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openstackgerritJinsheng Zhang proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Add nova support ironic instance port group network metadata  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78020901:57
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openstackgerritWenping Song proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Trival change: correct some nits  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/78044302:17
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prometheanfireso...  I have a server I migrated, it was powered off before the migration, it backend is cinder for all disks.  I cannot confirm or revert the migration, openstackclient returns 'Instance has not been resized.'03:22
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* prometheanfire force reset the state instead, dirty hack03:38
prometheanfireI can probably recreate the error situation easilly if someone is interested03:38
openstackgerritWenping Song proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Repropose vGPU support spec  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/78045204:15
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lyarwoodMorning, I guess we need to leave the gate alone to allow the vDPA and secure-boot stuff to land right?09:05
gibilyarwood: hi! do you have a plan to disturb the gate somehow? :)09:06
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lyarwoodgibi: I mean just in terms of load etc09:08
lyarwoodgibi: approving additional things09:08
lyarwoodlike https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:bug/1552042 ;)09:08
gibiI think bugfixes should go. I don't see how that can effectively slow down the vdpa and secure boot landing09:09
lyarwoodkk09:09
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lyarwoodbauzas: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780286 - would you mind hitting this today to unblock stable/rocky?09:19
bauzaslyarwood: sure, looking09:22
kashyaplyarwood: gibi: I think it's not worth to backport anything that is _not_ a CVE fix for stable/train, is it?09:23
kashyapMorning, BTW09:23
kashyaplyarwood: gibi: What I have in mind is the "allow disabling CPU flags" feature -- it can potentially save people from lots of tricky positions.  But, stable/train goes EOL in a couple of months09:24
gibikashyap: you called that a feature, that categorization already prevents backporting09:26
kashyapSo I'm ambivalent for upstream.  If downstreams need it; they should maintain the backport on their own.09:26
kashyapgibi: Fair enough :-)09:26
kashyapgibi: For an imaginary case: you wouldn't object backporting a small "feature" (not a big one) to a long-term stable branch if it can potentially save a lot of future misery, would you?09:28
lyarwoodkashyap: https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html sets out the upstream policy09:29
kashyap("I would object" is a valid answer, though :-))09:29
* kashyap goes to re-read it09:29
kashyaplyarwood: I'm not going to backport it to stable/train, but for discussion's sake: the backport fits all criteria: it's small and self-contained; not invasive at all; not user-visible, but still can save your rear ... and so on09:31
kashyapThanks for the link.  I'll stop theoretical discussions here :-)09:31
gibikashyap: allowing feature backports is a slippery slope09:32
kashyapgibi: I fully agree; but the devil is in the details, right?  If it's a tiny, targetted "feature", but can facilitate a security mitigation (which is a real possibility, BTW), then what?09:33
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kashyapThe concrete example is: there can be a future CVE which can be mitigated only disabling a CPU flag fo rthe guest.09:34
kashyapgibi: That said, I agree with you for the rest of the 98% of cases, it is a slippery slope.09:35
kashyapMissing word earlier: s/only/only by/09:35
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gibiwhen we have such CVE to mitigate then we have to decide how to mitigate that.09:38
gibiif the only obvious way is to backport you change then we can consider that09:38
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lucasagomessean-k-mooney, morning, if u have sometime mind taking a look at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/776934, https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/776419 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/776944 ? Simple patches, all with +2's already09:39
lucasagomesops... last one has a merge conflict. Lemme fix it09:40
kashyapgibi: Yep; fun fact: that's what we did when we introduced the config option :-)09:40
kashyap(It helped mitigate a flaw at that time by _enabling_ two CPU flags)09:40
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova master: [OVN] Adapt the live-migration job scripts to work with OVN  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/77641909:43
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova master: [OVN] Explicitly set grenade job to ML2/OVS  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/77693409:43
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova master: [OVN] Explicitly set nova-next job to ML2/OVS  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/77694409:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: fakelibvirt: make kB_mem default not laughable  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/77955909:44
gibikashyap: I vaguely rememeber09:46
gibianyhow we have a national holiday today here in Hungary so I will be going on and off during the day09:47
kashyapgibi: /me wrote documentation for it here :-) -- https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/mitigation-for-Intel-MDS-security-flaws.html09:47
gibisean-k-mooney: I've found ony problem with the vdpa ops blcoking patch09:47
kashyapgibi: Ah, enjoy the day.  It is even sunny here today09:47
gibiit is not bad here either09:48
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brinzhangbauzas: good morning^10:08
brinzhangbauzas: you comment in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/778440 with bug 191759210:08
openstackbug 1917592 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Missed 'accel_uuids' when we the 'shelved_offload_time' time out in shelving instance periodic task" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1917592 - Assigned to Brin Zhang (zhangbailin)10:08
bauzasbrinzhang: good afternoon10:09
bauzas(I have to leave in 5 mins for getting my children from school)10:09
brinzhangbauzas: ack, dont worry10:10
brinzhangabout your concern, does it need to add an cyborg get multiple arqs apis?10:10
bauzasbrinzhang: well, the point is that we call the Cyborg API for each of the instance10:15
bauzasbut my -1 was more about the L948010:15
* bauzas needs to go off10:16
brinzhangbauzas: ack, not in a hurry, thanks10:17
brinzhanggibi: do you have some suggestion? bauzas's concern is the cyborgclient may get many times if there are some bound accel:device_profile instance10:18
brinzhangs/some/any/10:19
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lyarwoodelod / bauzas / melwitt ; https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780287 - final stable/queens ceph fix should be good to go btw13:17
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sean-k-mooneygibi: hi yep its an issue ill fix that and convert it to using the info cache quickly otherwise are you ok with the approch13:47
sean-k-mooneyim technically off this week but im going to intermitenly check the status of the vdpa patches until they are all merged but expect delays since i will only be checking evey few hours13:48
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gibisean-k-mooney: I'm OK with the approach13:49
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openstackgerritTakashi Kajinami proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add openstackclient-plugin-jobs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/78059814:27
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bauzasdansmith: I got hit by Zuul when changing the pre-live-migration method, so I'll try to not accept 5.014:30
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k-s-deanHi would someone be able to help me.14:32
k-s-deanHow does nova notify neutron / designate of VM details ?14:32
sean-k-mooneyvia a port update. for neutron it updates teh device_id with the instance uuid in port binding prodmently and designate reads the info from the neutron port14:38
sean-k-mooneynova does not directly interact with designate14:39
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k-s-deansean thanks for answering I'm getting ignore in all the other channels, I'm hitting an issue where the fixed IPs are being put in DNS. I've been asking around but cant get to the bottom of it. It worked in stein.14:43
sean-k-mooneyi think that is expected14:43
sean-k-mooneywhen using designate the fixed ips set on the neutron port are registred in dns so that vms can directlly ssh to other vms via there host/dns name14:44
k-s-deanIn the neutron documentation it says that the VMs name gets appended on to the dns domain on port update events.14:44
k-s-deanspecifically for floating IPs14:44
k-s-deansomething has obviously changed since I last installed openstack.14:45
sean-k-mooneyi was always under the impression that both fix and floating ips were always regeistred14:46
sean-k-mooneythough the dns name might be different for each14:46
k-s-deanThe floating IP is being registered but like so14:46
k-s-dean 10-30-0-205.os.example.com.         | A    | 10.30.0.20514:47
k-s-deanI swear that in stein the VMs name was added to that DNS name14:47
k-s-deanhttps://docs.openstack.org/ocata/networking-guide/config-dns-int.html#config-dns-int-dns-resolution14:47
k-s-deanthese docs are wrong then.14:47
sean-k-mooneyi have 172-20-5-191.cloud.seanmooney.info.   cyborg-1.cloud.seanmooney.info.   cyborg-1.sean.cloud.seanmooney.info.14:49
sean-k-mooneyall for the same vm14:49
k-s-deanare those assigned to the floating IP or fixed IP14:50
sean-k-mooneyfixed14:50
k-s-deanis that for internal DNS resolution then ?14:50
k-s-deannot external14:50
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k-s-deanbecause I thought dns mask needed to be setup for that14:51
sean-k-mooneywell this is my home cloud and all the ips in my neturon subnet allocation pool are routable14:51
sean-k-mooneymy vms only get public ipv6 address14:51
k-s-deanYeah, so thats where I think there has been a major change.14:51
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k-s-deanin the neutron docs. Use case 2: Floating IPs are published with associated port DNS attributes14:52
k-s-deanyou can see at the end the floating IP is assigned the VMS name.14:52
k-s-deanI can work around this by using a flat provider network,14:52
k-s-deanand attach the VMs directly to the network.14:52
sean-k-mooneywell floating ips are named by the enduser when you create them14:52
sean-k-mooneynova does not create floating ips fro you14:53
k-s-deanok i thought that when you attach a floating IP to an instance, neutron would notify nova of the port update and nova would notify designate of the VMS name14:53
sean-k-mooneyno14:54
sean-k-mooneyto attach a floating ip you call the nova api but we do not call designate.14:54
sean-k-mooneyits possible that designate is listing to nova notifcation bus14:54
k-s-deanit is.14:55
sean-k-mooneyim not sure it does any more14:55
k-s-deanthe way this works has obviously changed, since stein14:55
sean-k-mooneyit used too14:55
sean-k-mooneybut any change in this behavior is on the designate/neutron side14:55
k-s-deanif the expected workflow is that the dns name for floating IPs is specified by the user then I'll have to live with that.14:55
k-s-deanon my last openstack installation. it worked as specified in Use case 2: Floating IPs are published with associated port DNS attributes14:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: libvirt: Use firmware metadata files to configure instance  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/77930414:56
k-s-deanin the neutron docs i posted above.14:56
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sean-k-mooneywell as i said that behavior before was not provided by nova it was provide by designate14:58
sean-k-mooneyit might still be possibel to do but you would have to look at what was change in designate and if its configurable14:58
k-s-deanok thanks sean, much appreciated14:58
k-s-deanI've been going round in circles because this use to work before.14:59
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sean-k-mooneylooking at my own installl designate has stopped registering dns entires entirely which is nice of it.15:00
k-s-deanwow ok.15:00
sean-k-mooneyi will be reinsitalling my home cloud in the next month or so and designate as much as i like it is one of the service im trying to desicied if ill keep15:01
k-s-deanI basically have to disable the nova:fixed handler in designate-sink so that it does not register the fixed IPs15:01
k-s-deanWhat would you use instead ?15:01
sean-k-mooneyfor my home install just updating my cloudflare dns entires by hand15:01
k-s-deanI'm open to suggestions. Its just a nice to have if I can register VM names in DNS. I dont have to faf around with my internal firewall.15:02
sean-k-mooneywhich would be a regression but i could live with it15:02
sean-k-mooneyk-s-dean: yep it really is nice to have15:02
k-s-deanoh well. I plan on using terraform for spinning up VMs so I guess i'll manually have to specify the dns name each time.15:03
k-s-deanor I switch to a flat network completely. then it works as I expect.15:03
k-s-deanI'm tempted to run, Stein containers in kolla to see if that works. but i know different versions aren't supported between release15:04
sean-k-mooneyin my case i think i just have a bug in the verion i have deployed as it use to work fine15:04
sean-k-mooneyim also debating about removing https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/admin/config-bgp-dynamic-routing.html15:04
k-s-deanis your cloud exposed directly to the internet ? via your ISP15:05
sean-k-mooneynot quite15:05
stephenfingibi: bauzas: lyarwood: Despite appearances, sean-k-mooney is on PTO this week so I was going to rework https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780333/ I think it's important enough to warrant inclusion15:05
stephenfinAny issues with me doing that?15:05
stephenfinJust waiting for https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/770532/ to (hopefully) merge first since the rest of the series is in merge conflict too15:06
sean-k-mooneyk-s-dean:i have a ipv6 tunnel from hurican eletric which i then have a /48 from which i can allocate to vms15:06
lyarwoodstephenfin: none, should we ban sean-k-mooney ? /s15:07
stephenfinkick them kick them kick them...15:07
* stephenfin chants15:07
sean-k-mooneyhehe im finishin ga release note update and ill be going away then15:07
sean-k-mooneyi need to charge the battery in my car...15:07
lyarwoodwhere did I put that ban hammer15:08
sean-k-mooneyturns out you should drive it more then once every few months15:08
lyarwoodhaha15:08
lyarwoodyeah15:08
k-s-deanSorry, I'm taking up your time. I'll shoot off and live with the limitations.15:08
sean-k-mooneyk-s-dean: no worres sorry i could not help more15:08
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k-s-deanNo problem thanks for helping me out. Better to get an answer from someone who is actively working on openstack. then I can go tell my boss that we will have to live with it rather than expecting it to work.15:09
sean-k-mooneyk-s-dean: if you dont get a responce on the designate channel try emailing the mailing list.15:11
sean-k-mooneyi use designate but i dont follow its developemnt so there might be a simple fix i dont know about15:11
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k-s-deanok will do. I'm gonna try build a designate stein container push that to my environment see if it breaks.15:13
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openstackgerritsean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: block unsupported actions with vdpa.  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78033315:28
sean-k-mooneyok ill be away for the next while ill check back ocationally but ^ shoudl not document the limitation in the release note and it now uses the network info cache instead of calling neutron where possibel.15:30
stephenfinsean-k-mooney: thanks, saves me some work :)15:32
sean-k-mooney*should now document15:39
sean-k-mooneystephenfin: hehe well i just worte doc so i dont know fixing the typos if their are any might be more work :P15:40
sean-k-mooneyo/15:40
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gibistephenfin: no problem if you take over vdpa from sean-k-mooney16:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/queens: [stable-only] gate: Pin CEPH_RELEASE to nautilus in LM hook  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78028719:29
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