Thursday, 2015-07-30

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beddariklindgren_: voted for your https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/presentation/450010:11
beddariklindgren_: is there code yet? :)10:12
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beddariklindgren_: interested in how it is modeled, vs e.g Calico10:12
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klindgren_beddari, Thanks.  We have code for how we are running a network like that in production.  But really this stems from the LDT working group ask of neutron to be able to model networks that we run in production.14:39
klindgren_We all have L2 domains that are limited in scope (IE L2 everywhere doesn't happen), and we tie together mutliple broadcast domains with routes or a larger L3 network.  So thats what we are working on modeling.   Calico is interesting as they are basially pushing L2 all the way down to the hypervisor and everything else is routed.  Most of the people in LDT and HP's use case for this specifically typically run a larger L214:43
klindgren_network.  We (Godaddy) run L2 to top of rack, Racksapce typically runs L2 at a cell iirc - which is a few cabinets for them.  Others are somewhere in between as well.14:43
klindgren_RE: what we are talking about in the presentation, that is kinda the nextgen form of that would look like to satisfy the ask from the LDT group14:54
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beddariklindgren: thanks, that explains it well15:05
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klindgrenbeddari, these are the use cases we are trying toaddress: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Network_Segmentation_Usecases15:09
klindgrenthis is was "shot number one" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196812/15:10
klindgrenbut their are like 2-3 different views on how to do the same thing15:10
beddariklindgren: thanks, I've read some of that before, and yes, different views but at least there is conversation :)15:11
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klindgrenbeddari, yea - I need to follow up with Carl to see whats up15:13
beddariklindgren: we're in the ramp up / tech previews phase of a shared "academic cloud" infra in Norway and thus IPv6 + Calico (so not bothering with L2) seems to be a very simple way forward15:13
klindgrenyea - we actually looked at doing a fully routed model15:14
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klindgrenbut when our network engineers looked at it, it was going to scale as far as a mostly routed model.  Due to the large number of smaller routes15:14
beddarineed to run, crazy kids, thanks again15:14
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klindgrenas you know with ipv6 things only get wrose in the switches as each route is 2x the space in the cam table15:15
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beddariklindgren: yup I know, but still, for us at least, limiting instance mobility to "within cam table capacity" is a lesser problem16:42
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beddariklindgren: especially so when IPv4 is only by need, and everything is routed IPv6 only per default (easy to do with Calico)16:43
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WormManwoo, interview with a cloud company tomorrow, maybe I can go from 80% openstack to 100% openstack :)19:08
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jlkgood luck!19:12
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WormManwell, that is the drive19:27
WormManer, thanks19:27
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mgagnemdorman: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184155/20:29
mgagnemdorman: I also ported the patch locally. can we move forward by merging all the effort in the existing change?20:30
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mdormanmgagne:  hey sorry just noticed this21:29
mgagnemdorman: np21:30
mdormanso you want to leave 184155 open and merge our stuff there?21:30
mdormantaht works for me21:30
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mgagneyha, we should ask sorrison and just add Co-Authored-By if needed21:31
mgagneno need to duplicate work/change/review IMO21:31
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mdormanagreed21:41
mdormani have been meaning to look at that stuff but just haven’t had time.  lot of prod issues this week :-/21:41
mgagneeveryone in this channel understand what you are talking about :P21:41
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mdorman:)21:55
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klindgrenI guess I am confused - I thought starting with kilo they were stopping doing stable point releases? or rather cordinanted stable point releases22:10
klindgrenbut I see 2015.1.1 in all major projects so...?22:10
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