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med_\o13:57
VWhello all14:00
VWgive me a second to fire this thing up14:00
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VW#startmeeting Ops Meetups Team14:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 13 14:01:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetups_team'14:01
med_\o14:02
VWAs always, the agenda is here:14:02
VWhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team14:02
VWsorry14:02
VW#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team14:02
shintarohi14:02
VWhello shintaro - thanks for joining14:03
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VWlooks like we didn't record anything from the last meeting in the etherpad14:04
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VWlet me grap the summary from evesdrop if anyone needs to review14:04
mihalis68yeah, sorry, I meant to, although last week was kind of minimal - hardly anyone turned up14:05
VW#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ops_meetups_team.2016-08-09-14.00.html14:05
mrhillsmanapologies on tardiness14:06
mrhillsmanwill keep an eye here but have a critical meeting right now14:07
VWoh wait - that's even older14:07
VWlooks like no minutes have made it to http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/2016/ since August14:07
VW:\14:07
med_so lets wing it.14:08
VWindedd14:08
mihalis68there were eavesdrop minutes last week, I am sure of it. I suspect I didn't enter the magic command correctly14:08
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mihalis68so it's listed under some other link14:08
VWgotcha14:09
VW#topic Business from last meeting14:09
VWanyone have anything from last meeting they need to re-visit, catch folks up on or actions to report on?14:10
mihalis68https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/x1jhjzxG/14:10
mihalis68http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_operators/2016/openstack_operators.2016-09-06-14.02.txt14:11
shintaro#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC-ops-feedback14:11
mihalis68We need to hash startmeeting14:12
shintaromaybe we can pick topic from feedback session14:12
mihalis68but I have a conflict this morning in < 20 minutes14:12
med_he started meeting earlier14:12
med_at 08:01 MDT14:12
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mihalis68ok, sorry, IRCCLoud hasn't managed to show me that bit14:13
VWcool - well then14:13
* med_ soapboxes...14:13
VW#topic NYC Meetup recap14:13
mihalis68for those not on this meeting last week, we voted on the idea of VW being the new benevolent dictator of the process for the next meetup14:13
mihalis68and this was approved, but it wasn't many people14:13
med_I'm for moving Lightning Talks to Open Mic if we do it at Barc. Happy to MC as well.14:13
mihalis68+1 for me14:14
VWyeah med_ - I agree14:14
med_also I think we decided to flatten some of the meeting talks (though that may have been for next mid-cycle, probably also apropos for Barc)14:14
VWmihalis68 is correct about Barcelona as well, but with more folks, I'm happy to revisit that when we talk about it shortly14:14
mihalis68also several people agree with meeting cadence being weekly for now, certainly I do and Tom F himself and last weeks attendees here14:15
mihalis68so I think that has good concensus14:15
med_+114:15
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shintaro+1 too14:16
mihalis68Can you explain flattening talks? I don't get what that is14:16
VWyes - we will stick with weekly till Barcelona for sure14:17
med_mihalis68, we had several "sessions" (not talks really) that would have easily fit into others and better worked in others instead of broken out.14:17
shintaroalso +1 to VW being the new benevolent dictator :)14:17
med_but hindsight is cleaerer.14:17
med_the ones in particular I'm considering are the hypervisor failure (which could have gone into the nova double session) and the scalability (which was a natural fit under LDT)14:18
VWyeah - even though I'm a big fan of my working group, I'm leaning towards less WG focused sessions at the mid-cycles14:18
mihalis68ah yes. That all comes back to making sure to get more time to spend on the agenda and to flesh it out more so that subject matter experts can say "oh, wait, this session and that session are the same exact thing"14:18
med_so just some better mgmt/selection14:18
VWand leveing the slots for more topic specific conversations14:18
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med_kk14:18
med_so either way we get less redundance.14:18
VWmove all the team/wg stuff to the main summits14:18
mihalis68a suggestion from last week not locked in was to populate the planner for the next meet up with a standard set of topics immediately14:19
med_and it could have all been happenstance/timing of when a PTL / CoreDev showed up on the list vs list already in progress.14:19
mihalis68we could talk about actions from last week. I was supposed to notify openstack-operators mailing list of this meeting, however I saw Tom did it and then asked for help as he couldn't make it (on a plane again)14:21
VWyes, this is were I wish I could have caught Tom.  Our next one is Barcelona, so I'm not sure what the ratio of planned subjects verusus submitted WG slots is going to be14:21
med_#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=80351347714:22
mihalis68Secondly VW you said you'd ping the mailing list for more volunteers for the meet up team14:22
med_shows the BCN page.14:22
med_but kind of opaque to me.14:22
VWI failed at taht, mihalis6814:23
VWbut will follow up this meeting with a recap and a request for help14:23
VWoh yay - thanks med_14:23
VWok - let's table BCN for just a bit14:24
VWanything else action related mihalis6814:24
mihalis68that's all I recall. Apologies for being extra scattered, wife just had hip replaced14:25
VWeek - that's not fun14:25
VWand no worries mihalis6814:25
mihalis68I just think the urgent thing right now is : work out the team for BCN and start the process of topics for sessions ASAP14:25
VWok - to keep my cat herder/meeting wrangler hat on.  Anything else from NYC we want to discuss before we hop to BCN14:26
mihalis68I'm on team, plan to book BCN this week14:26
mihalis68Oh yes I have a lingering action to just write up some hints and tips for next time14:26
mihalis68that's it from me14:26
mihalis68based on trying to pull together a non-Tom-based process here14:26
mihalis68I did some, but it's not done14:26
med_mihalis68, stupid question time: what's your name?14:26
mihalis68Chris Morgan14:27
med_xlnt14:27
med_totally guessable from the NIC.14:27
mihalis68I have in the past put name and email address on the meeting ether pad.14:27
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med_gotcha14:27
mihalis68I will after my conflicting meeting in 2 minutes14:27
VWany last minute thoughts before you go mihalis6814:28
mihalis68i think email to openstack-operators asking if anyone else will join team for BCN meet up is urgent. I can do it if you like14:28
mihalis68and someone (looks at VW) maybe could start a topic list for BCN agenda to get it going14:28
VWyep - I'll start an etherpad and send out a follow up to this meeting, etherpad link and ask for help - promise :)14:29
mihalis68I'll jump back on here after and see how rest of meeting went. TTFN14:29
VW#action VW set up a topic etherpad to ML for BCN14:29
VW#action VW email follow up to this meeting to ML14:30
VWOk - last call - anything else NYC related?14:30
VWmed_, shintaro, anyone else?14:30
med_nack14:30
shintarono from me14:31
VWcool - then14:31
VW#topic Barcelona - agenda brainstorming preperation14:32
VWas mentioned earlier, the schedule is roughed out here14:34
VW#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=80351347714:34
VWhave you all looked at that yet?14:34
med_looks like three of us are viewing14:35
shintaroyes. we have four large rooms and three working rooms14:35
med_and that's my first look.14:35
med_xlnt14:35
VWAlso, there was a call for WG submissions due in by Thursday this week14:37
shintaroIs that outside of OpsMeetup?14:39
VWNo, it's part of the Ops sessions in BCN14:40
shintaroOh ok14:40
VWI suspect they will use some of the sessions on the calendar titled "Ops work #"14:40
VWand fill those with submissions14:40
VWplus, it looks like we have quite a bit of unallocated space14:41
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shintaroyes, on Wednesday. But I'm not sure if Tom has assigned the sessions for purpose. Could be just a template14:43
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* med_ will read the rest later, will participate in BCN planning, etc but has to step out.14:43
VWmy big question is do we go ahead and put an etherpad out there for topic ideas14:44
VWor do we want to pre-seed it at all14:44
shintaroI think we should put out the etherpad. since the feedback from NYC was that we didn't have enough time to discuss on etherpad befor the meetup14:45
VWOK14:45
VWcool14:45
VWI'll be clear that this is just topics for discussion and that WG/Teams should submit through the process14:46
VWI think it is just you and I, shintaro14:46
VWanything else you have?14:46
VWsince I know it is late there14:46
shintaroI think we need to check Tom which session will be assigned to WG and which are for topics.14:47
VWyes - I will try and get that clarification from him14:47
VWwe'll try to discuss that here next week14:48
shintarook.14:48
VWalright, well unless you object, I'll cut this off a few minutes early and let you get on with your evening14:50
mrhillsmani will try to catch up from the minutes14:50
mrhillsmanapologies again for my non-participation14:50
VWoh hey mrhillsman14:50
mrhillsmanprovisioning servers :)14:50
shintarook with me14:50
VWthere is still time to discuss anything you would like14:50
mrhillsmani was just dipping back in waiting on a reply from someone14:51
mrhillsmannothing right now14:51
mrhillsmanif i can be assigned anything though14:51
mrhillsmanfeel free to14:51
VWfor now, I just have to get an email out with a few things, you are off the hook, mrhillsman14:52
VWbut we'll meet again next week14:52
VWsame bat time same bat channel14:52
mrhillsman:)14:52
VWalright then.  I'm going to call it.  I'll get that email out today14:53
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VWthanks for joining and I'll "see" you all next week14:53
shintarothanks VW14:53
VW#endmeeting14:53
openstackMeeting ended Tue Sep 13 14:53:38 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:53
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openstackgerritlitong01 proposed openstack/osops-tools-contrib: Remove hardcoded volume point and tenant network issues  https://review.openstack.org/36678416:47
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openstackgerritlitong01 proposed openstack/osops-tools-contrib: Remove hardcoded volume point and tenant network issues  https://review.openstack.org/36678416:54
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med_thanks VW.17:00
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