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| klindgren | I forgot - does neutron have the same ability to slow roll agent updates as nova? | 00:39 |
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| klindgren | I thought they were adding that - but doing it a different way - where you didn't need conductor | 00:39 |
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| xavpaice | not sure about officially, but it seems to work OK without doing anything special | 00:44 |
| xavpaice | ymmv depending on the network config though | 00:44 |
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| klindgren | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQLBw1_VGcU | 00:45 |
| klindgren | no talk about the time between "upgrade" | 00:46 |
| klindgren | xavpaice, were you doing a kilo -> liberty or sometime earlier | 00:46 |
| jamespd | ^^ thursday | 00:46 |
| klindgren | we always just bigbanged neutron | 00:46 |
| jamespd | juno -> liberty | 00:47 |
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| klindgren | ah - you are doing the migrations in kilo (nova) - right? | 00:47 |
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| xavpaice | sure am buddy | 00:47 |
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| jamespd | I miss you. | 00:48 |
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| xavpaice | we've been using neutron since we started, so it's hard to know about migration from one to the other | 00:48 |
| klindgren | same | 00:48 |
| klindgren | just we have significantly more compute nodes | 00:48 |
| xavpaice | jamespd: when I'm in the office we both sit there with headphones on all day :) | 00:48 |
| klindgren | with more being added all the time | 00:48 |
| xavpaice | bigbang is what we're doing on Thursday - but when I did the last upgrade (to Juno) it was fine doing one agent at a time, and having tested again Juno -> Liberty, same story so far | 00:49 |
| xavpaice | I'll do the agents one at a time but in the space of a few hours | 00:49 |
| jamespd | ^^ I bet this works fine until there is an unfortunate rpc api requirement. | 00:50 |
| xavpaice | one that we don't know about until too late | 00:51 |
| jamespd | :D | 00:51 |
| klindgren | yea | 00:51 |
| klindgren | and wont hit until your in prod | 00:51 |
| xavpaice | at least I did manage to test the basic functions (create/remove router, ports etc) and that was fine on old agents when I had upgraded the api | 00:52 |
| xavpaice | so for the short migration on Thursday it'll be fine :) | 00:53 |
| xavpaice | (famous last words?) | 00:53 |
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| sorrison | We are currently running liberty neutron-server with all the agents still at kilo | 03:24 |
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| clayton | my understanding is that it's not officially supported, but tends to work in practice | 14:56 |
| clayton | but it working is mostly dumb luck, not design | 14:56 |
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| jlk | clayton: you just described all of OpenStack | 15:02 |
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| clayton | heh. well, with nova it's intentional :) | 15:02 |
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| mdorman | thanks for the data points on neutron upgrades everybody, that’s really helpful. i was stressing about having to upgrade 100s of HVs at the same time as neutron-server | 15:36 |
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| clayton | that's what we do, but I think our "100s of HV" is a few less than yours :) | 17:31 |
| clayton | once you have control plane done, upgrading the rest is fairly fast | 17:32 |
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| mdorman | yeah. just getting to the point where the ‘all hypervisors’ ansible command is a little unmanageable :) | 17:55 |
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| klindgren | is anyone else getting bounces from openstack-private@google-groups.com? when sending to the list? | 18:00 |
| klindgren | we use to just do a "big bang" - but we have since added 100's of more HV's - making that much more... difficult. | 18:02 |
| mgagne | klindgren: I am | 18:05 |
| mgagne | klindgren: and also bounces from a guy no longer at yahoo! | 18:05 |
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| klindgren | yea - one of our former y! ex-employees is going to reach out to someone to have them fix that. - but the openstack-private one - no clue | 18:06 |
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| balajin | klindgren: tell me the alias for the ex yahoo and where you are receving bounces from | 18:27 |
| balajin | i will take a look | 18:27 |
| klindgren | meghal@ | 18:27 |
| balajin | okay | 18:28 |
| balajin | and do you know where the bounce is coming from? | 18:28 |
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| balajin | if you have a gist of the headers | 18:28 |
| klindgren | postmaster@y! | 18:28 |
| balajin | anything more than that? | 18:29 |
| klindgren | pm inbound | 18:30 |
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| serverascode | I also got a bounce from openstack-private yesterday | 18:56 |
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| mfisch | jlk: do you guys cluster rabbitmq at all? | 21:45 |
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| jlk | no. | 21:49 |
| jlk | We tried over the years, was going to try again once we were settled on Mitak | 21:49 |
| jlk | a | 21:49 |
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| mfisch | jlk: thx | 21:52 |
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| mdorman | clayton: (or anybody else on liberty), what did you do about https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1256838 ? just backport the fix locally? | 22:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1256838 in OpenStack Compute (nova) liberty "Race between imagebackend and imagecache" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Ankit Agrawal (ankitagrawal) | 22:40 |
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