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| mfisch | gfa_: we were not smart and didnt use a DNS entry for the mons | 14:16 |
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| mfisch | so we pay the price now | 14:16 |
| mfisch | a nova reboot is needed or a migration | 14:16 |
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| klindgren_ | mfisch, are you guys using anything locally to cache dns responses? | 16:14 |
| mfisch | yes | 16:16 |
| mfisch | clayton setup caching dns that we run on our haproxy boxes | 16:16 |
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| klindgren_ | kk - been nailed by the before | 16:35 |
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| klindgren_ | if you weren't I was going to suggest that you add it :-0 | 16:36 |
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| klindgren_ | we have had good luck with nscd | 16:36 |
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| Piet | We posted a draft version of the cloud personas to invision. | 19:27 |
| Piet | Feel free to comment - https://invis.io/VM41Q203B | 19:27 |
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| klindgren_ | <slight rant> | 20:16 |
| klindgren_ | the fact that deleting a project still orphans stuff inside openstack - 3 years later is "kinda" not acceptable. (I want to use other words here) | 20:17 |
| klindgren_ | </end slight rant> | 20:17 |
| jlk | yeah, that just gets into a huge hairy discussion | 20:19 |
| jlk | what's appropriate to delete, who has delete rights over those things, who tracks the task to delete all of the things, what if it fails part way through, etc.. | 20:19 |
| jlk | there is no real good "whole cloud wide" task manager, with ultimate rights across the board to delete resources, nor would it know the appropriate order in which to delete the things | 20:20 |
| klindgren_ | the result of which always seems to be "We should talk about this at the next summit" x6 times | 20:20 |
| klindgren_ | but yea - I totally get it, it falls squarely in no-ones project, but everyones project all at the same time | 20:21 |
| serverascode | I tried out the ospurge utility last week, works pretty good in a couple small tests | 20:24 |
| jlk | yeah that's the other answer | 20:30 |
| jlk | "This is a site administrator concern, not a project level concern" | 20:30 |
| jlk | "we emit notices, admins can consume them and act accordingly" | 20:30 |
| klindgren_ | So it seemed like that only works when you know the projectID/name of stuff you want to clean up? But it will not tell you that you have orphaned projects to beging with? Or do the doc's need updated? We use our own scripts at the moment to find stuff | 20:30 |
| klindgren_ | I have no problem working on making that a "big tent" solution, to listen on notifications.info (I assume) for the project deletion stuff and call in as admin to other projects to clean up the cruft | 20:32 |
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| klindgren_ | seems like ospruge is close to that solution - minus the listen to events and act stuff | 20:34 |
| klindgren_ | or closer - than say a set of bash scripts :-) | 20:34 |
| serverascode | yeah os purge works before you delete the tenant, afaik, or at least that was my experience | 20:40 |
| serverascode | I tried the other way the first time, lol | 20:41 |
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| serverascode | what we need is a project to delete projects | 20:44 |
| serverascode | it would be fun to name at least | 20:44 |
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| jlk | ScorchedTerra | 20:46 |
| serverascode | "scorch -a" would delete all projects and resources in the cloud | 20:50 |
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| jlk | other sites argue that they need to archive resources for a period of time before deletion, and then policy gets discussed, and blah. | 20:51 |
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| klindgren_ | jlk - thats fine, imho. Should be able to save the action for pending delete and wait until deletion date + (days) ,however - they have the same problems with users deleting vm's, images, ip's and stuff before removing a project now | 21:54 |
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