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| openstackgerrit | Brin Zhang proposed openstack/nova master: Filter migrations by user_id/project_id https://review.opendev.org/674243 | 02:12 |
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| LiangFang | hi, could anybody share how to add agenda for next weekly meeting? Is there any etherpad link? thanks | 02:51 |
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| gibi | LiangFang: add your item to the agend be editing the wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 05:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhurong proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] add cyborg tempest job https://review.opendev.org/670999 | 06:27 |
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| kashyap | ozzzo: Hi, just saw a few mentions in the scrollback; /me goes to look for the salient bits | 08:13 |
| kashyap | ozzzo: Okay, saw your question: if you're using (a) 'host-passthrough'; and (b) mismatched microcode b/n Compute nodes, then no, you will _not_ be able migrate an instance across the said nodes. | 08:14 |
| kashyap | ozzzo: In my talk, I did mention the impact of microcode on live migration, when using 'host-passthrough': | 08:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Functional reproduction for bug 1845291 https://review.opendev.org/684545 | 08:17 |
| openstack | bug 1845291 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "migration is not recheduled if the server originally booted with --availability-zone <az>:<host>" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845291 - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer) | 08:17 |
| kashyap | ozzzo: efried: See slide-18: https://kashyapc.fedorapeople.org/Effective-Virtual-CPU-Configuration-in-Nova-Berlin2018.pdf | 08:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Reset forced_destination before migration at a proper time https://review.opendev.org/684546 | 08:17 |
| kashyap | ozzzo: To quote at note at the end of slide-18 (which talks about 'host-passthrough': "Along with identical CPUs, identical kernel and microcode are a must for VM live migration!" | 08:18 |
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| kashyap | ozzzo: I'd also toss in, "identical BIOS settings" b/n the two COmpute nodes, too. | 08:20 |
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| victor286 | hello,so many people! | 09:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivaylo Mitev proposed openstack/nova master: Fix incorrect usages of fake moref in VMware tests https://review.opendev.org/685020 | 09:55 |
| kashyap | ozzzo: Also responded on e-mail | 09:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivaylo Mitev proposed openstack/nova master: Fix incorrect usages of fake moref in VMware tests https://review.opendev.org/685020 | 10:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: doc: attaching virtual persistent memory to guests https://review.opendev.org/680300 | 11:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Add a prelude for the Train release https://review.opendev.org/683327 | 11:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] add cyborg tempest job https://review.opendev.org/670999 | 11:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Functional reproduction for bug 1845291 https://review.opendev.org/684545 | 11:46 |
| openstack | bug 1845291 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "migration is not recheduled if the server originally booted with --availability-zone <az>:<host>" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845291 - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer) | 11:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Reset forced_destination before migration at a proper time https://review.opendev.org/684546 | 11:46 |
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| mriedem | efried: we might want to consider https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1845243 as train-rc-potential for rc2 since the regression was introduced in train, it was also backported and released on stein and rocy | 13:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1845243 in OpenStack Compute (nova) stein "Nested 'path' query param in console URL breaks serialproxy" [High,Confirmed] | 13:12 |
| mriedem | *rocky | 13:12 |
| mriedem | so i think we have 2 potential bugs for rc2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=train-rc-potential but i think we could still release rc1 today | 13:13 |
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| mriedem | i've updated the rc1 release patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684086/ | 13:16 |
| mriedem | yaawang: were you able to test this fix for the numa live migration bug you reported? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684409/ | 13:17 |
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| kashyap | sean-k-mooney: efried This was my answer to ozzzo, in an "FAQ form" :D - https://kashyapc.fedorapeople.org/CPU-microcode-host-passthrough-and-live-migration.txt | 13:28 |
| kashyap | mriedem: ^ (But you might already know that answer.) | 13:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/stein: Ignore sqla-migrate inspect.getargspec deprecation warnings on py36 https://review.opendev.org/685072 | 13:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional recreate test for bug 1841481 https://review.opendev.org/684840 | 13:39 |
| openstack | bug 1841481 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Race during ironic re-balance corrupts local RT ProviderTree and compute_nodes cache" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1841481 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 13:39 |
| mriedem | kashyap: lgtm, i remember you talking about microcode in your presentation | 13:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Clear RT.compute_nodes entry if re-balance update fails https://review.opendev.org/684849 | 13:39 |
| mriedem | if a FAQs style thing is useful for that docs page i'm fine with adding one | 13:39 |
| mriedem | we recently did that for the bdms docs | 13:39 |
| mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/block-device-mapping.html#faqs | 13:40 |
| kashyap | Ah, interesting | 13:41 |
| kashyap | mriedem: Yeah, I could actually add some more - expand it to cover the other two modes | 13:41 |
| kashyap | Because, this is going to become a question for more and more | 13:41 |
| kashyap | As they slowly realize and start upgrading microcodes ... | 13:41 |
| kashyap | ... "hey, live migration is broken, what now? :D" | 13:42 |
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| * kashyap makes a note to add it; once he gets this out: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684375/2 | 13:44 | |
| kashyap | mriedem: A quick q. on above -- since we're so close up to GA, is changing such defaults frowned upon? (Have a gander at the commit message / release note) | 13:45 |
| efried | mriedem: ack, are we waiting on anything else to cut rc1 today? | 13:45 |
| kashyap | In short: it's a legit issue, also fixed in the kernel. But relaxing the 'strict' default in Nova will definitely avoid surprises like: https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/7/24/152 ("VM boot failure on nodes not having DMA32 zone") | 13:47 |
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| mriedem | kashyap: i can't really speak to that change but yeah that's pretty non-trivial for the day of RC1 | 13:50 |
| mriedem | efried: i don't think so | 13:50 |
| efried | ight, I'll go (update and) ack the release patch I guess. | 13:51 |
| mriedem | kashyap: also, "fixed in the kernel" might be something for rhosp but could be years for someone using suse or canonical openstack to pick up i'd think | 13:51 |
| mriedem | efried: i already did | 13:51 |
| mriedem | update htat is | 13:51 |
| mriedem | just needs an ack | 13:51 |
| efried | coo | 13:51 |
| efried | done | 13:52 |
| kashyap | mriedem: I'm not one of those who think "downstream first" ;-) When I say "fixed in the kernel" - it's in 4.19, and many of those said distros will backport it | 13:52 |
| kashyap | It's a super small, isloated change | 13:52 |
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| kashyap | mriedem: Okay, ACK - for the RC1. But FWIW, the change is quite _safe_ and self-contained: and makes Nova instances work in more NUMA setups | 13:54 |
| efried | kashyap: If you wanted to be super safe, you could make a [workaround] conf opt, defaulting to "prefer", to allow consumers to revert to "strict" if they want. | 13:55 |
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| efried | deprecate it immediately (assuming we don't want to continue to allow it) and remove it in U. | 13:56 |
| kashyap | (Also, to preempt a thought: no, it's not "urgent for RHOS". I just think since Train also has NUMA-aware live migration; this change only helps. I did a crap load background reading on this, to understand the issue) | 13:56 |
| kashyap | efried: Ah, good point on 'workarounds' | 13:56 |
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| kashyap | I'll mull on it today; stephenfin - might want to have a look at the above, it's in your wheelhouse - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684375/ ("libvirt: Use the `preferred` memory allocation mode for NUMA | 13:57 |
| kashyap | ") | 13:58 |
| kashyap | efried: Thanks for the input. | 13:58 |
| efried | yahyoubetcha | 13:58 |
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| efried | kashyap: in any case I would think you would want a nova lp bug for that guy. | 13:58 |
| efried | (if that hasn't already been said) | 13:59 |
| kashyap | efried: Yes, yes. Already said; will be filing | 13:59 |
| mriedem | +1 on the workarounds idea, | 13:59 |
| kashyap | I have a v2 sitting; and I wrote a long explanatory comment on _why_ we're doing that change | 13:59 |
| mriedem | that also allows people to opt out if they dont' have the kernel fix | 13:59 |
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| dansmith | efried: kashyap: I know we've strayed a bit, but I always wanted the workarounds to be booleans that all default to False, opting into different behavior, not multi-value tunables | 14:07 |
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| dansmith | efried: kashyap: so enable_old_memory_somethingorother=True if they need the old behavior or whatever it is | 14:08 |
| dansmith | setting some regular-looking conf tunable to some value is less like a workaround and more like ... config | 14:08 |
| efried | Yeah, I'm not totally convinced this should be a [workaround] in the first place -- perhaps it should be an actual conf opt. | 14:09 |
| dansmith | if it's actually a conf thing (setting to some value) then not a workaround, IMHO | 14:10 |
| dansmith | but if it's "I don't have a modified kernel to fix X" then that can be true/false | 14:10 |
| efried | Either way, the opt is for someone who understands the issue, and (IMO) it's an unnecessary extra step making them understand how True/False maps to "prefer"/"strict". But meh, not going to put in my mouthguard for this one. | 14:11 |
| efried | I don't understand enough about the issue to know whether there's a chance this will need to be worked around at all / some nontrivial percentage of the time or for how long. | 14:11 |
| dansmith | sounds like it's config and not really a workaround then, which is fine | 14:11 |
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| bauzas | gibi: /me scratches his head when he sees a lot of good helper methods https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/integrated_helpers.py#L582 and the likes | 14:14 |
| bauzas | gibi: I'll passing a new revision today or tomorrow for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670112 but please tell me whether we could use the above $ | 14:15 |
| bauzas | ^ | 14:15 |
| kashyap | dansmith: Hiya, just back. Reading your / Eric's remarks | 14:31 |
| kashyap | dansmith: Yeah, I agree with your intention on a workaroud being: "a bool that makes it possible to opt-in to behaviour X". | 14:32 |
| kashyap | efried: And yes, I'm still not convinced either to have a workaroud yet; however, making _everything_ configurable is not desirable either. "Death by a thousand config cuts" | 14:33 |
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| gibi | bauzas: I think you can use assertRequestMatchesUsage and the rest of the helpers. There are some limitations documented there about the structure though | 14:36 |
| kashyap | efried: On the issue, the tl;dr is: today, if you boot a Nova instance on a NUMA host without a "DMA32" zone (one of the zones into which the kernel divides the memory) on the NUMA node, then your instance hard-fails to boot. | 14:36 |
| kashyap | (And you can detect this "DMA32" thing by running `grep DMA /proc/zoneinfo` on the host.) | 14:36 |
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| kashyap | efried: And no, please remove that mouthguard - you _do_ make a good point: for someone to understand the mapping of bool to 'preferred'/'strict', it's needless gory details | 14:37 |
| kashyap | I'll mull on it more and comment on the change. | 14:38 |
| kashyap | Thanks for the input, both. | 14:38 |
| * kashyap wonders how many workarounds today are multi-value "convenience" options and less of True/False booleans | 14:39 | |
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| mriedem | oh donnyd donnyd donnyd | 14:42 |
| mriedem | you've opened a can of worms | 14:42 |
| donnyd | Is it a good or bad can? | 14:42 |
| donnyd | like fresh worms or worms that have been sitting in the sun for 3 weeks | 14:42 |
| mriedem | moldy worms | 14:44 |
| mriedem | i, of course, can't help but take that bait | 14:44 |
| donnyd | LOL | 14:44 |
| donnyd | Well they are just observations.. not saying anything is right, wrong.. indifferent.. | 14:45 |
| mriedem | it's fun to see how the sausage gets made though huh | 14:46 |
| donnyd | its quite interesting from my perspective - i have been building these things for quite a long time | 14:47 |
| mriedem | fwiw every closed source project i worked on before openstack was also a clusterf*ck | 14:47 |
| mriedem | come release time anyway | 14:47 |
| donnyd | openstack isn't a charlie foxtrot. | 14:47 |
| donnyd | I don't think that is the case at all... | 14:47 |
| mriedem | the thing i mostly enjoy is the foundation marketing that says "20 release ON TIME" | 14:48 |
| mriedem | *releases | 14:48 |
| donnyd | I just think humans have a tendency to delay until they cannot anymore | 14:48 |
| mriedem | yup, i noted that in my reply | 14:48 |
| mriedem | and that's our MO here as well | 14:48 |
| mriedem | and the squeeky wheel gets the grease... | 14:49 |
| donnyd | that is a true story in literally all things | 14:49 |
| mriedem | i've left some squeeky hinges in my house go ungreased out of spite | 14:51 |
| donnyd | I also think nobody consumes the milestones because they are perceived to be "beta" | 14:51 |
| mriedem | "gdi i *just* greased you" | 14:51 |
| donnyd | and maybe changing around the perception would increase the consumption | 14:52 |
| mriedem | at this point in the game i don't think that's likely | 14:52 |
| mriedem | if anything, | 14:52 |
| mriedem | people have wanted to consume at a much slower pace as time as gone on | 14:52 |
| mriedem | hence all the demands for LTS branches and stuff | 14:53 |
| donnyd | hence the 9 month major cycle | 14:53 |
| donnyd | or even 12 month | 14:53 |
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| mriedem | blech | 14:53 |
| mriedem | we'll just wait until the last minute to cram even less stuff in :) | 14:53 |
| mriedem | and, | 14:53 |
| mriedem | it will be double the shit that someone has to consumer and grok from the release notes when they do | 14:54 |
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| mriedem | *consume | 14:54 |
| donnyd | how is that different from say an ubuntu or centos release though? | 14:54 |
| donnyd | centos/rhel | 14:55 |
| donnyd | Also thank you for replying | 14:56 |
| mriedem | i can't say how those distro dev cycles are different, | 14:56 |
| mriedem | but i imagine there much more strictly controlled | 14:56 |
| mriedem | *they're | 14:56 |
| mriedem | and when rhel i'm paying a support license so i expect more rigor before the thing is released than just "here it is, here are the release notes, have fun" | 14:57 |
| mriedem | *with rhel | 14:57 |
| mriedem | man i can't type today | 14:57 |
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| * kashyap makes a pedantic nit: s/license/subscription/ - it matters because: a license is (usually?) for a single release; RHEL sub gets your _future_ releases, too | 14:58 | |
| mriedem | i'm also not sure how moving from 6 to 12 months cycles would go over with someone like vexxhost that does actually do proper CI/CD and doesn't wait 18 months before upgrading | 14:58 |
| * kashyap reads the full scrollback, before he opens mouth further | 14:58 | |
| mriedem | kashyap: sure, whatever - "pay for play" | 14:58 |
| kashyap | I need to first load up on the topic being discussed. (I've got the -discuss list open, with Donny's email) | 14:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/stein: Handle legacy request spec dict in ComputeTaskManager._cold_migrate https://review.opendev.org/684407 | 15:00 |
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| kashyap | donnyd: That's indeed a barrel of worms; it was discussed to nauseating levels. See this epic thread from 2015: | 15:01 |
| kashyap | donnyd: "Re-evaluating the suitability of the 6 month release cycle" -- https://openstack.nimeyo.com/34284/openstack-dev-evaluating-suitability-month-release-cycle | 15:02 |
| kashyap | donnyd: Before you click that, go fill up your giant mug of tea, I say. | 15:02 |
| donnyd | mriedem: but vexxhost could surely make use of more often . releases | 15:02 |
| kashyap | It's a long and worthwhile read. (Especially "looking back") | 15:02 |
| donnyd | well to be fair... that was 4 years ago | 15:03 |
| kashyap | donnyd: To get the tl;dr of suggestion, see "The modest proposal" | 15:03 |
| kashyap | [quote] | 15:03 |
| kashyap | Based on these observations I would suggest that OpenStack aim to | 15:03 |
| kashyap | switch to a development cycle that is exactly 2 months long. | 15:03 |
| kashyap | ie do 6 releases a year. | 15:03 |
| kashyap | This will have a number of consequences which I'd expect to be | 15:03 |
| kashyap | beneficial to the project on balance. | 15:03 |
| kashyap | [/quote] | 15:03 |
| kashyap | donnyd: 4 years ago, but many things wrote there apply perfectly well today. | 15:04 |
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| donnyd | but 4 years ago our community was probably 2x the size it is now wasn't it? (i wasn't here, so i can't actually quantify that) | 15:06 |
| mriedem | lyarwood: we have a few open stable/stein changes that we could get in before the next release but i think the biggest ticket one ends at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684407/ since that resolves an upgrade issue introduced in stien | 15:06 |
| mriedem | dansmith: ^ | 15:06 |
| mriedem | donnyd: yes much bigger and much more diverse | 15:07 |
| kashyap | donnyd: It _was_ larger; but shortening the cycle length applies even today. | 15:07 |
| kashyap | donnyd: It reduces the: "hey, our distro is gonna be based on X upstream release, we _must_ shove our feature upstream in time!" | 15:07 |
| kashyap | s/distro/"long-term OpenStack distro"/ | 15:07 |
| kashyap | (Among other things) | 15:07 |
| donnyd | for the record.. I am happy either way | 15:08 |
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| kashyap | donnyd: Nod; but yes, as both of you said, it's the "human nature" element. And "planning is guessing". Go a "six-month plan"? Call it a "six-month guess". | 15:13 |
| kashyap | (https://m.signalvnoise.com/planning-is-guessing/) | 15:13 |
| donnyd | right... "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" | 15:14 |
| donnyd | - mike tyson | 15:14 |
| donnyd | so wouldn't the message there be create smaller plans?? | 15:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: WIP: Avoid redundant initialize_connection on source post live migration https://review.opendev.org/683008 | 15:16 |
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| mriedem | donnyd: i think that's efried's plan for ussuri | 15:17 |
| mriedem | i.e. only approve blueprints for things that were previously approved and not yet complete | 15:17 |
| kashyap | donnyd: Yeah, smaller plans are fine - focus more on the unsexy, "boring" stability (don't-fall-apart-if-you-sneeze) and less of "features" | 15:18 |
| kashyap | s/fine/preferred/ (ha, see what I did there :D) | 15:18 |
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| kashyap | donnyd: Fun fact I just learnt: Tyson actually _lost_ that match, after that quote (which he targeted at his oponnent, when a journalist asked "if you're worried about his plan") :D | 15:21 |
| donnyd | Well the cycle time would just be broken up differently.. I wouldn't think the major release cycle time would be able to be shortened... if anything lengthened .... So the idea is kinda like slow train fast train | 15:22 |
| kashyap | (So the plan _did_ work :D) | 15:22 |
| donnyd | kashyap: LOL | 15:22 |
| kashyap | donnyd: So, yeah, moral: "punchy quotes don't cook rice [or sustain punches / win matches]" | 15:23 |
| donnyd | So if someone wanted to ride the fast train, they would just use the minor release cycle and those who want that "LTSish" release could just use majors | 15:23 |
| donnyd | I am still reading the thread from 2015 | 15:25 |
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| efried | gibi: you still around? | 15:38 |
| gibi | efried: yes | 15:38 |
| efried | gibi: would you mind injecting some more description into the commit message and test comments/docstring for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684545/ ? | 15:39 |
| efried | As it is I have to go read the bug report to understand what's going on. | 15:39 |
| gibi | efried: you mean describe the bug a bit more in the commit message and the docstring? | 15:40 |
| efried | Yeah. Actually the commit message is probably fine; I just misread it. But in the test case, an up-front docstring/comment describing what we're testing for would be nice. | 15:41 |
| gibi | efried: sure | 15:41 |
| efried | you could do it in a fup if you prefer, I can send both of these. | 15:41 |
| gibi | efried: let me add that info quickly to the func reproduce patch | 15:42 |
| gibi | before I leave | 15:42 |
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| efried | gibi: is there a typo in the test name? (just posted comments) | 15:45 |
| dansmith | mriedem: on this: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684407/3 | 15:46 |
| dansmith | mriedem: is that really necessary for stein, which should all be sending a later compute rpc version | 15:46 |
| dansmith | ? | 15:46 |
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| dansmith | okay, so there's some conductor interplay there, I guess, but.. the point in backporting to stein is for what, to make stein better handle upgrade scenarios when running split rocky/stein ? | 15:47 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure what you mean. | 15:47 |
| mriedem | yes | 15:47 |
| mriedem | if you're computes are pinned to rocky it's a failure | 15:47 |
| mriedem | *your | 15:47 |
| mriedem | on resize/cold migrate reschedule i mean | 15:48 |
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| mriedem | compute will pass a request spec legacy dict back up to conductor which won't handle it as a dict and blow up trying to set the flavor attribute | 15:48 |
| gibi | efried: ack | 15:49 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: but case #2 in your commit message wouldn't affect rocky/stein because it requires pinning to 5.0 which is older than even rocky, right? | 15:49 |
| dansmith | I mean, it could if people had their rpcs pinned to pike, but in reality, that's probably not a likely case | 15:50 |
| mriedem | no, | 15:54 |
| mriedem | 5.0 is rocky | 15:54 |
| mriedem | 5.1 was i think the only compute rpc api bump in stein | 15:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Functional reproduction for bug 1845291 https://review.opendev.org/684545 | 15:54 |
| openstack | bug 1845291 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "migration is not recheduled if the server originally booted with --availability-zone <az>:<host>" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845291 - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer) | 15:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Reset forced_destination before migration at a proper time https://review.opendev.org/684546 | 15:54 |
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| mriedem | https://opendev.org/openstack/nova/src/tag/19.0.0/nova/compute/rpcapi.py#L365 | 15:54 |
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| gibi | efried: respun https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684545 | 15:55 |
| efried | ... | 15:55 |
| mriedem | if conductor is pinned less than 1.13, conductor's compute task manager won't even get a request spec | 15:55 |
| dansmith | mriedem: oh, you're right, I read the "Version 5.0 is .... Pike compat" in the comment | 15:55 |
| dansmith | yeah, but conductor pinning isn't really a useful thing | 15:55 |
| dansmith | which is why you say "technically.." I think | 15:55 |
| mriedem | and because it's so f'ing old | 15:55 |
| dansmith | but fair enough, I just had it in my head that 5.0 was much older, but I since we didn't bump for any reason in rocky, that makes sense now | 15:56 |
| efried | gibi: would it be accurate to say "Ensure that re-schedule is possible on migration even if the server is originally booted with forced host." | 15:56 |
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| mriedem | efried: gibi: remember i did use call_count recently for something like https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684545/3/nova/tests/functional/regressions/test_bug_1845291.py@40 and it was a big hullabaloo | 15:57 |
| mriedem | artom got all stinky about it | 15:57 |
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| gibi | efried:yes, your sentence sounds better than mine | 15:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Functional reproduction for bug 1845291 https://review.opendev.org/684545 | 15:58 |
| openstack | bug 1845291 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "migration is not recheduled if the server originally booted with --availability-zone <az>:<host>" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845291 - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer) | 15:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Reset forced_destination before migration at a proper time https://review.opendev.org/684546 | 15:59 |
| efried | gibi: okay, tweaked a little bit and approved. Thanks. | 15:59 |
| * efried ==> meeting | 15:59 | |
| gibi | efried: thanks | 15:59 |
| gibi | mriedem: sorry I did not remember. How did you managed to do a conditional in the fake based on the call count? | 16:00 |
| mriedem | i'm trying to find it | 16:00 |
| mriedem | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682140/1/nova/tests/functional/test_servers.py@6817 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Amend "Configure max number of volumes to attach" spec https://review.opendev.org/682136 | 16:03 |
| gibi | mriedem: thanks. now I remember. it is ugly scoping in any case | 16:04 |
| mriedem | hey, | 16:04 |
| mriedem | one man's trash is another man's treasure | 16:04 |
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| gibi | mriedem: to be correct I don't like either of the solutions due to the scoping trick. nothing personal :) | 16:06 |
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| qqmber | Hi.. I'm usong Rocky and for the first time I didn't assign a floating IP to an instance... I enter thru another instance (that has floating IP). When I run "yum upgrade" it takes forever and I see a lot of hangs and timeouts... could be related to not having a floating IP assigned? (even I see it has a floating IP anyways) | 16:07 |
| qqmber | I see stuff like this: Sep 26 16:04:43 es-3 dbus[579]: [system] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.systemd1': timed out | 16:08 |
| * gibi is wondering what mriedem's list means | 16:10 | |
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| donnyd | floating ips are at the most basic just an inbound NAT done at the network node. Outbound traffic should follow the same flow with or without a floating ip | 16:10 |
| donnyd | I would also ask in neutron | 16:11 |
| donnyd | qqmber: also i would be looking at a dns issue | 16:12 |
| donnyd | try something like ping -4 google.com and then ping -4 172.217.13.238 | 16:13 |
| donnyd | if the second command has no issue or delay... you have a dns problem | 16:13 |
| donnyd | likely i should say | 16:13 |
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| qqmber | donnyd: I'm running the same (yum upgrade) on two instances.. both in the same host.. one with floating IP, one without.. the one without floating IP has the hanging problem... weird... | 16:14 |
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| mriedem | not really a nova development question either way | 16:17 |
| donnyd | qqmber: maybe the neutron channel would have more info on ways to t/s | 16:17 |
| donnyd | or openstack-operators | 16:17 |
| qqmber | ok, thanks! | 16:18 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: fyi I'm looking into https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1845243 | 17:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1845243 in OpenStack Compute (nova) stein "Nested 'path' query param in console URL breaks serialproxy" [High,Confirmed] | 17:49 |
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| mriedem | ack, cool | 17:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dustin Cowles proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Spec: Use OpenStack SDK in Nova (Ussuri) https://review.opendev.org/685154 | 19:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Spec: Use OpenStack SDK in Nova (Ussuri) https://review.opendev.org/685154 | 20:49 |
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| efried | mriedem: wanna update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-train-release-todo to track RC2 candidates? | 20:50 |
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| mriedem | meaning? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=train-rc-potential | 20:51 |
| efried | maybe just s/RC1/RC2/ on L13, but I dunno, swhy I'm asking | 20:53 |
| mriedem | i'll let you drive | 20:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Migrate old style volume attachments on nova-compute startup https://review.opendev.org/549130 | 21:34 |
| melwitt | mriedem: commented on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1845243 and would like a sanity check on the fix approach. dansmith too since he was involved in the discussion of the original change. cc efried | 21:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1845243 in OpenStack Compute (nova) stein "Nested 'path' query param in console URL breaks serialproxy" [High,Confirmed] | 21:37 |
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| mriedem | commented | 21:41 |
| melwitt | mriedem: thanks. I think it will be simple. kicking myself for not realizing the 'path' thing was novnc specialness | 21:43 |
| melwitt | consoles: 2 me: 0 | 21:43 |
| mriedem | i wouldn't feel too bad about it | 21:43 |
| mriedem | we have no integratoin testing for ironic serial consoles so... | 21:44 |
| mriedem | things are going to break | 21:44 |
| melwitt | yeah. just having a dagnabbit moment | 21:44 |
| melwitt | I wonder if it might be cleanest to do a full revert and then follow with a replacement change. I'll try that first | 21:45 |
| melwitt | because the original change was a bunch of every console type's url changing. is just noise once it gets fixed | 21:46 |
| mriedem | yeah maybe | 21:51 |
| mriedem | do you know how to / have the setup for testing the ironic serial console thing to see if it's fixed? | 21:51 |
| melwitt | unfortunately no. I think any other console type would break too (like spice). so I guess that implies we don't have tempest tests for those either? I'll do some looking around to see how we can verify noVNC + other consoles | 21:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Repro bug 1845530: versioned discovery is authed https://review.opendev.org/685180 | 21:53 |
| openstack | bug 1845530 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Versioned discovery endpoint should not require authentication" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845530 | 21:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Allow versioned discovery unauthenticated https://review.opendev.org/685181 | 21:53 |
| efried | cdent: Help! ^ | 21:53 |
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| artom | mriedem, actually, for that NUMA bug, I can probably reproduce in a regression func test (re: meeting ping) | 22:33 |
| artom | I've been rebasing and splitting into smaller patches the main NUMA func test patch, it's taking forever because it's a PITA and I'm procrastinating | 22:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Functional reproduction for bug 1845291 https://review.opendev.org/684545 | 23:31 |
| openstack | bug 1845291 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "migration is not recheduled if the server originally booted with --availability-zone <az>:<host>" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845291 - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer) | 23:31 |
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