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mrhillsmanmorning13:36
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klindgrenmorning15:27
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mdormano/15:36
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VWhowdy16:00
mdormanhola16:00
dronshawbonjour16:00
cloudhollyb_hello!16:00
klindgreno/16:01
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klindgrenwe are still doing the LDT meeting here right?16:01
VW#startmeeting Large Deployments Team April 2016 Meeting16:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 21 16:01:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'large_deployments_team_april_2016_meeting'16:01
VW:)16:01
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VWoh good - dronshaw and cloudhollyb_, you both made it!16:02
belmoreirao/16:02
dronshawyep! glad to be here16:02
cloudhollyb_ditto16:02
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klindgrenbelmoreira, hi! glad you could make it too16:03
mdormanhey guys16:03
belmoreirahello everyone16:03
VWCentral Texas should be nice and soggy by the time you all start showing up the next few days16:03
VW:D16:03
mdorman10” in one day, craziness.16:04
mdormanwe are still working on melting snow here16:04
VWso, I really only had one topic for today16:04
belmoreiralooks like summer in Geneva :)16:04
VWha - indeed, belmoreira16:04
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VW#topic Summit Session Planning16:05
VWin case anyone needs it, here is our etherpad - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/AUS-ops-Large-Deployments-Team16:05
VWif you didn't know, we have 3 sessions next week16:05
VWMonday at 11:15 and 12:05 and Wed at 1:5016:06
VWSo, a few notes are already in there - mostly around catching up on old work the team has been doing16:08
mdormanyeah i dropped in the follow up stuff i could remember from Tokyo and other meetings16:08
VWI'm assuming we have some new burning issues we'd like to float up as new things to chase16:08
mdormanklindgren and i asked carlbaldwin to come to our Monday session16:09
VWoh - cool16:09
VWwhich one16:09
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VWI mean, I know it will be one long one16:09
VWbut didn't know if one of the two "official" time slots suited them better16:09
mdormannot sure, we need to follow up with him and see what works for his schedule i guess.   i can ping him today and see what works bets16:09
mdorman*bet16:09
mdorman*best.   geeze.16:09
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VWcool16:10
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VWSince I know we have some new folks, I'd like to know how we can take some of this time to help you all understand the team and share some of your problems16:11
VWmy gut mdorman is we'd want them to come closer to the start of the second session so we have time to do a bit of what I just said16:12
VWthen catch up with Neutron16:12
VWthen dive into some new stuff16:12
VWthat's just a rough idea though16:12
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DinaBelovabtw there will be Performance WG results/plan session on the summit as well - https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/7399 - we did not collect much feedback yet from the LDT, although I believe it'll be interesting. This cycle we were mostly focused on the cloud underlying technologies like MQ/DB/provisioning/etc.16:12
VWbelmoreira: is already lighting things up around cells :D16:12
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dronshawthat sounds good to me. i've been working with some of my colleagues to polish our pain points and see what you guys think. so second session would be best for that?16:13
mdormanVW:   yeah makes sense, i’ll thrown that out as a possibility.16:13
VWgood stuff, DinaBelova - added a note in our etherpad for extra visibility to that session16:14
DinaBelovaVW - ack, thanks16:14
VWwe are pretty flexible dronshaw16:14
VWusually, we have a good agenda and then manage to derail it16:14
mdormanhahah16:15
VWin a good way, of course16:15
mdormanno that there’s anything wrong with that16:15
dronshawas go all great meetings :)16:15
dronshawwould it be best for me to add that content to the etherpad you linked above, or just come prepared to the sessions?16:16
VWnow that we have some new players, though, I think some time spent going back through large issues they bring to the table and either sharing tips and/or finding common pain relative to those is great16:16
VWwe can start a section in the pad, dronshaw16:16
mdormanagreed, some review of the history would be useful.16:17
VWBack in Vancouver, we organized around some common needs with networking and engaged with the Neutron team16:17
dronshawsounds great, appreciate the help everyone16:17
VWour next candiate was common cells V1 patches, but I'm afraid that ship has sailed :\16:17
mdormanyeah don’t think there’s much sense in pushing on that any more.16:17
mdormanprobably better to focus efforts on migration path to v216:17
* VW was hoping that would just involve "magic"16:18
mdormanoh i’m sure it will involve lots of magic!  hah16:19
VWso, I think the first 40ish minutes can be intro and a little usecase/pain sharing?16:22
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VWunless anyone objects16:23
klindgrenthat sounds good to me16:23
mdorman+116:23
VWalso, selfishly, I'd love to use the break between Monday and Wed, to identify things we need to engage with other teams/devs on, go engage and then recap on wed16:24
VWbut that's assuming we get A LOT done in 2 40 minute sessions :P16:24
klindgrensee if we can re-find something that we are all fixing in our own openstack installs.  To refocus on.  Since that worked pretty well with neutron.16:24
cloudhollyb_sounds great16:24
belmoreira+116:25
VWok - we'll make that the general goal then and work the Neutron folks in when they can be there.  If we haven't settled on something by the end of Monday , we can pick back up on Wed, but hopefully we can do some work in between16:25
mdormani think we can kinda state a goal at the beginning of the monday sessions to come out with a couple solid action things to get with other teams about.16:25
VW+116:25
mdorman(i have to go run our standup right now, so might be slow to respond here)16:29
VWno problem16:30
VWI think we've knocked out the main bits for summit planning16:30
VWunless anyone has anything specific they want to bring up16:31
belmoreiraWed session conflicts with design sessions so I think we should try to do most of the work Mon and leave Wed only for open discussion.16:31
VWplease keep making all those notes in the ether pad16:31
VWgood call out belmoreira16:31
klindgrenAre there any cross project/op feedback session that people are planning on goingto16:31
VWlet me make a note16:31
VWprobably klindgren16:33
VWmade a section so we can start identifying those for all16:34
klindgrenkk16:34
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VWcool - any other summit related stuff?16:38
VWif not would love to give dronshaw and cloudhollyb_ time to ask the group questions16:39
klindgren+1 on that16:39
VW#action VW clean up summit etherpad based on today's discussion16:40
mdormannothing else for me16:40
VW#topic General Discussion16:40
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dronshawthanks everyone. I'm new to WG's, so wanted to take the opportunity to sit in and get a feel for the plans next week. hoping to come with our other engineers and share some of our pain points during our large deployments16:41
VWsuper excited to have some new perspectives (not that I don't love working with usual band of misfists ;) )16:42
mdorman+116:42
VWin general, though I'd say that LDT has done a good job of showing that a working group can actually get work done16:42
VWlargely due to the efforts of mdorman, klindgren and belmoreira and their bridging for our pain points to dev teams16:43
mdormanyeah it’s been a long process, but neat to see that work16:43
VWwe've also done some pretty cool combined talks with members of LDT from different orgs discussion how they use certain features or have common approaches16:44
VWit be nice if we can identify some more of those for Barcelona and beyond16:44
cloudhollyb_+116:45
dronshawagreed. would love to see us be more effective in knowledge sharing and working upstream. hoping Austin is a great start :)16:45
dronshawand by us I mean att, haha16:45
VWI think it will be16:46
VWyou are joining up with an impressive group of Stackers.  I'm impressed every time I get to hang out with them all16:47
dronshawI'm going to have to drop off early. was great meeting everyone16:47
VWgreat having you dronshaw16:47
VWsee you in Austin16:47
VWactually, if nobody has anything else, I'm happy to give you all 13 minutes back16:47
mdormansounds good.   thanks for driving VW16:48
VWmy pleasure.  really glad we have a loose plan for Austing.  I'll organize the etherpad16:48
VWand update the wiki with today's meeting notes16:48
VWeverybody travel safe and all that16:49
VW#endmeeting16:50
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belmoreirasee you in Austin16:50
* VW now returns you to your regularly scheduled running of clouds...16:50
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