everyone participating in this meeting please add your name to the Attendees list on the above etherpad | 14:08 |
| borre | we are using an slack chanel for the organization | 14:08 |
| borre | is | 14:08 |
| mihalis68 | Do you know which of the action items the venue can arrange (for a fee?) | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | particularly Catering - lunch? breakfast? | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | Signs/itinerary sheet | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | Attendee Badges | 14:09 |
| mihalis68 | Registration Desk | 14:09 |
| borre | is a goverment bulding the dont have fee for the venue | 14:10 |
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| emccormick | o/ | 14:10 |
| mihalis68 | the event charges a very modest fee just as a way to eliminate freeloaders | 14:10 |
| mihalis68 | it's much less than the food provided | 14:10 |
| mihalis68 | the question about fee applies to catering signs badges registration desk etc | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | that is : can we pay DCC for those? | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | hello emccormick | 14:11 |
| borre | thats why we are looking for some sponsors | 14:11 |
| mihalis68 | so is that "Yes, the venue can do those, just need to pay them" ? I want to be clear on that | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | if so, great, it makes it simpler | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | especially in transferring money from sponsor to provider | 14:12 |
| borre | we need to look for thid party vendors for those | 14:12 |
| med_ | ie, we'd like the facility (DCC) to do as much work as they can but we're happy to fund them to do so. | 14:12 |
| mihalis68 | ah, so the answer is no they can't do that | 14:12 |
| med_ | ah sounds like that's a "no" | 14:12 |
| borre | no, they can do that | 14:13 |
| borre | can't | 14:13 |
| mihalis68 | ok can you find a vendor or vendor(s) for those things? We can't ask for sponsors until we have specific items with prices | 14:14 |
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| mihalis68 | it's just a practical matter, I can ask for a specific amount to go to a vendor but not a vague amount for unknown provider | 14:15 |
| borre | yes, we are looking for a vendor of these things | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | can I give you an action on that then? | 14:15 |
| borre | yes please | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | #action borre (representing mexico event team) find vendor for catering signs itinerary sheet badges and registration desk | 14:16 |
| mihalis68 | I guess we'll have to wait a bit more to ask for sponsors on that | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | emccormick has there been any progress on the agenda? | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | i.e. the actual sessions and moderators? | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | (sorry, didn't check myself, lots going on here) | 14:18 |
| emccormick | there were a couple sessions put in | 14:18 |
| shintaro | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEX-ops-meetup | 14:18 |
| emccormick | no moderators. That'll come later | 14:18 |
| emccormick | though I guess I can add that to the ask. Didn't even think of it ;) | 14:18 |
| emccormick | I'll ping the list again, and pretty much every week to get in there and add stuff. | 14:18 |
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| mihalis68 | #action emccormick to mail the list again asking for topic input and also moderators | 14:19 |
| mihalis68 | thanks! | 14:19 |
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| med_ | Did Milan have "workshops"? I don't recall them from past Ops Meetups | 14:19 |
| emccormick | 3 sessions so far. One I put. The other two were someone else | 14:19 |
| emccormick | med: we did not | 14:19 |
| emccormick | oops | 14:19 |
| emccormick | med_ ;) | 14:19 |
| med_ | I'm not pro or con, just we should note the change from prior Ops Meetups if we intend to change the nature/design. | 14:20 |
| mihalis68 | other things that are required for mexico include hotel blocks and evening social | 14:20 |
| shintaro | what are workshops med_ WG sessions? | 14:20 |
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| emccormick | Although I will say for Ironic we had a room full of people and like 2 or 3 that had actually used it. Everyone wanted to know about it | 14:20 |
| med_ | nod | 14:20 |
| emccormick | so the idea of having some sort of demo / overview might not be a bad idea | 14:20 |
| borre | mihalis68 there are any guidelines for that things? anything from the foundation like rules for publicity and things like that? | 14:20 |
| borre | or an example to look with a vendor? | 14:21 |
| med_ | shintaro, there is at least one item called a workshop. Different than an operator discussion (which tend to be lessons learned, errors, traps, work arounds) | 14:21 |
| med_ | that's my vernacular definition of workshop | 14:21 |
| emccormick | shintaro I think a workshop would seem to be more of a teaching experience with a presenter. WG would be things like this group, NFV, Massively Distributed WG, etc. | 14:21 |
| med_ | but I'm probably splitting hairs (making too fine a point of it) | 14:22 |
| mihalis68 | there is a blog posting from Mariano who arranged the Milan meetup on how to do it. That might help. He had photos of the signs, for example | 14:22 |
| shintaro | thanks med_ emccormick | 14:22 |
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| borre | where i can find the post? | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | #link http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/how-to-organize-openstack-operators-meetup/ | 14:23 |
| mihalis68 | #link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2mq7rsj3jtifud9/AAD2FDvbAMPg0c5Z04FooTg8a?dl=0 | 14:24 |
| mihalis68 | the second link has the photos from the event | 14:25 |
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| mihalis68 | as long as sponsors get logos on the signs so that they can use them in marketing it seems to be enough. They don't need aggressive flashy promotional stuff | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | I recall wvera was looking into evening social for mexico, is he on? | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | guess not | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | Is anyone working on hotel blocks? | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | I am not able to help with that, when my employer hosted we couldn't help with that at all | 14:26 |
| mihalis68 | borre if you have questions about how the TODO items were done previously, feel free to email me. mihalis68@gmail.com | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | ok that seems to be all business for (or at least all progress for) Mexico City. Shall we move on? | 14:27 |
| emccormick | wvera was looking at evening event | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | yeah | 14:28 |
| emccormick | I just pinged him on telegram to see what's up | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | ok thanks! | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | #topic meetup #1 2018 (APAC) | 14:28 |
| borre | thank you mihalis68 | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | Shintaro I believe you said you will definitely make a proposal for Tokyo? | 14:29 |
| shintaro | yes. I'm working on it. budget, venue but not fixed yet | 14:29 |
| mihalis68 | ok great. Would you like to actually put an entry on the planning sheet? Right now it is the boilerplate text which is to be cut and pasted into an actual proposal | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | it would be nice to see a formative proposal, makes it seem real | 14:30 |
| shintaro | ok I will but it might be tentative one | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | I know you actually wanted to host this spring, right? :) | 14:30 |
| shintaro | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-venue-discuss-1st-2018 | 14:30 |
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| shintaro | good spring season in Japan, yes. | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | great | 14:31 |
| mihalis68 | It seems you have good interest already | 14:31 |
| shintaro | but late Feb to ealy March is ok | 14:31 |
| shintaro | we have ianychoi here | 14:32 |
| shintaro | do you have any question? ianychoi | 14:32 |
| ianychoi | shintaro, I think Tokyo ops meetup will be great :) However, I am not sure the sponsorship from Korea | 14:32 |
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| med_ | well, you can bid to have the meetup in Korea if you'd prefer | 14:33 |
| shintaro | yes, that was the invitation for. | 14:33 |
| ianychoi | shintaro, has been replies from other countries? (e.g., China) | 14:34 |
| shintaro | not yet. I will ping them again. | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | #action shintaro to follow-up with possible contributors to APAC meetup, early 2018 | 14:35 |
| shintaro | thanks | 14:36 |
| ianychoi | Actually, in Korea, we are now busy with preparing OpenStack Days in Korea (July 13-14). I will keep seeing here and finding which things Korea can help | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | One question I suppose we should ask is whether this meetup (in APAC) would benefit from being themed? | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | For those not familiar, there had been a debate on whether to do that to target certain audiences | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | the canonical example was if a meetup was held in Washington DC, then theming it around private cloud for government might make it more appealing to likely attendees | 14:38 |
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| mihalis68 | would it be fair to say openstack is big in APAC in the areas of ecommerce and telecom infrastructure mainly? | 14:38 |
| smcginnis | mihalis68: Or maybe a focus track through the event to entice that type of operator? | 14:38 |
| shintaro | We can ask for proposals. | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | yeah. Well I don't think it has been actually done yet, so we don't know how it might work. I do think it could be a good idea | 14:39 |
| ianychoi | In my opinion, collaboration of telecommuniation companies with OpenStack should benefit - e.g., NTT-Docomo & Korea telecom | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | I suppose one benefit might be to make the event qualify as relevant for some possible attendees | 14:39 |
| mihalis68 | those trying to justify travel expenses, for example | 14:39 |
| shintaro | ianychoi: good idea | 14:40 |
| shintaro | we can invite China Mobile as well :) | 14:40 |
| ianychoi | yep :) | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | ok this idea seems to have "legs" | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | If I might suggest, it seems to me trying a "track" first before theming the entire event is more incremental | 14:41 |
| shintaro | +1 | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | after all we do wish the event to remain generally welcoming to operators of openstack | 14:41 |
| emccormick | +1 | 14:42 |
| mihalis68 | Does someone wish to volunteer to propose a Telecom Track for the APAC meeting to the list? | 14:42 |
| shintaro | I can | 14:42 |
| mihalis68 | you are getting all the action this week! | 14:42 |
| shintaro | :) | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | #action shintaro to propose a Telecom Track within APAC meetug 2018 to the operators mailing list | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | meetup | 14:43 |
| shintaro | I work for telco | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | yeah | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | Is there interest in another track too? Or just one? | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | I know ecommerce is big e.g. Yahoo JP and Rakuten quoted impressive scale numbers | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | Just one track seems reasonable to me | 14:44 |
| shintaro | yes, they are the big ops in Japan | 14:44 |
| mihalis68 | I guess if they wish to come to this meeting and engage we can discuss what might be suitable for them | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | I don't know anyone there | 14:45 |
| shintaro | I know some. we have ops slack channel in Japan | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | Could you let them know we'd like to make the meetup inclusive of their interests if they can talk to us | 14:46 |
| shintaro | I can. Also, we will be having OpsWorkshop in Tokyo in July. So I can propose a discussion on this topic then | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | or at least make sure they know about the upcoming meetup and this meetups team and the regular IRC meeting | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | ok great. #action shintaro to mention the 2018 APAC meetup to ecommerce based OpenStack operators | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | sorry to send you so many actions | 14:48 |
| shintaro | my pleasure :) | 14:48 |
| mihalis68 | but you and ian are representing APAC here today I believe! | 14:48 |
| mihalis68 | ok. That is all I had in mind for APAC meetup planning | 14:49 |
| mihalis68 | any other business for today? | 14:49 |
| mihalis68 | I have just recalled that last week we had a bit of debate on whether operators should attend PTG. I was going to follow-up on that via emai. I shall do so | 14:50 |
| emccormick | re: Hotels I see there are 3 listed on the etherpad. Did someone call those to get the prices or is that just off google? | 14:50 |
| mihalis68 | #action mihalis68 to follow-up on discussion of "operators at PTG" via email | 14:50 |
| emccormick | Maybe that was an emagana thing. It can wait until next week | 14:51 |
| mihalis68 | it seems we are done for the day. I will close the meeting shortly unless there are any last minute thoughts | 14:51 |
| emccormick | +1 | 14:52 |
| mihalis68 | ok, thanks to all for attending. Productive meeting today I felt | 14:52 |
| shintaro | thank you | 14:52 |
| mihalis68 | #endmeeting | 14:52 |
| emccormick | Have a good week everyone. | 14:52 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 6 14:52:39 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-06-06-14.00.html | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-06-06-14.00.txt | 14:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2017/ops_meetup_team.2017-06-06-14.00.log.html | 14:52 |
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| mihalis68 | hi vw, we just finished :) | 14:55 |
| * med_ lost internet halfway through the meeting. | 14:56 | |
| med_ | reading scrollback.... | 14:57 |
| mihalis68 | oops, sorry if you had more business! | 14:57 |
| med_ | nope, I'm good. | 14:58 |
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| mihalis68 | ok good, thanks | 14:59 |
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