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| fifieldt | hola | 13:54 |
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| dc_mattj | hi | 13:57 |
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| shintaro | hi | 13:57 |
| VW | howdy! | 13:57 |
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| fifieldt | we have a couple mins - consider adding :) | 13:58 |
| fifieldt | #startmeeting Ops Meetups Team | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 20 14:00:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is fifieldt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetups_team' | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | start on time, finish early :) | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | Hello all, and welcome to )ps Meetups Team meeting :) NB: If you're new, or just idling in the channel, be sure to have read: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ops_Meetups_Team for background. Check out our agenda items at: # link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team As always: please write your name down on the agenda etherpad as a way of introduction, since we're a new crew. Secondly, if there's so | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | please add it to that same etherpad. | 14:00 |
| fifieldt | yay for line breaks | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | #topic last meetings | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | Apologies - I wasn't able to make it to the last two meetings | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | any news to share? | 14:01 |
| fifieldt | :)( | 14:01 |
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| dc_mattj | we appointed VW benevolent dictator while you were away | 14:02 |
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| fifieldt | agenda needs love: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 14:03 |
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| fifieldt2 | looks like my other client died | 14:03 |
| fifieldt2 | where are we at? | 14:03 |
| VW | sent out the etherpad this morning | 14:03 |
| VW | I did have a question fifieldt2 | 14:03 |
| shintaro | we wanted to ask fifield for the room assignment details for BCN in docs spreadsheet | 14:03 |
| fifieldt2 | ok | 14:03 |
| fifieldt2 | what was the question? | 14:04 |
| VW | I know they did a call to the WG leaders for submissions | 14:04 |
| VW | is there going to be a larger call to submit via the tool, or will we rely on ehterpad from here | 14:04 |
| fifieldt2 | The rooms we have on the spreadsheet are ours to use as we see fit | 14:04 |
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| mihalis68 | good morning, sorry I'm late | 14:04 |
| mihalis68 | *waves* | 14:04 |
| fifieldt2 | does that make sense VW, shintaro ? | 14:05 |
| dc_mattj | just realised I had an action, which I've just done, to reach out on the mailing list and beg for more volunteers ;) | 14:05 |
| VW | yeah - rooms make sense | 14:05 |
| shintaro | all rooms for Wed and Fri as well? | 14:05 |
| fifieldt2 | sorry, good point | 14:06 |
| fifieldt2 | x-proj isn't us | 14:06 |
| VW | just wasn't sure if I should direct general session ideas to the ehterpad and working group ideas to the submission tool or what | 14:06 |
| fifieldt2 | that's just to show where the cross-project sessions are happening | 14:06 |
| fifieldt2 | anything marked Ops Fishbowl | 14:06 |
| fifieldt2 | or Ops Work | 14:06 |
| fifieldt2 | is ours | 14:06 |
| fifieldt2 | to assign | 14:06 |
| fifieldt2 | the Friday room will be a half day room, laid out in fishbowl format for the "informal" meetup | 14:06 |
| fifieldt2 | as per Tokyo tradition | 14:06 |
| fifieldt2 | but I don't know specifically which room that is yet | 14:07 |
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| fifieldt2 | whereas the Tuesday rooms are 100% locked in | 14:07 |
| fifieldt2 | all clear? | 14:07 |
| VW | clear as mud :P | 14:08 |
| dc_mattj | lol | 14:08 |
| shintaro | ok thanks. so we have all green and purple rooms on Tue and Fri. clear. | 14:08 |
| fifieldt2 | We can remove the x-proj stuff to make it cleared if you want | 14:08 |
| fifieldt2 | shintaro: correct | 14:08 |
| VW | will the x-proj be the dev(and ops) discussing things like Nova, Neutron, etc? | 14:09 |
| fifieldt2 | tat was just there for planning | 14:09 |
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| VW | oh - ok | 14:09 |
| fifieldt2 | yes | 14:09 |
| VW | was going to say, it might be nice to actually fill those in as they are decided | 14:09 |
| VW | then Ops folks can see how Ops sessions they are interested in line up with Dev sessions | 14:09 |
| VW | etc | 14:09 |
| fifieldt2 | cross project issues | 14:09 |
| VW | just a though | 14:09 |
| VW | thought | 14:09 |
| fifieldt2 | it's clear this is causing confusion - lets nuke them for now? | 14:10 |
| VW | ok | 14:11 |
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| VW | so fifieldt2 is having some irc issues | 14:13 |
| VW | hopefully he is back | 14:13 |
| VW | but if not, we'll try to drive ahead | 14:13 |
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| fifieldt2_ | annoying | 14:13 |
| fifieldt2_ | so | 14:13 |
| fifieldt2_ | what I was trying to say is | 14:13 |
| fifieldt2_ | not all cross project sessions are necessarily relevant to ops | 14:14 |
| fifieldt2_ | so let's remove them from the sheet for now | 14:14 |
| VW | agreed | 14:14 |
| VW | cool | 14:14 |
| fifieldt2_ | until we know what they are | 14:14 |
| fifieldt2_ | ok | 14:14 |
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| mihalis68 | my connection is stable but no scroll back from before I joined. I think I need to get my employer to pay for better IRCCLoud access | 14:14 |
| fifieldt2_ | next up is ... ? | 14:14 |
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| VW | "lightning talks" | 14:15 |
| VW | you have them in the Ops War stories track on the etherpad | 14:15 |
| VW | we also talked about "open mic" instead | 14:15 |
| fifieldt2_ | they are indeed in the Ops War Stories track | 14:15 |
| VW | but that's been a while and I forget | 14:15 |
| mihalis68 | I recall a couple of times people saying drop lightning talks in favor of open mic | 14:15 |
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| mihalis68 | yeah | 14:15 |
| fifieldt2_ | that was certainly the case at NYC | 14:16 |
| serverascode | open mic sounds interesting | 14:16 |
| fifieldt2_ | however, does it work in the summit context? | 14:16 |
| shintaro | Ops War stories is in the general session and not OpsMeetup, right? | 14:16 |
| fifieldt2_ | correct, but we are organising 2 slots of it | 14:16 |
| VW | cool | 14:16 |
| dc_mattj | so isn't open mic basically what we do already in the big final day session at Austin | 14:16 |
| VW | then I personally say we roll with that and figure out open mic for next mid-cycle | 14:17 |
| fifieldt2_ | which is for lightning talks | 14:17 |
| VW | we have a lot we are still figuring out right now | 14:17 |
| fifieldt2_ | my opinion is that it might be better to organise them a little more ( eg confirming the speakers :) ) rather than less | 14:17 |
| fifieldt2_ | will work better | 14:17 |
| fifieldt2_ | since it;s a wider audience | 14:17 |
| mihalis68 | maybe have a few confirmed people in the lightning talk style but try to leave a bit at the end for anyone who wants to step up? | 14:18 |
| fifieldt2_ | not our usual "heavily involved" ops crew | 14:18 |
| dc_mattj | ah I see | 14:18 |
| mihalis68 | our supply of lightning talkers did not fill the time slot anyway | 14:18 |
| dc_mattj | ignore me then, we're talking open mic in terms of still a lightning talk but without a schedule | 14:18 |
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| mihalis68 | how many of the team are here today? | 14:19 |
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| VW | Ok folks - let's put lightning talks to the side | 14:20 |
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| VW | I'll make a "dictator" call for now. If they are solved for BCN as part of war stories, that's good | 14:21 |
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| VW | we may need to spend a little time working on the vetting, etc | 14:21 |
| VW | we'll pic open mic back up for the next mid-cycle | 14:21 |
| fifieldt-7 | (apologies - freenode has determined that my IPv4 address is bad and is banning it, and the latency of the web client causes timeouts every few minutes. IPv6 is down at the moment due to me) | 14:21 |
| mihalis68 | works for me, the different mix of people point is important | 14:21 |
| VW | I would agree | 14:22 |
| VW | I just don't want to over complicate our lives right now | 14:22 |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 14:22 |
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| fifieldt-7 | so, "lightning talks" or "architecture show and tell" as the titie? | 14:23 |
| fifieldt-7 | title* | 14:23 |
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| mihalis68 | personally I liked the freedom of lightning talks, allows for the unexpected | 14:23 |
| shintaro | +1 for LT | 14:24 |
| dc_mattj | although architecture show and tell might encourage more participants as it's a bit more narrow | 14:24 |
| dc_mattj | narrow could also be a bad thing though | 14:24 |
| VW | +1 here to | 14:24 |
| dc_mattj | I'll go with the consensus then ;) | 14:25 |
| mihalis68 | Seems we have consensus on we will have curated lightning talks session | 14:25 |
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| VW | excellent | 14:26 |
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| VW | fifieldt-7 you here still? | 14:26 |
| med_ | sorry I wasn't here. | 14:26 |
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| med_ | I thought lightning talks were going to be called "Open Mic" | 14:26 |
| med_ | but name is not terribly important. | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | so tom pointed out that for BCN the mix of people is quite diff | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | and that resonated | 14:27 |
| med_ | truedat | 14:27 |
| med_ | reading scrollback now. | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | unfortunately Tom is suffering connection issues | 14:27 |
| VW | yes | 14:27 |
| VW | so, I'll try to follow up with him about who is going to curate those if they are a couple of sessions in a main summit track | 14:27 |
| mihalis68 | so specifically for BCN there appears to be consensus around it will be "lightning talks" with curated speakers | 14:27 |
| med_ | kk | 14:28 |
| mihalis68 | do you want to use the meetbot # commands and record that? | 14:28 |
| fifieldt-7 | yeah, normally we'd just have someone volunteer through the moderator process for those | 14:28 |
| * med_ assumed the meeting wasnearly over... | 14:28 | |
| med_ | and I'm happy to volunteer to MC Lightning talks (and happy to let someone else as well.) | 14:29 |
| fifieldt-7 | but we don't have a lot of time before BCN | 14:29 |
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| VW | yep - a month a way | 14:29 |
| VW | away even | 14:29 |
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| mihalis68 | I think there is "curate" and then "MC" which are not the same thing | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | curate is vet speakers and topics, right? | 14:30 |
| med_ | agreed, The curation is gatekeeping, MC is cat herding. | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | and maybe drum up more if necessary | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | I think you'd be good at either or both, don't get me wrong :) | 14:30 |
| mihalis68 | I could take on trying to find lightning talkers... would that help? | 14:31 |
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| mihalis68 | Oh I see VW said he'd talk to tom about that. ok | 14:32 |
| VW | ok - in the spirit of moving on... | 14:32 |
| dc_mattj | +1, that's a single session and we have a whole agenda to fill ;) | 14:32 |
| VW | #action VW reach out to fifieldt-7 to work on the best process for vetting and moderating lightning talks | 14:33 |
| VW | #action VW include mihalis68 in said discussion | 14:33 |
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| VW | #topic BCN session planning | 14:34 |
| dc_mattj | VW, can I make a suggestion re the session planning ? | 14:34 |
| VW | always | 14:34 |
| mihalis68 | Thanks for the emails with the links, I see those | 14:34 |
| dc_mattj | it strikes me the last few have been relatively similar, we could start with a default set and put that forward for additions/removals | 14:34 |
| dc_mattj | which might be better than starting with a clean sheet | 14:35 |
| VW | fair enough | 14:35 |
| VW | can I call on you all to add some of those seed ideas | 14:35 |
| VW | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-ops-meetup | 14:35 |
| dc_mattj | yup | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | did you also suggest this prior? I've heard the idea and I am in favor, especially if it's a month to bcn (cripes, really?) | 14:35 |
| VW | I wanted to get it out today | 14:35 |
| VW | so we can start point folks at it | 14:35 |
| dc_mattj | yes, I suggested it last meeting | 14:35 |
| mihalis68 | yeah, +1 to that | 14:35 |
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| VW | sorry - last couple of weeks have been more nutty than expected, so i didn't have time to round you all up ahead of tie | 14:36 |
| VW | time | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | Do we have any star speakers? They were the easiest sessions to agree and place - sean dague for example | 14:36 |
| VW | but we need the link out there | 14:36 |
| VW | I'm not aware of any | 14:36 |
| mihalis68 | and to flip it, are there any topics people would like us to try to find star speakers for? | 14:36 |
| dc_mattj | Nova | 14:36 |
| dc_mattj | is always a good one | 14:36 |
| dc_mattj | and applies to everyone | 14:37 |
| VW | but here is what I'm thinking. We should plan on 2 weeks from now to look at the etherpad and try and set the schedule | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | like we (Bloomberg) got canonical to talk about ubuntu packaging in particular, which they graciously agreed to | 14:37 |
| VW | at least the general sessions | 14:37 |
| mihalis68 | "hey sean, you know that long talk you just did? We LOVED IT... " | 14:37 |
| med_ | and so would everyone else in the Ops Cmty | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | does someone know sean personally? | 14:38 |
| med_ | we may have to involve more beer and chocolate or some other incentive. | 14:38 |
| mihalis68 | I did think it was very good and well received | 14:38 |
| dc_mattj | so can I suggest we reach out to John Garrett | 14:39 |
| dc_mattj | on Nova | 14:39 |
| VW | Garrett or Garbutt | 14:39 |
| dc_mattj | Garbut | 14:39 |
| dc_mattj | damn auto-correct ;) | 14:39 |
| VW | hee hee | 14:39 |
| VW | I can do that | 14:39 |
| VW | what do you want me to ask him | 14:39 |
| VW | if he'd be willing to do a general session on Nova with Ops | 14:40 |
| dc_mattj | maybe we could do a state of Nova talk, followed by a general Nova discussion session | 14:40 |
| dc_mattj | which is what we did in Manchester | 14:40 |
| VW | awesome | 14:40 |
| VW | I'll ping him and try to have an answer by next meeting | 14:40 |
| mihalis68 | +1 sounds good | 14:40 |
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| VW | #action VW reach out to Garbutt about joining a session | 14:40 |
| dc_mattj | I've brain dumped some stuff in the planning ether pad | 14:41 |
| VW | see that - thanks dc_mattj | 14:41 |
| VW | everyone else do the same | 14:41 |
| VW | and then spread the word | 14:41 |
| VW | hopefully, in two weeks, we can lock down a lot of the calendar | 14:41 |
| mihalis68 | are you being modest in not putting large deployments? :) | 14:41 |
| dc_mattj | I'll also take an action to review the last couple of feedback sessions and see what there is in there to guide us in a basic set | 14:41 |
| VW | well, that's where I was trying to ask fifieldt-7 some things | 14:42 |
| VW | they actually reached out the the leaders of the more regular working groups/teams and had us submit requests through the talk tool | 14:42 |
| VW | a week or two ago | 14:42 |
| dc_mattj | can you give me a #action please VW | 14:42 |
| mihalis68 | I think people liked large deployments session and scaling but thought they should have been merged | 14:42 |
| VW | so, I think that will drive a lot of the WG assignment first | 14:42 |
| dc_mattj | Scaling is a good general session | 14:42 |
| mihalis68 | yeah | 14:43 |
| dc_mattj | perhaps separate from the actual large deployments WG | 14:43 |
| dc_mattj | which are supposed to be for actual work | 14:43 |
| VW | #action dc_mattj review last few feedback sessions and report at next meeting | 14:43 |
| mihalis68 | I think of it as "stories around mistakes we may be about to make" since our scale is quite small in this context | 14:43 |
| dc_mattj | ty | 14:43 |
| dc_mattj | Ive added a scaling general session | 14:43 |
| VW | yeah - for example, I asked for one session on Tuesday for LDT to plan which sessions we want members in | 14:43 |
| dc_mattj | I'm also going to add another OSOps session to try and get more contributions | 14:44 |
| VW | and submitted a second request for one of Friday (blank space) to review them all and plan work | 14:44 |
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| dc_mattj | the repos are still pretty poorly contributed to and there must be tons of stuff out there | 14:44 |
| VW | There was also an email request about a Docs session in the Ops track | 14:45 |
| mihalis68 | dc_mattj what are you updating? the ether pad? I don't see general scaling | 14:45 |
| VW | I've added it to the etherpad as a general session idea for now | 14:45 |
| dc_mattj | is Scientific Working Group part of Ops or are they doing their own thing | 14:45 |
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| mihalis68 | oh never mind, must be blind | 14:45 |
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| dc_mattj | lol was just about to tell you where it was | 14:45 |
| VW | let's table specific WG's just now dc_mattj | 14:45 |
| VW | let me find out what's up with the other process | 14:45 |
| VW | we'll stay focused on general sessions | 14:45 |
| dc_mattj | k | 14:46 |
| mihalis68 | so we are focusing on general sessions now> | 14:46 |
| mihalis68 | meant as ? | 14:46 |
| VW | and probably pick up some WG/breakout ideas on the etherpad | 14:46 |
| VW | for the most part mihalis68 | 14:46 |
| VW | was going to clear that up before the IRC gremlins took fifieldt away | 14:46 |
| VW | so, will take that off line for now | 14:46 |
| VW | in the meantime, get out and drum up some comments to the etherpad | 14:47 |
| VW | :D | 14:47 |
| dc_mattj | one last thing - would be good to get some stuff in there about the work the UX group have been doing with the ops community | 14:47 |
| fifieldt | hi, I think I have a connection now | 14:47 |
| fifieldt | what was the question VW? | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | config management is on the ether pad, but was quite controversial in NYC | 14:47 |
| mihalis68 | tom and I put it in, but Melvin had to deal with a lot of "why is this here, please don't just ask us which tools we use" etc etc | 14:48 |
| dc_mattj | I'm more interested in patterns, workflow etc. | 14:48 |
| VW | when/how the working group submission we made via the tool would be handed off to this process | 14:48 |
| fifieldt | plus, at the summits, puppet, ansible etc already have their own sessions | 14:48 |
| dc_mattj | k | 14:48 |
| VW | so we could schedule and then look for additional topics off the etherpad | 14:48 |
| dc_mattj | I also added a CI/CD suggestion, which might be more targeted | 14:49 |
| VW | OR, are we going to do a broader call for WG submissions via the tool, fifieldt | 14:49 |
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| mihalis68 | which tool is that? I missed something unless it's just the googledoc | 14:49 |
| fifieldt | oh, thought I answered that above VW | 14:49 |
| fifieldt | we are in control of the rooms on the spreadsheet | 14:50 |
| VW | ah - but we don't have the list of submissions :D | 14:50 |
| fifieldt | don't we? | 14:50 |
| fifieldt | I thought that was what our etherpad was for :) | 14:50 |
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| * VW is confused | 14:51 | |
| VW | what was the thing that Erin sent out then | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | that was for working groups | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | much broader thing than you find in ops stuff | 14:51 |
| fifieldt | those are in different rooms on different times | 14:52 |
| fifieldt | it is confusing. | 14:52 |
| fifieldt | but not in our control :) | 14:52 |
| VW | so working groups/teams are not any part of this - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=803513477 | 14:53 |
| fifieldt | nothing on there is controlled by or related to the process Erin sent out | 14:53 |
| VW | ok | 14:53 |
| VW | apologies then, I thought the WG designation was one and the same between the two processes | 14:54 |
| fifieldt | rather confusing | 14:55 |
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| VW | indeed :\ | 14:56 |
| mihalis68 | I'm confused too | 14:56 |
| VW | ok - we are almost out of time | 14:56 |
| VW | so, it sounds like we need to do the following next week | 14:57 |
| VW | 1. Check progress on etherpad | 14:57 |
| VW | 2. See if Garbutt and/or others are willing to do a state of Nova | 14:57 |
| VW | 3. See if we can unconfuse ourselves on WGs | 14:58 |
| dc_mattj | 4. Profit ! | 14:58 |
| VW | 4. Talk a little about next midcycle | 14:58 |
| VW | the profit | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | 5. buy tom new working IP address | 14:58 |
| VW | did I miss anything fifieldt | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | sounds good to me | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | still could do with more participation in this team I would say | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | 'also, if anyone knows a good TSP v6 client for xenial I'd be greatful - gogoc package no longer in there | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | ;) | 14:58 |
| mihalis68 | i.e. more people | 14:58 |
| fifieldt | + | 14:59 |
| fifieldt | 1 | 14:59 |
| dc_mattj | both VW and I just posted to the ops list about that | 14:59 |
| fifieldt | someone send a tweet and I can RT or something | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | yeah | 14:59 |
| serverascode | I don't really have much to say, but I will be in BCN and I am willing to take on whatever help y'all need | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | I will | 14:59 |
| med_ | and I joined the session thanks to the email propmt... | 14:59 |
| med_ | I still didn't really participate but moral support. | 14:59 |
| mihalis68 | that helps too | 15:00 |
| mihalis68 | time | 15:00 |
| VW | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team roughed out already for next week based on above | 15:00 |
| fifieldt | w00t | 15:00 |
| med_ | thanks VW, Tom, Mihalis68 | 15:01 |
| mihalis68 | vw I think you have to end meeting | 15:01 |
| fifieldt | time to #endmeeting ? | 15:01 |
| mihalis68 | yeah | 15:01 |
| VW | yep | 15:01 |
| dc_mattj | speak next week all | 15:01 |
| mihalis68 | TTFN | 15:01 |
| fifieldt | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
| shintaro | bye | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 20 15:01:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-09-20-14.00.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-09-20-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-09-20-14.00.log.html | 15:02 |
| fifieldt | thanks!!! | 15:02 |
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