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| melwitt | same root failure during create of cinder resources on stable/stein "libvirt.libvirtError: operation failed: 'serial' is deprecated, please use the corresponding option of '-device' instead Could not open '/dev/sdb': Permission denied" https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/e1050a661fec47b49d6d7babc89d71d3/log/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt#3267 | 00:37 |
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| melwitt | why can't it open /dev/sdb -_- | 00:37 |
| melwitt | rather, why is it Permission Denied. argh. | 00:39 |
| melwitt | opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-gate/+bug/1919920 fwiw | 00:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1919920 in OpenStack-Gate "volume related tests sometimes fail with " Could not open '/dev/sdb': Permission denied" on stable/train and stable/stein" [Undecided,New] | 00:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/ussuri: libvirt: Increase incremental and max sleep time during device detach https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/757306 | 05:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: [stable-only] Move grenade jobs to experimental https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781134 | 06:48 |
| eandersson | The whole settings in the database is one of the hardest things for new operators to troubleshoot | 07:02 |
| eandersson | When changing the names of rmq server there seems to be no errors in the logs for some reasons | 07:03 |
| eandersson | And if operators are not aware of that "feature" it is probably the last place they will oook | 07:03 |
| eandersson | *look | 07:03 |
| eandersson | I guess maybe because the old rabbitmq servers are still online, so it's just a really bad "split brain". | 07:04 |
| eandersson | At least for us a common scenario has been to have RabbitMQ and OpenStack services on the same node, but when scaling out having dedicated rmq servers is a thing | 07:05 |
| eandersson | but it's not clear to anyone that the rmq config is actually in the database | 07:06 |
| eandersson | (and again super difficult to troubleshoot) | 07:06 |
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| stephenfin | lyarwood, gibi: So in opting for HTTP 409, I was actually following two existing examples: we do this already for both SEV and vTPM issues | 09:35 |
| stephenfin | Everything I've read about HTTP 403 suggests it's to do with authorization issues. That's why we use it for policy. There's are no issues with authorization here. The issue is that the server understood the request but can't support it. HTTP 409 seemed the best of a bad bunch | 09:37 |
| stephenfin | HTTP 400 doesn't seem right either. That would suggest that the request was incorrectly formed. Again, it's correct but we simply can't support it | 09:38 |
| stephenfin | lyarwood, gibi: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/exception.py#L528-L537 | 09:39 |
| lyarwood | stephenfin: right, I saw the examples and I was initially okay with this | 09:44 |
| lyarwood | stephenfin: I honestly don't care either way tbh, both are a compromise AFAICT | 09:44 |
| lyarwood | stephenfin: lets chat with gmann later and agree which way to land on this before the deadline tomorrow that gibi raised yesterday | 09:45 |
| stephenfin | I think so too. I thought there was an explicit "the server understands this request but can't service it" code, but I can't find one | 09:45 |
| stephenfin | Sounds good. I'll propose a spec update on the assumption that we're going with HTTP 409. I can update if gmann talks us around | 09:45 |
| lyarwood | sounds good | 09:47 |
| lyarwood | ops snap | 09:47 |
| lyarwood | stephenfin: how's the hangover btw? | 09:48 |
| stephenfin | from all the pints in the pubs I wasn't allowed into? | 09:48 |
| stephenfin | :) | 09:48 |
| lyarwood | stephenfin: fair point, I did stumble across this yesterday and suddenly wanted a pint https://soundsofthepub.com/ | 09:49 |
| * lyarwood checks https://onewayroadtobeer.com/ to see how long he has to wait in the UK | 09:50 | |
| lyarwood | 24 days until beer gardens open | 09:50 |
| lyarwood | and I bet it rains, all day. | 09:50 |
| stephenfin | hahaha | 09:50 |
| stephenfin | nice one | 09:50 |
| gibi | stephenfin, lyarwood: yeah, as I said before I have no hard opininon. And also nova is not consistent about such error code so nothing to force ourselves into. | 09:51 |
| kashyap | lyarwood: What do you mean 24 days? Is it some UK deadline? | 09:51 |
| kashyap | Morning, BTW | 09:51 |
| lyarwood | kashyap: yes | 09:51 |
| kashyap | lyarwood: Sweet. On rain ... paradise is a well-watered garden, ya know :D | 09:52 |
| lyarwood | kashyap: beer gardens (pubs) and outside dining allowed in ~24 days. | 09:52 |
| * kashyap ducks | 09:52 | |
| gibi | stephenfin: I think the understood, but cannot support is a 500 code like 501 | 09:52 |
| kashyap | lyarwood: Nice. I thought I'll slowly go senile and die before seeing any of these | 09:52 |
| kashyap | (I mean, they're making similar murmurs here too of opening by 01May) | 09:52 |
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| gibi | stephenfin: but the https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/http/response-codes.html#use-of-501-not-implemented disagrees with me about 501 | 09:54 |
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| gibi | if we follow that guide ^^ then we should use 400 | 09:56 |
| gibi | but I agree to wait for gmann to get up and make a decision | 09:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: DNM - Testing glance backports to fix bug #1919993 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781237 | 10:00 |
| openstack | bug 1919993 in Glance "test_image_web_download_import_with_bad_url failing on stable/victoria" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1919993 | 10:00 |
| lyarwood | dansmith: ^ re https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1919993 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/781236 - when you're online could you take a swing at these glance backports to unblock stable/victoria for Nova? | 10:01 |
| lyarwood | branchless tempest ftw once again | 10:01 |
| * lyarwood screams into the void | 10:01 | |
| lyarwood | elod: ^ btw, that should unblock stable/victoria, not sure if you're in stable-glance-core via stable-maint? | 10:07 |
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| elod | lyarwood: yes I have +2 right there as well, I'll review it now | 10:15 |
| lyarwood | thanks | 10:18 |
| gibi | stephenfin: I need your sphinx experties in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780401/1/nova/api/openstack/compute/rest_api_version_history.rst#1145 | 10:20 |
| gibi | stephenfin: the current way is fine by me but maybe there is other possibilities | 10:20 |
| stephenfin | gibi: That works, but we could/should probably just update the release note in novaclient | 10:23 |
| stephenfin | i.e. add https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780401/1/nova/api/openstack/compute/rest_api_version_history.rst#392 | 10:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Change error code when vDPA is unsupported https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/781259 | 10:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: trivial: Fix spelling, formatting of vDPA spec https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/781260 | 10:24 |
| gibi | stephenfin: so have an explicit well named anchor in the nova doc and update the novaclient reno to refer to the well named anchor? | 10:26 |
| stephenfin | I think that would be a better approach, yes | 10:26 |
| stephenfin | Personally | 10:26 |
| gibi | OK lets do that | 10:26 |
| gibi | I can propose the fix | 10:26 |
| stephenfin | Sounds good. Happy to review | 10:27 |
| gibi | cool | 10:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Reject requests to commit intermediary snapshot of an inactive instance https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781138 | 11:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Delegate OVS plug to os-vif https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/602432 | 11:12 |
| lyarwood | gibi: mind if I add a cinder cross project session in the PTG pad, have a topic. | 11:20 |
| gibi | lyarwood: please do | 11:20 |
| lyarwood | done thanks | 11:28 |
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| lyarwood | elod: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/758733/ is ready for review btw | 11:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add a resource limits guide https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781433 | 12:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add a real-time guide https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781434 | 12:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Remove duplicate TPM extra spec info https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781435 | 12:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Remove duplicated PCI passthrough extra spec info https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781436 | 12:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add SEV guide https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781437 | 12:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add CPU models guide https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781438 | 12:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Change formatting of hypervisor config guides https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781439 | 12:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add libvirt misc doc https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781440 | 12:31 |
| stephenfin | Some good docs there. I was holding off until after feature freeze ^ | 12:31 |
| kashyap | stephenfin: Cool; a separate CPU models guide is good; instead of that info buried elsewhere | 12:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add image metadata property reference guide https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/756867 | 12:37 |
| kashyap | stephenfin: We could also link docs like these into it: something like "See also: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/mitigation-for-Intel-MDS-security-flaws.html" | 12:37 |
| kashyap | If only to make it more discoverable; /me adds a note in the review | 12:37 |
| stephenfin | I'll probably move that doc into the cpu-models one (with a redirect) at some point | 12:37 |
| stephenfin | It would fit nicely in there as a concrete use case | 12:37 |
| kashyap | Yeah. Idd | 12:39 |
| kashyap | stephenfin: There's additional things we can mention on 'host-model' that can be very useful for people to know _why_ we default to it | 12:41 |
| * kashyap goes to add some notes in the change | 12:41 | |
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| elod | lyarwood: +2+W'd | 12:49 |
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| lyarwood | elod: thanks | 13:02 |
| kashyap | stephenfin: Sorry for the wall o' text here, but I hope some useful crumbs in there: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781438 | 13:10 |
| kashyap | s/hope/hope there are/ | 13:13 |
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| dansmith | lyarwood: ugh, yeah sorry.. fix a bug, get punished I guess | 13:23 |
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| dansmith | lyarwood: assuming that's going to affect all older branches, we may want to make tempest only rely on that behavior for new enough glance | 13:24 |
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| gibi | stephenfin: it seems '.. _2.88 microversion:' does not generate an anchor but '.. _microversion 2.88:' does generate 'microversion-2-88' as an anchor | 13:28 |
| gibi | so I'm wondering how our other anchors starting with numbers in the microversion history document ever worked | 13:28 |
| lyarwood | dansmith: no issues, no idea about the glance jobs but Nova only started testing that in stable/victoria so the backports should be enough for us | 13:28 |
| dansmith | lyarwood: ahh, right | 13:29 |
| dansmith | man gerrit is s l o w today | 13:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Use well named anchor into the microversion history https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/781484 | 13:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: doc: mark the max microversion for wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780401 | 14:03 |
| gibi | stephenfin: ^^ your turn | 14:04 |
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| mnaser | weirdest thing ever | 14:07 |
| mnaser | we changed the db for a system (literally, just mysqldump | mysql) | 14:07 |
| mnaser | and now, limit= from nova api is always returning exactly half of what we are supposed to get | 14:07 |
| mnaser | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BEMJghhM/ | 14:08 |
| mnaser | anyone seen something like this? o_O | 14:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: block_device: Use initialize APIs to refresh when reported as idempotent https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/720769 | 14:18 |
| gmann | lyarwood: gibi stephenfin IMO, 400 is right one and if we change existing 409/403 to 400 it does not require microversion bump. | 14:25 |
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| lyarwood | mnaser: odd running master? | 14:44 |
| lyarwood | stephenfin: ^ are you cool with gmann's suggestion? | 14:44 |
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| dansmith | elod: [07:53:00] <abhishekk> lyarwood, dansmith may be Elod will approve the patches while I am gone | 14:57 |
| elod | lyarwood: I think https://review.opendev.org/781493 needs to be squashed with https://review.opendev.org/781426/ otherwise gate won't pass, am I right? | 14:57 |
| elod | dansmith: sure | 14:57 |
| abhishekk | elod, right | 14:57 |
| lyarwood | jebus | 14:58 |
| abhishekk | dansmith, so to avoid all this dance, can we just drop lower constraints job? | 14:58 |
| lyarwood | okay sorry | 14:58 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: yeah, for sure, I was just trying to avoid the dance since it was supposed to all be headed to the gate | 14:59 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: but if you want to push that in underneath (or get lyarwood to do it) that's fine with me | 14:59 |
| abhishekk | and sqash the dropping of nova-ceph job with action wrapper | 14:59 |
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| dansmith | I wasn't 100% sure we had settled on that as a wider community, as was asserted in the meeting, but I was definitely not following that whole thread | 14:59 |
| abhishekk | ok, so lets keep it as it is at the moment | 14:59 |
| lyarwood | I'll squash things now | 15:00 |
| abhishekk | lyarwood, yep, go ahead | 15:00 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: to be clear, I'm saying at this point, we're not headed for gate, so we can do whatever you want :) | 15:00 |
| dansmith | lyarwood: has nova dropped the lower-constraints job(s)? | 15:00 |
| abhishekk | dansmith, yes, lets merge that dropping lower constraint patch differently | 15:01 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: ack | 15:01 |
| abhishekk | after this is done | 15:01 |
| elod | no, lc jobs are still there (only disabled on rocky(?)) | 15:01 |
| lyarwood | dansmith: no | 15:01 |
| dansmith | ack, okay | 15:01 |
| gmann | dansmith: abhishekk we still have not concluded that what to do on l-c job | 15:01 |
| gmann | discussing in today TC meeting | 15:01 |
| dansmith | gmann: okay I thought it wasn't quite decided yet, but others seemed to think it was | 15:02 |
| abhishekk | gmann, ack, thanks | 15:02 |
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| bauzas | gibi: dansmith: fwiw, I removed my -2 from https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/761452 as we're after the FF | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Use proper headers in nova-manage man page https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/726191 | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Rewrite 'nova-manage db' docs to use proper directives https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/677509 | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Rewrite 'nova-manage api_db', 'cell_v2' docs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/726192 | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Rewrite 'nova-manage placement' docs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/726193 | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Document options for remaining nova-* commands https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/726195 | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Populate "See Also" section with meaningful links https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/729917 | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add man pages for 'nova-policy' https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/729918 | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Rewrite 'nova-manage libvirt' docs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781504 | 15:43 |
| bauzas | dansmith: still working on removing 5.0 but given we only have a week, maybe we should just merge the above ? ^ | 15:44 |
| dansmith | bauzas: ack, I'm out tomorrow and won't get to revisiting that today I expect, so whatever gibi wants to do | 15:45 |
| bauzas | dansmith: given we will remove the V5proxy in Xena, the 5.0 support would only be in the Wallaby release | 15:45 |
| gibi | dansmith bauzas: if we land what we have today, does that pose any serious limitation? | 15:46 |
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| bauzas | gibi: mmmm, I don't know | 15:46 |
| dansmith | gibi: well, I haven't reviewed the latest rev, but no, it's just more than we need and also it lies a bit about older versions we say we can support but can't really, but in practice it's probably not a big deal | 15:47 |
| bauzas | we have a lof of merge conflicts that said => https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/761452 | 15:47 |
| gibi | dansmith: OK, so it is safe to merge, and if time allows we can improve. But considering RC1 next week I don't think we will improve much | 15:47 |
| dansmith | again, haven't reviewed the latest one, but the approach yeah | 15:48 |
| * dansmith is in another meeting | 15:48 | |
| gibi | I reviewed the changes between the version you reviewed and the latest and nothing major there. So I ugrade my vote to +2 | 15:50 |
| gibi | btw, nova meeting starts in 10 minutes in #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:51 |
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| elod | lyarwood: about https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/758733 | 15:55 |
| elod | lyarwood: only victoria is hit by the nova-ceph-multistore failure | 15:55 |
| lyarwood | elod: urgh sorry | 15:56 |
| elod | lyarwood: as only there exists the job | 15:56 |
| elod | afais | 15:56 |
| lyarwood | elod: I got a little carried away, someone was rechecking my stable/victoria changes | 15:56 |
| lyarwood | elod: I've removed my -W | 15:56 |
| elod | ok, no problem :) | 15:56 |
| frickler | wasn't there a tool to resync placement data with nova-compute (on stein)? I have 14 instances on my compute, but only 6 in placement | 15:56 |
| elod | lyarwood: just wanted to highlight that only victoria is blocked. (i guess the glance fix can be backported to older branches, though) | 15:57 |
| lyarwood | frickler: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/stein/cli/nova-manage.html#placement heal_allocations? | 15:57 |
| frickler | lyarwood: ah, "heal" was the keyword, thx | 15:58 |
| lyarwood | elod: yeah assuming it applies, I can't recall when the feature was landed | 15:58 |
| lyarwood | frickler: np | 15:58 |
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| gibi | lyarwood: could you hit the VDPA reno? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780866 | 16:37 |
| lyarwood | sure | 16:37 |
| gibi | thanks | 16:38 |
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| lyarwood | gibi: can we chat about the libvirt detach series tomorrow if you still have bandwidth to land it before rc | 17:10 |
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| Luzi | stephenfin: it seems you care for the documentation in nova :) do you have some time to review this doc fix for secure live migration: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781030 | 17:27 |
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| gibi | lyarwood: sure, I will ping you in the morning, my afternoon is pretty hectic | 17:31 |
| stephenfin | Luzi: Sure. I meant to do that this morning | 17:32 |
| lyarwood | gibi: kk sounds good, I'll be driving my kid around first thing, should be online by ~10am GMT | 17:33 |
| lyarwood | if not it can wait until Monday, just want to help get it over the line | 17:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: rt: Make resource tracker always invoking get_inventory() https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/778014 | 17:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Update resources once in update_available_resource https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/612295 | 17:37 |
| Luzi | stephenfin, thank you | 17:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add image metadata property reference guide https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/756867 | 17:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Change 'add_stylesheet' to 'add_css_file' https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781529 | 17:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add 'nova:image-meta:' directive, role https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781530 | 17:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add cross-references to image metadata properties https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781531 | 17:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Add config parameter 'live_migration_scheme' to live migration with tls guide https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781030 | 19:01 |
| gibi | lyarwood: ack, talk to you tomorrow | 19:02 |
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