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| xiaolin | kashyap: gibi: thanks for the help. It works! The error "unexpected host-model" disappear, but I got a new error "Instance failed to spawn: UEFINotSupported: UEFI is not supported". In order to successfully run the VM on my host with MIPS architecture, I made a patch for nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py. Need I report the bug? | 02:29 |
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| bauzas | good morning Nova | 07:27 |
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| alex_xu | bauzas: good morning | 07:34 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: hope you're all good after 2 days of very late meetings | 07:35 |
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| alex_xu | bauzas: thanks, totally better than long flight :) | 07:37 |
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| aarents | Hi nova | 07:50 |
| aarents | bauzas: can we flag this abondonned: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/include-swap-memory i'm not sure I can do it myself | 07:51 |
| bauzas | aarents: ack, looking | 07:51 |
| bauzas | aarents: I can't either | 07:52 |
| bauzas | it's a blueprint | 07:52 |
| bauzas | just leave a comment | 07:52 |
| aarents | k | 07:53 |
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| kashyap | xiaolin: Hi | 08:35 |
| kashyap | xiaolin: I don't think anyone ever tested Nova with MIPS arch, nor is it officially supported. I'm surprised you've got this far. For the UEFI bits - need to dig more | 08:35 |
| kashyap | xiaolin: Does your patch to libvirt/driver.py fix it? Are you able to boot an instance? | 08:36 |
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| xiaolin | kashyap: Yes, it fixed, I can boot an instance. | 08:41 |
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| gibi | xiaolin: please file bug an publish the patch connected to that bug if possible | 08:49 |
| xiaolin | Many people around me use hosts with MIPS architecture. I hope the official can add support for MIPS and We can maintain it. Is there a plan? | 08:49 |
| kashyap | xiaolin: Yeah, please do file a bug | 08:51 |
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| CeeMac | melwitt: So i did some experimenting with the nova os-simple-tenant-usage api and this pulls back pretty much the exact same usage information as horizon project usage | 08:53 |
| CeeMac | so, sadly, it looks like regardless of if an instance is shelved or not, it still consumes resources :( | 08:53 |
| kashyap | xiaolin: Hmm, for MIPS, the issue is maintainers that will stick around and address the issues :-) | 08:53 |
| kashyap | xiaolin: It's easy to "add initial support" (and let it rot) :-( | 08:54 |
| kashyap | xiaolin: But go ahead and file a bug as gibi suggests, and attach your patch as a comment | 08:54 |
| CeeMac | melwitt: I also don't see any image/snapshot for the shelved instance, should that be visible? | 08:57 |
| CeeMac | s/shelved/shelved_offloaded | 08:58 |
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| xiaolin | gibi: kashyap: Thanks for the help. We will stick, as our company produce machines with MIPS architecture, and we believe our company will not go bankrupt :-) | 09:00 |
| aarents | gibi Thanks for this bug confirmation https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1881881 | 09:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1881881 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova api return HTTP 500 error when interface attach failed due to lack of instance PCI slots" [Undecided,New] | 09:03 |
| aarents | gibi So according the thread you're reffering, we can extend the number of pluggable interface by adding pci-bridge, is nova able to do it now? or should we implement something like hw:pci-bridge=2 in order to ask libvirt to add 2 pci-brigde when defining instance. | 09:03 |
| kashyap | xiaolin: :-) Would also be nice to start a discussion on 'openstack-discuss' list -- do you mind starting a thread? | 09:05 |
| kashyap | xiaolin: Put a subject like "[nova][libvirt] Support for MIPS architecture?" or something like that | 09:05 |
| xiaolin | kashyap: It would be nice, but I don`t know how to start a discussion temporarily | 09:13 |
| kashyap | xiaolin: I'm on a call; but it's a mailing list | 09:13 |
| kashyap | I'll link you shortly, unless someone beats me to it | 09:14 |
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| frickler | xiaolin: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-discuss , just send a mail with the subject above. you may want to subscribe before to avoid your mail being held in moderation | 09:25 |
| gibi | aarents: I don't think nova can add pci-bridges today. If the limit can be avoided by the q35 machine type then I would take that direction instead | 09:26 |
| bauzas | I do agree with gibi | 09:28 |
| bauzas | the 'pc' machine type is old | 09:28 |
| bauzas | very old, even | 09:28 |
| bauzas | and we shouldn't modify nova because of it | 09:28 |
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| xiaolin | frickler: Thanks, I got it :-) | 09:33 |
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| aarents | bauzas: gibi oh by simply switch from pc to q35 increase slot availiable? I was thinking we need to 'declare' add some pci-bridge device into root-brigde before have benefit of mode slots, maybe libvirt do it magicly will do some test | 09:38 |
| bauzas | aarents: try with this machine type | 09:39 |
| aarents | yep | 09:39 |
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| slaweq | gibi: hi | 09:55 |
| gibi | slaweq: hi! | 09:56 |
| slaweq | gibi: do You want to meet today in Nova or Neutron's room? | 09:56 |
| gibi | slaweq: let's use the nova room. some of the folks had problem with jitsi so we are using zoom | 09:56 |
| slaweq | gibi: works for me | 09:56 |
| slaweq | ok | 09:56 |
| gibi | cool, thanks | 09:56 |
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| kashyap | frickler: Thanks! :) | 10:23 |
| stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: Look what I just found https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/host.py#L1104-L1105 | 10:25 |
| stephenfin | https://stackoverflow.com/a/10429736 | 10:25 |
| stephenfin | \o/ | 10:25 |
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| sean-k-mooney | wait what does that even do | 11:42 |
| sean-k-mooney | do we return 0 on kernel 4.x and 5.x? | 11:43 |
| sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: i assume we are just going to nuke that code from orbit and pretend it was never there | 11:44 |
| sean-k-mooney | oh its based on the linux kernel version used to build the python package | 11:46 |
| sean-k-mooney | that even worse | 11:46 |
| gibi | bauzas: left feedback on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/733703 | 11:48 |
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| sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: i guess we technically could do sys.platform.startswith('linux') but since we only support linux for the libvirt dirver we should just remove that code. good find | 11:52 |
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| bauzas | gibi: ack, thanks | 12:26 |
| gibi | thanks for starting the spec | 12:26 |
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| gibi | nova PTG will continue in less than 30 minutes in the Juno Zoom room with neutron-nova cross project session first and the with cyborg topics | 12:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Correct reported system memory https://review.opendev.org/733827 | 12:58 |
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| bauzas | man, a cross-project session on a Friday late afternoon and discussing about placement workflows, what did I made wrong to have such punishment ? :) | 14:14 |
| * bauzas just kidding but his attention honestly sunsetted | 14:14 | |
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| dansmith | heh | 14:24 |
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| gibi | bauzas: I'm sorry. I owe you a free beer next time we have a face to face PTG | 14:27 |
| bauzas | nah, I have a beer machine at home, I can fix this issue | 14:27 |
| gibi | then we should have the next PTG at your place :D | 14:27 |
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| gibi | and then free beer for everybody | 14:28 |
| dansmith | bauzas: I was going to ask if your wife realizes that you're broadcasting her jamming out on her earphones to the world.. | 14:29 |
| bauzas | you did hear her ? | 14:29 |
| bauzas | well, it's encrypted | 14:29 |
| dansmith | no, but we see her | 14:30 |
| bauzas | we call this specific encryption 'French' | 14:30 |
| dansmith | hah | 14:30 |
| bauzas | this way, we're sure nobody can understand us | 14:30 |
| gibi | :) | 14:30 |
| dansmith | hmm, that was some encryption we just heard | 14:31 |
| dansmith | my ciphertext analysis leads to a general message of "No, get out of here, I'm on a call!" | 14:31 |
| bauzas | LOL, yeah, our door doesn't lock unfortunately | 14:33 |
| * bauzas was considering a Ring doorbell FTW | 14:33 | |
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| sean-k-mooney | also sorry to monoplise the cross project so much | 15:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sorry I missed you all for today, I was in keystone land, and got stuck there | 15:21 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: thank you for providing input for all these discussions. | 15:22 |
| sean-k-mooney | my brain is slightly hurting after it all | 15:22 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: no worries I think we had proper nova representation on the session | 15:23 |
| TheJulia | random question, are there any thoughts regarding letting a compute driver throttling such that we don't have timeout failures ? Thinking once in a blue moon someone trying to create a 1000 physical machine deployments in ironic and they just want to batch them all up at once. | 15:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: all good :) | 15:23 |
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| sean-k-mooney | TheJulia: there is a config option you can set that kind of does that | 15:24 |
| sean-k-mooney | TheJulia: not sure if it works with ironic | 15:25 |
| TheJulia | oh? | 15:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#DEFAULT.max_concurrent_builds | 15:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | max concurent builds | 15:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | its a compute agent config | 15:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | until recent releases, the scheduler used to fall over first though, in theory better now, but hope to be testing that more soon | 15:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | so you could set that per ironic conpute service | 15:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | johnthetubaguy: multi create still sucks | 15:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | johnthetubaguy: it has less races with plamcnet | 15:26 |
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| sean-k-mooney | but unless we change how retires work anti affingity server groups break things | 15:27 |
| TheJulia | sean-k-mooney: I feel like it works, but I'm wondering if someone has that set to like 100... | 15:27 |
| TheJulia | I guess I need more information | 15:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | TheJulia: in the ironic case there is going to be one hell of a power spike too | 15:28 |
| sean-k-mooney | 1000 servers booting at once | 15:28 |
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| TheJulia | sean-k-mooney: some people have the power for this | 15:29 |
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| sean-k-mooney | TheJulia: yep but i once rebooted half the server on a rack and triped its local breaker | 15:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | that was fun... | 15:33 |
| TheJulia | yeaaaah | 15:33 |
| TheJulia | Been there, I really overengineered power for every rack I built | 15:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | that was when we discover the electian that install it connected it to the wrong ups and it was signifcaly more over subsribed then the lab team tought | 15:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | the 3 new rack were all on the old ups not the new one in the room next door | 15:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | as a result i was not allowed to power them back on until we got someone in to swap them | 15:35 |
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| TheJulia | I'm suddenly reminded of the one time I literally burned out a breaker | 16:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sean-k-mooney: yeah, anti affinity totally breaks things still, +1 that | 16:08 |
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| sean-k-mooney | its because we calusate the alternitive host up front so once one thing files and retire it can cause another thing to fail | 16:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | it gets worse with PCI passthrough | 16:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | or seems to | 16:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | so unless we call the sculder again instead when we do the retry your screwed | 16:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | johnthetubaguy: yes it will | 16:10 |
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| sean-k-mooney | johnthetubaguy: that just because we dont track the pci device in placment so when we claim the new candiate we dont calim the pci device and that can cause a reschdule | 16:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | ack | 16:11 |
| sean-k-mooney | johnthetubaguy: we dont need placement to fix that we could allocate the deivce in the conductor be we dont today | 16:11 |
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| sean-k-mooney | the pci devices table has 3 states available allocated and claimed i think and the difference between the last too is one is a reservation for a vm that has not yet been created on the host and the other is for when the vm is actully using it | 16:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh my... custom resources using the provider yaml totally helps with those races, I think | 16:12 |
| sean-k-mooney | it could | 16:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | but we have no way to associate the RPs with the pci devcices | 16:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | so its close but wont work | 16:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | at least not today | 16:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | because we pick the specific one too early? | 16:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | no we pick the specific on on the compute node but that code has no knolage of placment | 16:14 |
| sean-k-mooney | so it would not pick form the device claimed in palcment | 16:14 |
| sean-k-mooney | it would pick form all devices on the host | 16:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, I think it fixes a case I am worried about, but we haven't merged that feature (must review that again soon) | 16:15 |
| sean-k-mooney | it will fix it for anything that is not manage by nova direclty | 16:17 |
| sean-k-mooney | like cache allocation | 16:17 |
| sean-k-mooney | or power/termal based scudling | 16:17 |
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