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| mriedem | i seem to remember an ops ML thread related to tips and tricks or something like that, like writing a doc/manual on that subject - am i dreaming that up? | 19:08 |
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| j^2 | nope, that's real | 19:08 |
| j^2 | slow going though | 19:08 |
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| mriedem | i can't seem to find the thread, remember it at all? | 19:11 |
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| j^2 | alas no not off the top of my head sorry | 19:15 |
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| xavpaice | would be great to see that added to the ops guide, in a similar way to the 'takes from the crypt' chapter | 19:25 |
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| mriedem | j^2: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2015-November/008638.html | 19:28 |
| mriedem | found it | 19:28 |
| j^2 | awesome | 19:28 |
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| harlowja | klindgren btw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210549/ i think starts to move toward projects being more 'dumb' and in-line with what we've all discussed many times (along with others i've discussed it with) | 19:36 |
| harlowja | comments/thoughts welcome... | 19:36 |
| harlowja | *still WIP obviously | 19:37 |
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| j^2 | Ideally today I'll be sending out the flamewar of an email about coding practices to get into tools-generic please on the lookout for it | 19:54 |
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| wasmum | ceilometer, i know I know..... | 19:59 |
| wasmum | TRACE ceilometer AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'find' | 19:59 |
| wasmum | I can load a full pastebin if someone has some time to help. | 19:59 |
| wasmum | that was while trying to do a 'ceilometer-dbsync' with a mysql backend | 20:01 |
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| jlk | just WAG, it's trying to do a find on a string, but it's not a string, it's a None | 20:27 |
| jlk | so whatever process was populating the string failed | 20:27 |
| jlk | and stuffed in a None instead. | 20:27 |
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| mgagne | anyone managed to make Horizon kilo works with keystone v3? | 21:16 |
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| david-lyle | mgagne: how much of v3 are you wanting to use? | 21:18 |
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| mgagne | david-lyle: I don't know? what would it mean? | 21:18 |
| mgagne | all I found is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/DomainWorkFlow which refers to multiple year old reviews..... | 21:18 |
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| david-lyle | so what's in tree works for a subset of use cases | 21:19 |
| david-lyle | in tree in Kilo | 21:19 |
| david-lyle | you can use v3 and login to multiple domains or just use a single domain | 21:19 |
| mgagne | does I can login and see my instances is part of those use cases? | 21:19 |
| david-lyle | the place where it would start to fall apart is if you wanted a domain admin role | 21:19 |
| mgagne | wth | 21:20 |
| wasmum | jlk: got that much. But this was a working ceilometer node and the logs are full of this whether it's a db sync or the dispatcher, meter, etc... | 21:20 |
| david-lyle | so traditional openstack admin still works | 21:20 |
| mgagne | I'll stick with the deprecated v2 API then :-/ | 21:20 |
| david-lyle | just not a domain admin | 21:20 |
| david-lyle | for domain admin you would be using the v3sample policy file in keystone | 21:21 |
| mgagne | I'm using the v3 policy.json | 21:21 |
| david-lyle | yeah, then what's in tree won't work | 21:21 |
| mgagne | ... | 21:22 |
| david-lyle | fairly fundamental change v2.0 to v3 policy wise, still working through all the implications | 21:22 |
| david-lyle | hence the long series of patch sets | 21:23 |
| mgagne | I find it hard to believe that the replacement for a deprecated API is still not production ready after all those years | 21:23 |
| david-lyle | well let's just say the token model in v3 was suboptimal and created a wealth of opportunities for the horizon team | 21:25 |
| david-lyle | but even though v2.0 is deprecated, very few have cared about v3 | 21:26 |
| david-lyle | which makes the transition slower | 21:26 |
| mgagne | I'm sure there is a lot of learnings made. As an operator and consumers of the product, I find the experience sub-optimal, especially around all the noise made around how we should move to v3 for federation and such | 21:26 |
| david-lyle | mgagne: no argument from me, we're moving forward be it somewhat glacially | 21:27 |
| mgagne | I think I would accept it and feel better if v2 wasn't deprecated yet | 21:29 |
| david-lyle | mgagne: unfortunately in the governance model, the only project that determines if there API is deprecated is the one managing the API | 21:30 |
| david-lyle | *their | 21:30 |
| mgagne | david-lyle: yha, I understand. Unfortunately, the current model doesn't encourage cross-projects effort where ones need to make sure new API or feature is fully supported everywhere before deprecating the old one. | 21:32 |
| mgagne | david-lyle: People ends up in between a deprecated one and a half-backed/not-ready one which again, I find unfortunate when it comes to consumer experience and general perception of a project. | 21:32 |
| mgagne | anyway, not much I can do about it today =) | 21:33 |
| david-lyle | mgagne: I fully agree. I also don't think that v3 is fully baked on the keystone side, but that's for another time | 21:34 |
| david-lyle | anyway, don't waste your time on v3 policy and horizon in kilo. | 21:36 |
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| mgagne | well, that was the task assigned by my boss for the week :-/ | 21:41 |
| mgagne | I'll just put back keystone v3 in its box | 21:42 |
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| mgagne | this docs sure assumes you are a god at federation concepts http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/configure_federation.html :-/ | 22:56 |
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| lhcheng | mgagne: "it just works" ;) | 22:59 |
| lhcheng | mgagne: this might be more useful: http://blog.rodrigods.com/playing-with-keystone-to-keystone-federation/ | 22:59 |
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| lhcheng | more details | 22:59 |
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| mgagne | does it assume keystone runs under eventlet? | 23:00 |
| lhcheng | no, it needs to run on apache | 23:00 |
| mgagne | alright, will give it a shot | 23:00 |
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| lhcheng | federation needs some apache modules like: libapache2-mod-shib2 to work. | 23:01 |
| lhcheng | depending on what you run.. | 23:01 |
| lhcheng | mgagne: cool, good luck! | 23:01 |
| mgagne | thanks! | 23:01 |
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