Wednesday, 2015-09-09

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gparaskevashello10:03
gparaskevasi am having a bit of an issue with a small OS cluster( deployed with OSAD, kilo, ubuntu, neutron ml2 linuxbridge)10:03
gparaskevasi create external netowrk(i also create an interface on my Home*router with the same vlan) i also create a router with gateway on that network10:04
gparaskevasi then create a private net with vxlan and a port on the above router10:05
gparaskevasnow ftom the instance attached on the prvate network i can ping the neutron router on both interfaces but i cannot ping internet10:05
gparaskevascan anyone help a little?10:05
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mdormanmfisch:  you around?   do you do the hybrid auth in keystone via a separate keystone domain?  or it’s just handled in the background by your special driver?18:09
mfischno domain support18:10
mfischhere's me and domains: http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1115873/images/o-OSTRICH-IN-THE-SAND-facebook.jpg18:11
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mdormanhaha18:12
mfischI think if you had domains you could skip the hybrid driver right?18:12
mdormanok that’s what i figured18:12
mdormani think?   we are looking at using a separate domain for heat-created users18:12
mfischmy main issue would be user management since there's no great way to get a user list from LDAP18:12
mdormanyeah.18:12
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raginbajinHmm. Just found a weird bug in neutron security rules.  If you mistype say 192.168.10.0/24 as "192.168.10.0/0" it makes the rule look like 0.0.0.0/0.  The user doesn't even know that it happened.19:11
raginbajinIt still shows up as 192.168.10.0/0 so you can eventually look at see, but if its automated, you'll never know till your box gets potentially compromised.19:12
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klindgrenraginbajin, is that actually a bug?19:46
* klindgren not really sure it is19:47
raginbajinHmm. 192.168.10.0/0 != 0.0.0.0/019:49
raginbajinThat's where I am a bit confused on19:49
raginbajinand if I'm confused on this, then I think a user who is less proficient is going to be even more confused. Especially when they ask for a CIDR network to be entered.19:50
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raginbajinI guess 192.168.10.0/0 is 0.0.0.0/0 but that's a pretty big concept for users to understand. Everyone else sees that as a subnet type of thing.  And why would anyone do a 192.168.10.0/0 meaning 0.0.0.0/0 when you could have just typed 0.0.0.0/0 anyways.19:54
raginbajin*shrug*  Just means that I have to watch rules a lot more carefully than I already do.19:55
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klindgrendoes anyone here use heat in production?22:27
xavpaiceyup22:27
xavpaiceour customers love it22:28
klindgrenwe are looking at magnum which uses heat.  Concerned about heat scaleability22:28
* xavpaice would love to use magnum but it's far off in the distance22:28
klindgrenxavpaice, any issues with heat?22:28
xavpaiceI suspect your setup is a bit larger than ours - we're still quite a small public cloud22:29
xavpaicewe're not using all of ceilometer, so the heat auto scaling stuff isn't enabled yet22:29
xavpaiceotherwise, it's been pretty solid22:29
xavpaicehaven't noticed any increase in load since installing it22:29
xavpaicejust happier customers - much simpler for them to spin up things rather than the long winded python bindings many were using before22:30
xavpaiceoh, come to think of it - we do occasionally get a support call that a heat stack is a bit 'stuck'22:31
xavpaiceusually it's a particular something has failed along the way, and the user doesn't have the ability to clean up22:31
xavpaicewe're in the process of getting up to date though, so it's only Juno at this stage - might be cleaner in Kilo/newer22:32
xavpaiceraginbajin: sounds like the only bug there is input validation - any rule with /0 is going to be utterly pointless22:34
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serverascodewe have heat in production in a public cloud, but not much use yet22:37
serverascodeseems to work fine though :)22:38
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sorrisonklindgren we use heat, when you have heat stacks and auto scaling the heat-engine process gets hammered, I think we have about 36 heat-engine workers and we only have ~20 users using it22:56
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xavpaiceouch22:57
klindgrenwe dont have auto-scalling due to ceilometer....22:57
xavpaicesuddenly I'm glad we don't have auto scaling (yet)22:57
klindgrenor rather - the fact that we removed ceilometer because it was worthless - and I am not sure I am willing to give it another go22:58
xavpaicewe run ceilometer as the metering it provides drives our billing - but the alarm side of things is quite different to the pollsters and notifications22:59
xavpaiceand auto scaling relies on the alarms we haven't implemented22:59
xavpaicewe've found, even in our small environment, ceilometer + Mongo scaling isn't as good as we'd like23:00
sorrisonYeah we are looking at gnocchi at the moment23:01
sorrisonbacked by influxdb, seems a better fit for TSD23:01
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klindgrenyea - we had a small at the time deployment - it took minutes for commands to ceilometer to return just a list of metrics23:30
klindgrentotally worthless23:30
klindgrenplus the load it added to neutron/nova was pretty huge23:30
mgagneanyone having issues with Ubuntu 14.04 + iscsiadm where you have to start iscsid manually once to get it to work?23:39
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* klindgren doesn23:58
klindgrendoesn't use iscsi and doesn't use Ubuntu23:58

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