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| WormMan | gah, love these puppet modules... nova uses rabbit_userid, neutron uses rabbit_user | 00:17 |
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| Zucan | :) Seems like the puppet modules are following the inconsistent standards set forth by the different openstack projects :) | 00:18 |
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| WormMan | yea, inconsistent consistency | 00:18 |
| Zucan | exactly | 00:18 |
| WormMan | and I managed to totally miss the puppet complaint session at the summit :) | 00:19 |
| Zucan | There were so many complaint sessions to attend, can't attend them all.... | 00:20 |
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| jlk | heh | 00:20 |
| jlk | I figure my puppet complaints have been filed by me pushing Ansible | 00:20 |
| mdorman | WormMan / Zucan : yeah we want to get more consistency in that stuff. if you can file bugs under the puppet projects where you find that stuff, that would be useful | 00:21 |
| Zucan | Yup. I plan on doing that. | 00:22 |
| WormMan | I plan on grumbling, fixing my calling code(which was trying to use a single hiera hash for all rabbit parameters) | 00:23 |
| mdorman | cool, thanks. | 00:23 |
| Zucan | A lot of the inconsistencies I see are related to the CLI commands, which will be surplanted by the openstack client. eventually. :) | 00:23 |
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| mdorman | yup yup | 00:23 |
| mdorman | all related | 00:23 |
| WormMan | don't even get me started on the other stuff :) | 00:23 |
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| Zucan | :) heh heh | 00:23 |
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| mdorman | i have similar frustrations with the cli tools in general | 00:23 |
| WormMan | I'm trying to get HA enabled, some modules take different subets of the parameters and for the rest I have to call blah_config directly | 00:24 |
| Zucan | Yup. :) to tenant_id or tenant or not :) | 00:24 |
| mdorman | totally | 00:25 |
| WormMan | luckily, my current problem is as easy as: $neutron_os_opts = merge(delete($os_opts,'rabbit_userid'),{'rabbit_user' => $os_opts['rabbit_userid']} ) | 00:27 |
| mdorman | so you use a hash like that to provide the parameters to the neutron class? are you using create_resources ? | 00:28 |
| WormMan | mdorman: yes, it's all coming from hiera instead of the chains of parameters that the openstack module uses | 00:28 |
| Zucan | yeah, we use hiera extensively too... in fact, we depend on it | 00:29 |
| Zucan | (get it?) :) | 00:29 |
| WormMan | which I find even more fragile | 00:29 |
| WormMan | here, let's copy the same parameter 10 times | 00:29 |
| WormMan | of course, I have to do some fun templating in hiera... | 00:30 |
| WormMan | auth_uri: "http://%{hiera('os_api_fqdn')}:5000/v2.0" | 00:30 |
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| WormMan | still need to clean that mess up a bit... :) | 00:31 |
| WormMan | of course, if every module used the same names for the same options... | 00:31 |
| mdorman | right, right | 00:32 |
| mdorman | do you use the data binding stuff at all? so where you can just ‘include neutron’, and it’ll automatically pull in the parameters from neutron for you? | 00:32 |
| mdorman | you still have the different-parameter-name-in-every-module problem, but at least makes the manifest code cleaner | 00:33 |
| mdorman | in any case i think i can say that we def. want to make that experience better for people. now that the puppet stuff is in the ‘big tent’ we are getting a little more serious about this stuff | 00:33 |
| mdorman | but we can always use help, too, so feel free to send patches over :) | 00:33 |
| WormMan | see, this time I'm not patching anything :) | 00:34 |
| WormMan | the nice thing is by abusing create_resources my control node HA pair is now 600 lines of puppet instead of 1800 | 00:35 |
| WormMan | also, I enjoy unintended side effects, like "class{'nova::network': enable=>false)" trying to enable ip_forwarding | 00:36 |
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| WormMan | I suppose once I make the cloud go(tm) I can circle back and think about fixing the base code | 00:37 |
| WormMan | still having to hard call the blah_config on a bunch of nova and neutron stuff | 00:38 |
| mdorman | yeah well at least teh *_config providers are there so that’s pretty easy | 00:39 |
| WormMan | yea, the trick is figuring out what I, or puppet, missed | 00:39 |
| WormMan | the ML2 stuff is just lovely | 00:40 |
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| mdorman | is anybody doing event publishing with ceilometer? is ceilometer-collector the service that actually handles dispatching the events to the publisher? or is that some other service? | 17:13 |
| mdorman | trying to get a minimal ceilometer set up that just consumes notifications from the other services, and then dispatches those back out to kafka. i don’t need/want any of the metering or alarming stuff | 17:14 |
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| mdorman | mfisch: you seen http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2015-May/012892.html ? (re: fernet tokens with ldap identity backend) | 19:45 |
| mfisch | yeah | 19:46 |
| mfisch | we're not affectec | 19:46 |
| mfisch | affected | 19:46 |
| mdorman | kk | 19:46 |
| mfisch | because we're still using keystone ids for user ids | 19:46 |
| mdorman | gottcha | 19:46 |
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