Thursday, 2015-10-08

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klindgrenj^2, Update on magnum.  It's dead to me.15:52
j^2HA!15:52
j^2i was a there too15:52
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j^2granted at Tokyo i’ll be revisiting it for my cookbooks15:53
klindgrenLike seriously I dont know how any of their unit tests/CICD shit passes15:53
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klindgren[1] https://github.com/auchenberg/volkswagen?utm_source=devmag.io15:54
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klindgrenAnyway was working with kilo version of Magnum.  MASsive assumption about have you have your cloud setup.  So I refactored the heat scripts to work with nova-networking style of heat templates15:55
klindgrenGet everythign working (BTW their is no tagged version of mangumclient that works with the kilo version of code)15:56
klindgrenthen pod create fails to ever go from pending to active15:57
klindgrenSo I talk to the magnum peepz and bascially get the agreement that moving to master/liberty should have a better experience.15:57
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klindgrenOh first failure with magnum was using coreos, which the heat templates they use for coreos aren't supported in coreos's cloud-init15:58
klindgrennor have they for ~1+ years15:58
klindgrenSo I move to the Master version of the branch15:58
j^2damn15:59
klindgrennow suddenly barbican and swift is a freaking requirement for magnum to work15:59
klindgrenI change the magnum.conf to stop using barbican and to use local storage for ssl certs - gives warning that its for testing only...16:00
klindgrengo to createa bay and cant beause they merged a feature into master to require you specify the "network_driver" for a kube cluster16:00
klindgrenbut the latest pip installable version of the freaking client doesn't accept --network_driver as a flag16:00
klindgrenand from there... I pretty much said f**k it.16:01
klindgrenj^2, also forgot in the liberty version of magnum16:02
j^2:(16:03
klindgrenyou also need to be running neutron-lbaas16:03
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klindgrenso required services for liberty version of magnum are: Neutron (specifically creation of private networks, creation of routers, floating ips), heat, nova, swift (for docker registry stuff), barbican (for ssl storage stuff), neutron-lbaas (for load balancers)16:05
serverascodewow, who actually has all that running?16:11
klindgren+10000000016:13
klindgrenand I haven't even successfully created a container yet!16:14
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jlkklindgren: is barbican absolutely required?16:46
klindgrenjlk, you can convert to local storage16:46
klindgrenand give it a dir to store ssl certs16:47
jlkalright16:47
klindgrenbut it does give warning about it eing for "test" only16:47
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jlkwe're pushing back on barbican as much as possible.16:47
klindgrenbut default config is.... barbican16:47
jlkwithout an expensive HSM it's not really any better than storing creds on the filesystem16:47
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klindgrenmy issue is less with barbican and more - just pulling in every project under the sun - despite some of them not being widely adopted.  Also the lock-in to a specific way of doing things, from an operator perspective does not sit well with me.16:53
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jlkwell, I get that, a little bit, but I'm tired of seeing things that can be configured 20 different ways. I'd rather there be stronger opinions on how things should work16:55
jlkso I almost welcome the lock in16:56
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klindgrendrwahl, Astara question - Consider me 100% dumb on it.  Is this an neutron alternative?  or is it replacing only parts of neutron?  If its an alternative - does it work with existing heat templates dedicated to neutron?  EG can it provide enough of a neutron API that existing stuff works without much change.18:35
drwahlonly parts of neutron18:36
drwahlit's just a router, really18:36
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klindgrenso it's a L3 plugin to for neutron?18:37
klindgrenIE router, floating ip and then on top of that I assume the fw/lbaas18:38
drwahlso when neutron gets a 'router-create', astara jumps in and receives the message and creates a VM that will handle the routing18:38
klindgrenkk18:38
drwahland then neutron plugs in the L3 related ports to it18:38
drwahlit is one option to L3 segregation between tenants18:39
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drwahla co-worker of mine just posted this about Astara: http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/what-you-need-to-know-about-astara?awesm=awe.sm_cMoIS18:55
drwahlit does provide a little more insight18:55
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beddarias I said last time it came up, then do read about project calico too :)20:00
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klindgrenI assume you are doing work on calico?20:48
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darrencHi everyone, the Ops/Arch Guide meeting will be starting in 7 minutes in #openstack-op-guide21:24
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darrencwhoops, actually in #openstack-ops-guide21:26
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drwahlfinally got the blogpost up i was talking about a couple weeks ago: https://www.dreamhost.com/blog/2015/10/08/creating-images-for-dreamcompute/22:42
drwahl^^ talks about how we're using veewee to build images22:43
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mdormancool22:49
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