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| openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Create and bind Cyborg ARQs. https://review.openstack.org/631244 | 07:42 |
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| kashyap | gibi: Morning, are others seeing these timeouts too? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/630980/ | 09:02 |
| kashyap | It's been like that for more than 10 days | 09:02 |
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| jangutter | kashyap: you can get a quick "feel" by checking http://zuul.openstack.org/builds?job_name=tempest-full&pipeline=gate and there does indeed seem to be a few hits. | 09:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Fix a missing policy in test policy data https://review.openstack.org/633686 | 09:30 |
| kashyap | jangutter: Hi, a few hits of what? | 09:30 |
| * kashyap clicks | 09:31 | |
| jangutter | kashyap: TIMED_OUT on tempest-full builds on the gate. Obviously this is highly unscientific, but a quick way to check. | 09:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Fix a missing policy in test policy data https://review.openstack.org/633686 | 09:37 |
| jangutter | kashyap: oh wow, that review seems to love hitting random gate failures. | 09:38 |
| kashyap | Yeah :-( | 09:38 |
| kashyap | Anyway to fix that? | 09:39 |
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| jangutter | kashyap: that's down to bugfixing, unfortunately. Digging into the logs might help to try to find out if it's something you can spot. | 09:43 |
| kashyap | jangutter: Will do. But the last time I did, nothing was related to my patch :-( | 09:43 |
| jangutter | kashyap: yep, I can almost 100% guarantee that there isn't. | 09:43 |
| jangutter | kashyap: (a fix related to your patch, I mean). | 09:44 |
| kashyap | I don't see any failures here either: http://logs.openstack.org/80/630980/7/gate/tempest-full/5b6ebba/testr_results.html.gz | 09:44 |
| jangutter | kashyap: I think devstack took too long to spin up. | 09:45 |
| jangutter | kashyap: If you look at http://logs.openstack.org/80/630980/7/gate/tempest-full/5b6ebba/ara-report/ <--- it took 30 minutes for the run-devstack task. | 09:50 |
| jangutter | kashyap: some of these failures require a skill level that waay beyond my ability to comprehend. | 09:50 |
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| kashyap | Hmm | 09:52 |
| kashyap | Thanks for looking; I'll check w/ the -infra folks | 09:52 |
| jangutter | kashyap: yeah, digging into that ara-report, there's a 30 minute timeout on tasks, and the task went too long. Could be that the VM was running under contention or something so there's a very high chance a recheck will succeed. | 09:56 |
| kashyap | Alright, we've had about 6 re-checks | 09:56 |
| kashyap | Another one is in progress; let's see. | 09:57 |
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| tinwood | Morning. Is there anyone who could take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/633279/ for me; I needed to add the LXD bit, but not sure if I should have version bumped. Many thanks! | 11:34 |
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| gibi | kashyap: I didn't see such tempest timeout recently but not long ago we had problems with tempest slowness and moved some of the tests to tempest-slow | 11:49 |
| ioni | hello guys | 11:51 |
| gibi | kashyap: if you can dig up what are the slowest test in those runs that timed out then we can move some more test to tempest-slow | 11:51 |
| ioni | what's the right way to disable out of date images ? | 11:51 |
| ioni | --deactivate or --private or other way? | 11:51 |
| ioni | because now i'm using --deactive and if an instance that is using this image wants to resize, nova returnes and error that the project doesn't have permission to that specific image | 11:52 |
| ioni | that is now in error state | 11:52 |
| ioni | i'm doing something wrong or is a bug? | 11:52 |
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| ioni | the error log: https://paste.xinu.at/b6ZsNA/ | 11:55 |
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| jaosorior | kashyap: Hello! Are you the right person to ask a libvirtd related question? | 12:56 |
| kashyap | gibi: Give me a few; check out this: http://logs.openstack.org/80/630980/7/gate/tempest-full/5b6ebba/ara-report/ | 13:02 |
| kashyap | gibi: Pointed out by jangutter earlier; where the 'run-devstack' task was taking 30 minutes | 13:02 |
| kashyap | jaosorior: Hi, you can you ask, I can try :-) | 13:02 |
| jaosorior | kashyap: I'm trying to reload libvirtd, given that it's certificate got rotated. in the man pages it says SIGHUP should do that... but it seems it doesn't... wanted to know if this is a bug, or if there's some other mechanism I could/should use instead. | 13:03 |
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| kashyap | jaosorior: Hmm, interesting problem | 13:06 |
| kashyap | jaosorior: Can you afford to do an explicit stop+start of the daemon? | 13:07 |
| kashyap | If so, does that pick up the new certs? | 13:07 |
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| jaosorior | kashyap: would that disrupt instances running on the host? | 13:08 |
| kashyap | jaosorior: Good news: no. | 13:08 |
| kashyap | jaosorior: Hang on, though. | 13:09 |
| jaosorior | kashyap: what about connections from nova? | 13:09 |
| kashyap | First, is that a production instance? | 13:09 |
| jaosorior | yes | 13:09 |
| jaosorior | well... not where I'm testing all this stuff :D | 13:09 |
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| kashyap | jaosorior: But know that: restarting `libvirtd` will _not_ bring your instances down. | 13:09 |
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| jaosorior | but that's the goal, yes | 13:09 |
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| kashyap | jaosorior: BTW, the SIGHUP config is ill-defined in the `libvirtd` man page :-( | 13:11 |
| kashyap | It says: "On receipt of SIGHUP libvirtd will reload its configuration." | 13:11 |
| jaosorior | right | 13:11 |
| kashyap | But doesn't expand what is "its configuration". | 13:11 |
| kashyap | I'll get that sorted w/ the libvirt upstream to expand and elaborate. | 13:12 |
| jaosorior | TLS certs/keys are configuration IMO :D | 13:12 |
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| kashyap | jaosorior: Okay, so you're using TLS. | 13:12 |
| kashyap | And you want to pick up renewed certificates. Then problem is not libvirtd, I'm afraid — QEMU is the real blocker | 13:13 |
| jaosorior | what are my options? | 13:14 |
| kashyap | Because it (QEMU) can't reload certificates on the fly. (And also QEMU can't just be "restarted") | 13:14 |
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| kashyap | Let me check with libvirt folks. | 13:14 |
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| jaosorior | kashyap: thanks! | 13:15 |
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| kashyap | jaosorior: So, your only viable option is a bit heavy: live migration of the QEMU instance(s). | 13:16 |
| kashyap | (I.e. Nova instances) | 13:16 |
| ioni | where the certs are used? | 13:16 |
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| kashyap | ioni: For TLS for various Nova services, I presume | 13:19 |
| kashyap | jaosorior: Related, recently we merged this: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/doc/source/admin/secure-live-migration-with-qemu-native-tls.rst | 13:19 |
| kashyap | There is a nicer rendered version | 13:20 |
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| kashyap | jaosorior: http://logs.openstack.org/83/631283/3/check/openstack-tox-docs/615979c/html/admin/secure-live-migration-with-qemu-native-tls.html | 13:20 |
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| jaosorior | kashyap: I'm a little confused though. the TLS implementation for connections to libvirtd is not the same one then as the one for qemu, right? | 13:22 |
| kashyap | (But the above URL doesn't solve the existing problem, though. It is "future goodness", when you upgrade.) | 13:22 |
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| kashyap | jaosorior: Are you using the 'live_migration_tunnelled' Nova config? | 13:23 |
| kashyap | jaosorior: They're somewhat connected: when you use TLS with libvirt, it is passing the TLS creds under the hood to QEMU. | 13:24 |
| jaosorior | kashyap: we are, yeah | 13:24 |
| kashyap | jaosorior: I can tell more details, if you post your QEMU command-line of your Nova instance (from the TLS env) | 13:24 |
| jaosorior | kashyap: sure | 13:24 |
| kashyap | I need to grab a quick bite (not going to eat in front of the computer, as a rule). Be back in 15 mins | 13:24 |
| jaosorior | kashyap: sure. Good time for me to make some coffee | 13:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Skip checking of target_dev for vhostuser https://review.openstack.org/633734 | 13:32 |
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| kashyap | jaosorior: Let me know when you have the output. | 13:43 |
| kashyap | jaosorior: But regardless, this requires support in QEMU and libvirt. I'll file RFEs w/ relevant upstreams | 13:50 |
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| jaosorior | kashyap: that would be great! (sorry, I'm in a meeting) | 13:50 |
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| gibi | jaypipes, mriedem: thanks for the reviews on the bandwidth series. I will propose the fup patch based on your comments | 15:06 |
| jaypipes | gibi: ack. will try to get through remaining patches later. | 15:07 |
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| gibi | jaypipes: I saw your -1 in the middle. I will need to get back to dansmith about the second microversion | 15:08 |
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| mriedem | gibi: yw, glad to help move this along | 15:09 |
| mriedem | also hopefully we can maybe merge some code yet this month https://review.openstack.org/#/c/633566/ | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: API microversion 2.68: Handles Down Cells https://review.openstack.org/591657 | 15:15 |
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| gibi | mriedem: yeah, the gate is not on my side :) | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add configuration of maximum disk devices to attach https://review.openstack.org/616777 | 15:22 |
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| mriedem | i'm +2 on ^ now | 15:23 |
| mriedem | and the one below | 15:23 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: amen on the merging code comment. | 15:24 |
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| kashyap | mriedem: I'm only 3 months late on your question here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506720/ | 15:26 |
| kashyap | (In short, I'm planning to revive that Secure Boot spec for Train.) | 15:26 |
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| kashyap | I posted a few interim updates there based on the completed work in OVMF, QEMU, libvirt & related tooling. I didn't post one since last August due to the libvirt bug still being in ASSIGNED state: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1605127 | 15:29 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1605127 in libvirt "RFE: QEMU firmware metadata format - libvirt support" [Unspecified,Assigned] - Assigned to phrdina | 15:29 |
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| mriedem | jangutter: i looked at the evacuate network-vif-plugged timeout errors in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571325/ - tldr is it looks like we get the event before we're ready for it, which is weird | 15:33 |
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| jangutter | mriedem: think it's something transient or still surviving in master branches? | 15:34 |
| mriedem | i assume it's transient otherwise that job would be 100% failure | 15:34 |
| mriedem | would be useful if we logged when we register the event callbacks | 15:34 |
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| mriedem | oh we do | 15:37 |
| mriedem | Jan 29 01:11:55.567189 ubuntu-xenial-rax-ord-0002201755 nova-compute[15903]: DEBUG nova.compute.manager [None req-252304a1-6eff-4ff3-aa4d-b4e0ab87601c demo admin] [instance: 2e82ddcd-75b8-4a41-8ecd-ce175adbdc67] Preparing to wait for external event network-vif-plugged-e241f79f-fb0d-4961-b0c8-aea9de2755bf {{(pid=15903) prepare_for_instance_event /opt/stack/new/nova/nova/compute/manager.py:325}} | 15:37 |
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| mriedem | which is too late | 15:38 |
| mriedem | Jan 29 01:11:49.707004 ubuntu-xenial-rax-ord-0002201755 devstack@n-api.service[22319]: DEBUG nova.api.openstack.wsgi [req-3ed0ada1-7328-4d5a-a3ea-da34dcdb252d req-1f5aeede-83c6-44d5-afd4-b5435e71d61f service nova] Action: 'create', calling method: <bound method ServerExternalEventsController.create of <nova.api.openstack.compute.server_external_events.ServerExternalEventsController object at 0x7fb0133aa050>>, body: {"e | 15:39 |
| mriedem | s": [{"status": "completed", "tag": "e241f79f-fb0d-4961-b0c8-aea9de2755bf", "name": "network-vif-plugged", "server_uuid": "2e82ddcd-75b8-4a41-8ecd-ce175adbdc67"}]} {{(pid=22322) _process_stack /opt/stack/new/nova/nova/api/openstack/wsgi.py:520}} | 15:39 |
| jangutter | mriedem: nicely reversed causality there. | 15:41 |
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| mriedem | http://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message%3A%5C%22Timeout%20waiting%20for%20%5B('network-vif-plugged'%5C%22%20AND%20message%3A%5C%22for%20instance%20with%20vm_state%20error%20and%20task_state%20rebuild_spawning.%5C%22%20AND%20tags%3A%5C%22screen-n-cpu.txt%5C%22&from=7d | 15:43 |
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| mnaser | is there any stable cores around to +w this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/619352/ | 15:46 |
| mriedem | jangutter: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1813789 | 15:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1813789 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Evacuate test intermittently fails with network-vif-plugged timeout exception" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:47 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: since melwitt is out this week i replied on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/632904/ for that TooManyDiskDevices API error check | 16:08 |
| mriedem | tl;dr there was already a lot of discussion between myself, melwitt, cdent and edleafe on that 403 | 16:08 |
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| mriedem | i personally don't care if we change to 409, but i don't really think 400 is correct | 16:09 |
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| cdent | yeah, 409 is most correct, but 403 is consistent | 16:11 |
| efried | mriedem: Where's the code that converts ComputeDriver.capabilities into traits on the compute node RP?? | 16:17 |
| mriedem | efried: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538498/ | 16:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Fup for the bandwidth resource provider series https://review.openstack.org/633776 | 16:18 |
| efried | o | 16:18 |
| efried | Why hasn't this merged yet <== because some a-hole -1'd it. | 16:18 |
| mriedem | because i haven't updated it | 16:19 |
| gibi | jaypipes, mriedem: here is the followup fixing comments in patches that are approved https://review.openstack.org/633776 | 16:19 |
| mriedem | gibi: ack | 16:19 |
| efried | mriedem: Cool beans, just knew I had seen said code somewhere, but couldn't find it in the master branch. Thanks. | 16:19 |
| kashyap | jangutter: Where do you see the 'run-devstack' taking 30 minutes here: http://logs.openstack.org/80/630980/7/gate/tempest-full/5b6ebba/ara-report/ | 16:21 |
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| kashyap | jangutter: The one I found actually successfully "FINISHED" | 16:22 |
| kashyap | (Although taking 30 mins & completing are not mutually exclusive.) | 16:22 |
| jangutter | kashyap: in the devstack-tempest.yaml line, click on the "16 Tasks" button to pull them down. The run-devstack : Run devstack task went over 30 minutes. | 16:22 |
| kashyap | jangutter: Right, there the status of 'run-devstack' task is "CHANGED". | 16:23 |
| jangutter | kashyap: if you click on the parameters for the plays, you'll also see "timeout 30" | 16:23 |
| kashyap | jangutter: Right, there I see it's 30 mins. And when I click on its 'Status' ("CHANGED" - what does it even mean), the job finished. | 16:24 |
| kashyap | So I don't see any action item there. | 16:24 |
| jangutter | kashyap: the playbook was interrupted, so the ARA results are inconsistent | 16:24 |
| kashyap | Hmm | 16:24 |
| kashyap | Just want to put this change out of its misery; it's been in time-out/recheck hell for 9 days | 16:25 |
| jangutter | kashyap: http://logs.openstack.org/80/630980/7/gate/tempest-full/5b6ebba/job-output.txt.gz#_2019-01-29_00_14_28_138371 <--- this Ansible telling you the play timed out. | 16:26 |
| kashyap | Ah, _there_ is the specific piece of hay in the haystack! | 16:27 |
| jangutter | kashyap: is the recheck still in the gate? | 16:27 |
| kashyap | Yeah, 8 hours and running. | 16:27 |
| kashyap | Or something like that. But it doesn't bother me much, I've got a more than a few irons in the fire. | 16:28 |
| kashyap | Just that it's annoying to wake up each morning to see that thing time out. | 16:28 |
| jangutter | kashyap: the sarlacc pit is slow, but thorough. (plagiarizing and butchering jaypipes). | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Adrian Chiris proposed openstack/nova master: Add free for claimed, allocated devices https://review.openstack.org/616120 | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Adrian Chiris proposed openstack/nova master: Allow per-port modification of vnic_type and profile https://review.openstack.org/607365 | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Adrian Chiris proposed openstack/nova master: Add get_instance_pci_request_from_vif https://review.openstack.org/619929 | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Adrian Chiris proposed openstack/nova master: SR-IOV Live migration indirect port support https://review.openstack.org/620115 | 16:28 |
| mriedem | gibi: regarding the microversion for move operations comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/630722/ i replied that i don't think we have to make that decision at that point in the series | 16:28 |
| kashyap | jangutter: Hehe | 16:28 |
| jangutter | kashyap: you'll see the tempest tests above that line have got times attached. Not sure if you could also grab them from the testr results, but chances are one of them is a candidate for the -slow set. | 16:29 |
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| jangutter | kashyap: I did see your review seems to have hit _different_ snags in the gate each time, so congratulations on being kind of a lightning rod. | 16:30 |
| kashyap | jangutter: Yeah, I see some of the network tests are taking terribly long (test_server_connectivity_reboot) | 16:31 |
| jangutter | kashyap: a heck of a lot of neutron and keystone reviews are getting booted because of what seems to be a sudden tightening up of pep8 enforcement. | 16:32 |
| kashyap | jangutter: Yep, mumble-mumble something about "good deeds". | 16:32 |
| kashyap | jangutter: I see, thanks for the info. | 16:33 |
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| stephenfin | Nice docs patch here if anyone fancies taking a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/626931 | 17:23 |
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| kashyap | stephenfin: Yes, that's an important point easy to miss. | 17:31 |
| kashyap | +1ed, FWIW. | 17:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: libvirt: A few miscellaneous items related to "native TLS" https://review.openstack.org/630980 | 17:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: docs: Update references to "QEMU-native TLS" document https://review.openstack.org/631283 | 17:36 |
| jangutter | hehehe, kashyap, another timeout http://logs.openstack.org/59/624959/5/gate/tempest-full/ce2253e/job-output.txt.gz#_2019-01-29_17_20_17_952753 but looks like your reviews got merged! | 17:41 |
| kashyap | Very bizarre | 17:42 |
| kashyap | But I won't complain | 17:42 |
| kashyap | That's a good excuse to go cook some dinner. | 17:42 |
| kashyap | jangutter: The difference is time-out was not in the _same_ job ("tempest-full"), which succeeded this time. | 17:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jack Ding proposed openstack/nova master: Preserve UEFI NVRAM variable store https://review.openstack.org/621646 | 18:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Jack Ding proposed openstack/nova master: Improve libvirt image and snapshot handling https://review.openstack.org/616692 | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Jack Ding proposed openstack/nova master: Correct instance port binding for rebuilds https://review.openstack.org/603844 | 18:14 |
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| tomtom001 | hello, I am running openstack queens and I am having trouble getting nova instances to boot using emphemeral storage. I have force_raw_images = false and use_cow_images = true for my settings, would these conflict with that? I also have Host aggregates setting ephemeralcomputestorage = false would this cause a problem for the boot process? When my instances boot they just go to "No bootable | 18:51 |
| tomtom001 | device" nova, cinder, and ceph seem to be all functioning correctly. | 18:52 |
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| tomtom001 | While I've found documentation for the nova settings, I have not found any for the Host Aggregate settings and how it affects the storage selection. | 18:53 |
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| mriedem | ephemeralcomputestorage isn't a special key in nova, | 19:07 |
| mriedem | presumably you're trying to use that to restrict certain flavors or images to that host aggregate and linking it by the ephemeralcomputestorage key | 19:07 |
| mriedem | e.g. https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/configuration/schedulers.html#aggregateimagepropertiesisolation and https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/configuration/schedulers.html#aggregateinstanceextraspecsfilter | 19:08 |
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| tomtom001 | mriedem: so if I've done that then I wouldn't be able to use ephemeral on our host aggregates with that key set? | 19:09 |
| mriedem | are you trying to boot from volume? | 19:10 |
| mriedem | i don't know where the "no bootable device" error is coming from - libvirt? | 19:10 |
| mriedem | also not sure what you mean by ephemeral storage - do you mean local storage on the compute node? | 19:11 |
| mriedem | i.e. not volume backed | 19:11 |
| tomtom001 | from the console of the instance, showing no bootable device, ephemeral is not local nova disk, just not volume backed. | 19:12 |
| mriedem | sounds like a problem with the image | 19:13 |
| tomtom001 | The same images work if booted with a volume backing. | 19:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hang Yang proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Fix port dns_name reset https://review.openstack.org/633806 | 19:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Hang Yang proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Fix port dns_name reset https://review.openstack.org/633807 | 19:24 |
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| ioni | hello guys | 19:34 |
| ioni | what's the right way to disable out of date images ? | 19:34 |
| ioni | --deactivate or --private or other way? | 19:34 |
| ioni | because now i'm using --deactive and if an instance that is using this image wants to resize, nova returnes and error that the project doesn't have permission to that specific image | 19:35 |
| ioni | the error log: https://paste.xinu.at/b6ZsNA/ | 19:35 |
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| jaypipes | ioni: I would do the --private (or --protected + --private) route. | 19:48 |
| ioni | jaypipes, that will prevent having issue with resizing ? | 19:49 |
| ioni | thats what i want to resolve | 19:49 |
| jaypipes | ioni: is your entire goal just to remove the image from the list of images that users see in Horizon or `openstack image list`? | 19:50 |
| ioni | jaypipes, indeed | 19:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jack Ding proposed openstack/nova master: Preserve UEFI NVRAM variable store https://review.openstack.org/621646 | 19:52 |
| jaypipes | ioni: you're on Queens, right? | 19:52 |
| ioni | jaypipes, yes | 19:52 |
| jaypipes | ioni: k. | 19:52 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: if ioni deletes an image will that image still be available for resize operations? I know we continue to store the image metadata for instances but not sure if our resize operation will barf at deleted images or not. | 19:53 |
| jaypipes | ioni: I'm assuming here you're talking about same-original-image resizes, not resize with a different image... | 19:53 |
| ioni | jaypipes, that's mostly the case I didn't want to delete images, i don't know what happens | 19:53 |
| jaypipes | ioni: ack. I'm not entirely sure either, which is why I called out the big guns (mriedem) | 19:54 |
| ioni | jaypipes, openstack image resize, so yes, the same original image | 19:54 |
| ioni | *openstack server resize | 19:54 |
| mriedem | there is no resize with a different image | 19:54 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: ah, sorry, yea, was thinking rebuild. | 19:54 |
| mriedem | i suspect that if you delete the backing image and try to resize it will fail b/c the dest host won't be able to pull down the image | 19:55 |
| ioni | i don't know why is trying to check the original image | 19:55 |
| ioni | i have like 7 images with centos 7, built in various time acros years and some instances are running on old images | 19:55 |
| ioni | i do update images from time to time to include up to date packages | 19:56 |
| ioni | i only want the most up to date image to be available | 19:56 |
| ioni | but also resize to work | 19:56 |
| mriedem | ioni: have you asked the glance folk in #openstack-glance or the operators in #openstack-operators? | 19:58 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure what the difference is between a deactivated image and a deleted image | 19:58 |
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| mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/glance/latest/admin/index.html isn't helping me | 19:58 |
| ioni | mriedem, i didn't ask in there, mostly because nova fails with an error | 19:58 |
| ioni | so i was thinking that's a nova issue | 19:58 |
| mriedem | you could maybe make the image visibility 'shared' and then only grant access to the projects that need access to that image to resize https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/image/v2/index.html#sharing | 19:59 |
| mriedem | but then it's not public for all projects to use | 19:59 |
| mriedem | and it wouldn't show up in the default image list for those sharing member projects, only the owner (admin i presume) | 19:59 |
| mriedem | anyway seems like a pretty common problem, i'd try #openstack-glance or #openstack-operators | 20:00 |
| mriedem | it's not really a nova issue | 20:00 |
| ioni | ok | 20:00 |
| ioni | thanks | 20:00 |
| mriedem | if you find out some juicy details please report back :) | 20:00 |
| mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/operations-guide/ops-user-facing-operations.html#deleting-images also isn't very helpful | 20:02 |
| mriedem | "deleting images is fine unless you need to migrate servers" | 20:02 |
| mriedem | :( | 20:02 |
| ioni | so is mostly about driver | 20:03 |
| ioni | or about the storage backend | 20:04 |
| ioni | qcow, raw or other | 20:04 |
| mriedem | well, libvirt is by far the most widely used compute driver, | 20:05 |
| mriedem | if you were using shared instance storage across all of your computes, then the image might be cached and you don't need to fetch it from glance, | 20:05 |
| mriedem | but that's not a deployment strategy that everyone uses | 20:05 |
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| mriedem | ioni: btw i'm asking in #openstack-operators | 20:07 |
| ioni | mriedem, yes, i saw, i'm going to continue there | 20:07 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: the answer was change the image status to "community" which hides it from the image list for all users except the owner, but you can reach it by uuid if you know it | 20:11 |
| mriedem | so like shared but less private | 20:11 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: ugh | 20:18 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: that is so very non-obvious. | 20:18 |
| mriedem | at least there is a solution | 20:20 |
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| cdent | "at least there is a solution" is the first album from my band "so very non-obvious" | 20:26 |
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| artom | I thought My Chemical Romance already did that? | 20:35 |
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| cdent | mriedem, jaypipes : can either of you remember the details of what's left on the nova side to make shared disk a possibility? | 20:43 |
| cdent | The reason I ask is because I've been modelling various disk set ups in placement with the usual gabbits things I do, and it works very nicely from that side of things. | 20:44 |
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| mriedem | the bug about it has details | 20:52 |
| jaypipes | cdent: mostly I think it's just that nova and the virt drivers simply have no idea that instances use shared storage or not. There needs to be something added to the resource tracker (I had proposed that provider YAML config file for this type of purpose) that communicates to the nova-compute service that the compute node has access to shared storage. | 20:52 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1784020 | 20:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1784020 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Shared storage providers are not supported and will break things if used" [Medium,Fix released] | 20:52 |
| mriedem | there are lots of TODOs and FIXMEs in the code with things like "this will need to change to support sharing providers" | 20:53 |
| mriedem | like in the cold migration flow | 20:53 |
| cdent | thanks, I had lost track of that bug | 20:53 |
| * cdent nods | 20:53 | |
| mriedem | also L220 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-stein | 20:53 |
| jaypipes | cdent: along with a giant-ass reshape-the-world-for-shared-storage function that would "correct" the allocation of resources. | 20:53 |
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| cdent | It's looking like shared disk could make multiple datastores in one vsphere cluster way more sensible. nested could also work, but shared will work in both the "this cluster owns this store" and "this store is used by multiple clusters" set ups | 20:57 |
| mriedem | fyi, new pip release of something is destroying pep8 in the gate | 21:05 |
| mriedem | this https://pypi.org/project/pycodestyle/2.5.0/ | 21:06 |
| cdent | joy! | 21:11 |
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| cdent | this is the disk playing about I was talking about ^^ https://github.com/cdent/placement-disk-models | 21:11 |
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| mriedem | good lord i really dislike the PciDevice* object interfaces | 22:04 |
| mriedem | so different from everything else we have for versioned objects | 22:04 |
| mriedem | burying too much business logic in the data model | 22:06 |
| mriedem | it's that some kind of anti-pattern... | 22:06 |
| mriedem | *isn't that | 22:06 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: interesting fun fact of the day: you can't load 'fault' using expected_attrs with Instance.get_by_uuid | 22:38 |
| mriedem | http://paste.openstack.org/show/744212/ | 22:40 |
| mriedem | something everyone cares about | 22:40 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: http://zuul.openstack.org is not working. https://zuul.openstack.org does work. Please use that while we investigate. | 23:14 | |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove deprecated 'os-server-groups' policy https://review.openstack.org/633672 | 23:24 |
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