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| mrhillsman | g'morning | 13:47 |
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| VW | morning! | 14:01 |
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| VW | We are supposed to have an LDT meeting this morning, but I just realized I didn't get a reminder out because I was working on OPs meetup stuff this week and missed this one | 14:03 |
| VW | :\ | 14:03 |
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| VW | #startmeeting Large Deployments Team August 2016 Meeting | 14:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 18 14:06:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:06 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting' | 14:06 |
| VW | quick roll call | 14:07 |
| VW | bah - I can't calender | 14:08 |
| VW | #endmeeting | 14:08 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 18 14:08:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:08 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting/2016/large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting.2016-08-18-14.06.html | 14:08 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting/2016/large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting.2016-08-18-14.06.txt | 14:09 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting/2016/large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting.2016-08-18-14.06.log.html | 14:09 |
| VW | see you in two hours :D | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | is there an agenda for the large deployment meeting? | 15:11 |
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| klindgren | magic! | 15:45 |
| klindgren | its hopefully on the agenda | 15:45 |
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| VW | it can be :) | 15:59 |
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| VW | alright - now that I've had coffee and can tell time correctly | 16:00 |
| VW | #startmeeting Large Deployments Team August 2016 Meeting | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 18 16:00:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting' | 16:01 |
| VW | quick roll call. Who all is around for the LDT meeting? | 16:01 |
| VW | klindgren is it just you and I? | 16:03 |
| klindgren | I think so | 16:04 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 16:06 |
| VW | hey there, mriedem | 16:06 |
| mriedem | just listening in | 16:06 |
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| VW | no worries | 16:06 |
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| VW | this is likely to be short | 16:07 |
| VW | only have a couple of things | 16:07 |
| VW | #topic Glance work | 16:07 |
| VW | I was hoping Belmiro would make it, but klindgren have you been in any more interactions with the Glance team? | 16:07 |
| klindgren | I have not | 16:08 |
| VW | hmm - OK. will have to follow up on that then before next Thursday | 16:08 |
| klindgren | I basically haven't really had any time for community work. | 16:08 |
| VW | in case we need to discuss it at the midcycle | 16:08 |
| VW | understood klindgren | 16:08 |
| VW | clouding is hard | 16:08 |
| doffm | Which glance work is this? Could we get a very quick recap. | 16:08 |
| VW | sure doffm | 16:09 |
| VW | some of it is around being able to disable/hide/depricate an image in such a way that only Nova is aware of it for rebuilds, rescues, etc | 16:10 |
| doffm | That is a super good idea. | 16:10 |
| mriedem | so not private | 16:10 |
| mriedem | but not public | 16:10 |
| mriedem | protected! | 16:10 |
| VW | but there are some links to blueprints and such we were discussing with the dev team in past meetings | 16:10 |
| VW | let me find them | 16:10 |
| doffm | "public hidden" | 16:10 |
| mriedem | hmm, | 16:10 |
| mriedem | seems glance could just have a policy for this, | 16:11 |
| mriedem | and a service user, like nova, could get the image | 16:11 |
| mriedem | admin or owner or service | 16:11 |
| mriedem | but the image wouldn't be public | 16:11 |
| VW | some quota items and hierarchical project support | 16:13 |
| VW | here is the logs from the june meeting doffm - where we recapped | 16:13 |
| VW | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/LDT/June_2016 | 16:13 |
| VW | previous to that a subset of us had chatted directly with the devs | 16:13 |
| VW | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-and-ops-midcycle-sync | 16:14 |
| VW | will give you a few minutes to review in case you have questions | 16:14 |
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| doffm | VW: Thankyou. | 16:15 |
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| VW | my pleasure | 16:16 |
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| klindgren | IT seemed like their was some stuff that was in flight for some of our concerns | 16:18 |
| klindgren | or atleast internal discussions in the glance team. | 16:19 |
| VW | yeah klindgren - you are right | 16:19 |
| VW | trying to find blue prints | 16:19 |
| VW | community image spec | 16:20 |
| VW | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271019/ | 16:20 |
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| VW | image life cycle story with Product WG | 16:21 |
| VW | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327980/ | 16:21 |
| VW | #action VW follow up with anyone in Product WG that comes to midcycle | 16:21 |
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| VW | alright anything else to discuss here? | 16:25 |
| VW | I'll try do some follow up before next week | 16:25 |
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| VW | taking silence as "no" ;) | 16:27 |
| VW | next topic | 16:27 |
| VW | #topic OPs mid-cycle | 16:27 |
| VW | any of you going to the mid-cycle next week? | 16:27 |
| VW | I know klindgren isn't | 16:27 |
| klindgren | yep - not I | 16:28 |
| VW | We have a couple of time slots, though for LDT | 16:29 |
| VW | what kinds of things would you all like to see the team dive into? | 16:29 |
| klindgren | So if I was going to be there again - I was going to bring up that rabbitmq itself is being a gigantic pain in the ass | 16:30 |
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| klindgren | Most likely related to a change in liberty under oslo - about keeping exchange queues around for 10 minuts | 16:30 |
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| klindgren | which means each RPC message gets its own queue - which stays around for 10 minutes | 16:30 |
| klindgren | but mainly the issue is the stats database | 16:31 |
| klindgren | which is an actual issue with rabbitmq | 16:31 |
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| VW | ah - good stuff | 16:32 |
| VW | as soon as I locate the etherpads for the meetup, I might get you to pre-seed with that, klindgren | 16:33 |
| klindgren | aside from that, I think the only other things that was going to be hot topics for me this year was: | 16:33 |
| klindgren | CI/CD how are you doing it. Especially the CD part. Seems like using jenkins as a task runner/deployer is not what its designed for. | 16:34 |
| klindgren | What are you using to automate SOP's? using something like rundeck or the like | 16:34 |
| klindgren | so people can click something and it follows a standard deployment type thing | 16:35 |
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| klindgren | Eventaully to get jenkins -> that thing to deploy stuffs | 16:35 |
| VW | sounds good | 16:35 |
| VW | will try to get some of that feedback | 16:36 |
| VW | if nothing else, funnel it to the craton folks | 16:36 |
| klindgren | bascially trying to get people out of the habbit of logging into boxes or running local ansible commands to do stuff in the env | 16:36 |
| klindgren | and use a standard entry point | 16:36 |
| VW | indeed | 16:36 |
| klindgren | Then cells v1 -> cells v2 migration | 16:36 |
| klindgren | who has done it? | 16:36 |
| klindgren | or looked at doing it | 16:36 |
| klindgren | or does cells v2 support more than one cell? | 16:37 |
| VW | well, seeing how it's likely to be O before the full multi-cell support is in... | 16:37 |
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| klindgren | I thought that was suppose to land in newton | 16:37 |
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| klindgren | Was also going to see if anyone had looked at the segmented network stuff. Apparently its mostly done in newton | 16:38 |
| klindgren | Outside of that - I dont think I had anything else. | 16:39 |
| VW | the last update I got from our devs, was that it "could" be in Newton, klindgren | 16:40 |
| VW | but sean d. will be at the mid-cycle | 16:40 |
| VW | so I'll find out about that and let LDT know | 16:40 |
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| VW | my money is on O, though because, well, software... | 16:41 |
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| klindgren | yea - well Carl reached out to me and asked if I wanted to see a demo of it | 16:44 |
| klindgren | so I assumed based upon that it was mostly done | 16:44 |
| klindgren | but again - busy - so I haven't replied | 16:45 |
| VW | gotcha | 16:45 |
| klindgren | I think thats all I was going to bring up at the ops meetup | 16:48 |
| klindgren | or atleast thats all that I can remember right now | 16:49 |
| VW | cool | 16:50 |
| VW | well if that is the case, I may call this a few minutes early | 16:51 |
| VW | but just to be safe | 16:51 |
| VW | #topic Other Business | 16:51 |
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| klindgren | Any one else having any new issues or areas of concern? | 16:52 |
| VW | for me - it's mainly fretting over Cells V2 | 16:53 |
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| VW | I'll try to round up a new list of concerns in NYC too, klindgren | 16:55 |
| VW | so we can work on them up until and during Barcelona | 16:55 |
| klindgren | yea | 16:55 |
| klindgren | Are you going to be there at Barcelona? | 16:55 |
| VW | I am | 16:56 |
| VW | yourself? | 16:56 |
| klindgren | I am hoping to be | 16:56 |
| klindgren | We have a new manager - so tryingto see if I can get that approved or not. | 16:56 |
| VW | gotcah | 16:58 |
| VW | gotcha even | 16:58 |
| VW | I'll keep my fingers crossed | 16:58 |
| VW | OK, well one more action | 16:58 |
| VW | #action VW get stuff organized for mid-cycle | 16:58 |
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| VW | thanks for hanging around folks | 16:59 |
| VW | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 18 16:59:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting/2016/large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting.2016-08-18-16.00.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting/2016/large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting.2016-08-18-16.00.txt | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting/2016/large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting.2016-08-18-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| mriedem | klindgren: VW: just read the meeting scrollback, | 19:39 |
| mriedem | cells v2 is not going to be multicell for newton | 19:39 |
| mriedem | nova devs are working on getting grenade CI jobs working upstream to go from no cells (mitaka) to single cells v2 deploy (newton) | 19:39 |
| mriedem | cells v2 notes from the nova midcycle are in the etherpad here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-newton-midcycle around line 364 | 19:40 |
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| VW | thanks mriedem - that's the vibe I was getting. Most likely O before we saw multi cell support | 19:53 |
| VW | with migration from V1 to V2 having to come in P or later | 19:53 |
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| klindgren | argh | 22:22 |
| klindgren | Really want to get ride of V1 patches before then | 22:22 |
| klindgren | :-/ | 22:22 |
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