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| mdorman | mfisch: you guys still good with a hangout at 10? | 15:48 |
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| mdorman | i’m at car dealership so might be a little sketchy, but should owrk. | 15:49 |
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| mfisch | mdorman: do you guys use nova host aggregrates? | 16:54 |
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| mdorman | mfisch: yessir | 16:59 |
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| mdorman | we create an aggregate for each rack | 17:00 |
| mdorman | and then roll that up to create AZs that are comprised of several aggregates/racks | 17:00 |
| mfisch | so you just enabled the aggregrate filter | 17:00 |
| mfisch | which seems like it should just be on, its harmless even if I dont use aggregrates AFAIk | 17:00 |
| mdorman | yeah i’m sure we have it on. aggregates are kinda opaque to users, they just select an AZ | 17:01 |
| mfisch | are you able to have a node come up and join the right aggregrate or do you have a list somewhere in yaml | 17:01 |
| mfisch | we want to do basic aggregration on CPU type for now but later it will be more complicated | 17:02 |
| mdorman | we have a list in yaml, although i have not yet actually implemented that stuff in puppet to create the aggregates for us | 17:02 |
| mdorman | so right now we do it manually when we bring up a new rack | 17:02 |
| mfisch | so when you add a new node you manually add it to the aggrgeate list | 17:02 |
| mfisch | ok | 17:02 |
| mdorman | but it “should be” automated via puppet | 17:02 |
| mdorman | right. | 17:02 |
| mfisch | I'd be interested in the automation | 17:02 |
| mdorman | a long time ago i built a nova_host_aggregate provider. i think i upstreamed it but there was actually a “competing” one at the time, so mine never merged. iirc i think the existing one didn’t work right for us b/c of cells … or something. my memory is sketchy on that. | 17:03 |
| mdorman | but it was something along those lines and i never got back to it. | 17:03 |
| mfisch | so there may be one | 17:03 |
| mfisch | cool | 17:03 |
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| mdorman | yaeh i’d have to dig a little but could probably find the reviews | 17:04 |
| mdorman | car’s done, gotta run. back online later. | 17:04 |
| mfisch | k | 17:04 |
| mdorman | really need to get a irc proxy setup somewhere, like all the other cool people :) | 17:04 |
| mdorman | ttyl | 17:04 |
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| clayton | I was going to make a joke about irc proxy as a service being a hot new startup, then I realized that's a big chunk of what slack/hipchat have going for them | 17:17 |
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| mfisch | mdorman: you back? | 18:58 |
| klindgren_ | he is | 18:59 |
| mfisch | I was wondering what happens with aggregates when I have no flavors mapped to them | 19:00 |
| mfisch | I just made an empty aggregate with no hosts either and am curious what the scheduler will do | 19:00 |
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| klindgren_ | afaik - shouldn't do anything | 19:02 |
| mdorman | yeah back sorry | 19:03 |
| mfisch | if I boot a flavor that has no host Agg attached to it, will it ignore host aggregates? | 19:04 |
| mdorman | yeah in that case if no flavors go to that aggregate then really the aggregate isn’t used for any scheduling decision at all | 19:04 |
| mfisch | nice | 19:04 |
| mdorman | (unless the aggregate is part of the AZ that the user selected for nova boot) | 19:04 |
| mfisch | that makes this easier to test | 19:04 |
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| mfisch | so what if I make a host agg and assign a node | 19:05 |
| mdorman | we don’t do any flavor mapping at all and it still works like you expect if somebody chooses an AZ vs. not | 19:05 |
| mfisch | will nova ignore that node for other scheduling requests? | 19:05 |
| mdorman | nope | 19:05 |
| mfisch | we're not using AZs | 19:05 |
| mdorman | say that new node is empty, and all your other HVs have vms on them already | 19:05 |
| mdorman | under normal scheduling where there’s no special flavor mapping and no AZ selected … the scheduler is going to choose that new node b/c it has the most free space. | 19:06 |
| mfisch | so then host aggs are just addititve | 19:06 |
| mdorman | afaik there’s no anti-scheduling, where you say “ONLY use this aggregate for flavors that match up with it" | 19:06 |
| mfisch | in terms or selection criteria | 19:06 |
| mdorman | what do you mean by additive? | 19:06 |
| mfisch | so I could go add a bunch now and not affect normal operations | 19:06 |
| mdorman | correct | 19:06 |
| mfisch | meaning that they don't replace the normal scheduling algorithm unless a flavor specifies one | 19:07 |
| mdorman | … or you’re doing AZs, yes. | 19:07 |
| mfisch | thats perfect thanks | 19:07 |
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| mdorman | #success operators helping operators, i love this community! | 19:08 |
| mdorman | see if openstack bot picks that up and it shows up in the newsletter | 19:08 |
| mfisch | mdorman: the puppet provider works okay so far | 19:08 |
| mdorman | ok cool | 19:08 |
| mfisch | I'm going to use some facts for host inlcusion criteria | 19:08 |
| mfisch | haven't gotten that far yet | 19:08 |
| mdorman | now that i’ve had a while to swap that stuff back into my brain, i think the reason that didn’t work for us is b/c we have to set some metadata on the aggregate. and the provider didn’t do that. | 19:09 |
| mdorman | cool | 19:09 |
| mfisch | I dont want to maintain a big list | 19:09 |
| mdorman | right. | 19:09 |
| mdorman | yeah longer term i want to do a similar thing where we auto generate aggregaets based on switch name from lldp | 19:09 |
| mdorman | but have had trouble geting lldpad to work right with ovs, and same old story, haven’t had time to get back to it yet. | 19:10 |
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| clayton | mdorman: we're using lldpd w/o OVS issues | 19:41 |
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| clayton | we have other issues, but they're switch side | 19:41 |
| clayton | we run lldpd on the individual ethernet ports in the bonds | 19:42 |
| mdorman | yeah i had tried that and itdoens’t work. | 19:49 |
| mdorman | so you are not using lldpad | 19:49 |
| mdorman | wonder if i can get lldpd (easily) on centos | 19:49 |
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| mdorman | is it this? https://github.com/vincentbernat/lldpd | 19:50 |
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| clayton | never even heard of lldpad | 20:01 |
| clayton | looks like | 20:01 |
| clayton | ubuntu comes with a package for it | 20:01 |
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| mdorman | thanks clayton | 21:02 |
| jlk | No module named utils <--- I fucking hate this error. | 21:27 |
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| klindgren_ | jlk? Is that because setuputils is missing? | 21:58 |
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| jlk | no, it's because of a mismatch between oslo.config and oslo.utils versions | 21:59 |
| jlk | because we can't have nice things | 21:59 |
| klindgren_ | ah | 22:00 |
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| harlowja | pip will get a real dependency solver sometime | 22:23 |
| harlowja | it will happen soon i hope | 22:23 |
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| jlk | it can only solve the dependencies it's told about | 22:53 |
| jlk | and with python that requires humans. | 22:53 |
| jlk | no library symbol versioning to work with | 22:53 |
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| harlowja | agreed | 23:13 |
| harlowja | dynamic language be dynamic | 23:14 |
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