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| fanzhang | Hi edleafe, sorry to borther you, I notice that you have some commits to keystoneauth, I'm wondering that do you have any idea to config 'connect_retries' of Adapter in Nova or in Placement? We've met some ('Connection aborted.', BadStatusLine("''",) errors while trying to get allocation candidates, I am not sure adding retries would help. But it seems https://github.com/openstack/keystoneauth/blob/master/keystoneauth1/adapter.py#L46 here | 02:32 |
| fanzhang | we can pass the connect_reties args, but in https://github.com/openstack/keystoneauth/blob/master/keystoneauth1/loading/adapter.py#L205 there are only few args. | 02:32 |
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| jangutter | :-O finally! | 09:00 |
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| edleafe | fanzhang: Sorry, but I haven't worked with keystone in many years. Perhaps someone else here might have more insight into how to debug the BadStatusLine errors. | 14:15 |
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| mriedem | i've been seeing this traceback in n-cpu logs in the gate, it seems harmless but is ugly, and i haven't dug into what introduced it http://logs.openstack.org/80/630980/5/check/grenade-py3/49818d8/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz#_Jan_17_08_04_31_907868 | 14:34 |
| mriedem | something trying to hit the db from nova-compute | 14:35 |
| mriedem | w/o going through conductor | 14:35 |
| cdent | ah, interesting, I saw that in the vmware ci logs and assumed it was the vmware ci being set up incorrectly (it is, but apparently not because of that) | 14:36 |
| mriedem | kashyap: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/support-qemu-native-tls-for-live-migration+status:open would be OK except for you have libvirt 4.0.0 as a minimum requirement in a couple of places | 14:39 |
| mriedem | which i'm guessing is a typo | 14:39 |
| kashyap | Meeting hell, will check back shortly here; sorry. | 14:40 |
| mriedem | cdent: looks like it's actually in rocky too... | 14:41 |
| mriedem | i think i know what it is | 14:41 |
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| kashyap | mriedem: Damn, indeed :-( it is 4.4.0 | 14:42 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Icddbe4760eaff30e4e13c1e8d3d5d3f489dac3c4 | 14:42 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i think ^ is causing the tracebacks in the n-cpu logs on startup | 14:43 |
| kashyap | Eagle eyes. /me curses himself for missing that detail | 14:43 |
| mriedem | well, maybe not | 14:44 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1812398 | 14:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1812398 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "DBNotAllowed tracebacks in nova-compute logs" [High,Confirmed] | 14:44 |
| dansmith | hmm | 14:44 |
| cdent | mriedem: that conditional seems a bit weird anyway: having a configuration for the api database doesn't mean you have a real connection does it? | 14:45 |
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| cdent | (in that process) | 14:45 |
| mriedem | it means compute is configured to be able to reach the api db | 14:45 |
| mriedem | up-calls | 14:45 |
| cdent | that's all it takes? So (accidentally?) reusing conf between a controller node and compute node is bad? | 14:47 |
| cdent | or even between a nova-compute process on a controller node and the rest of the nova processes | 14:47 |
| mriedem | there are some cases where people have to allow nova-compute to hit the api db | 14:48 |
| mriedem | for things that aren't properly isolated yet | 14:48 |
| dansmith | hang on, | 14:48 |
| mriedem | docshttps://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/cellsv2-layout.html#operations-requiring-upcalls | 14:48 |
| cdent | thanks mriedem | 14:48 |
| mriedem | this traceback isn't giving me much | 14:48 |
| dansmith | this traceback would be for the non-api db not api | 14:48 |
| dansmith | yeah, it's confusingly ambiguous | 14:49 |
| mriedem | Jan 17 08:04:31.900276 ubuntu-xenial-inap-mtl01-0001764122 nova-compute[29129]: DEBUG nova.context [None req-6462a6fa-ac8b-4802-bed8-18c335fc623f None None] Found 2 cells: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000(cell0),2d97f3c8-5ea1-41e1-b849-6cfbf74eefec(cell1) {{(pid=29129) load_cells /opt/stack/old/nova/nova/context.py:479}} | 14:49 |
| mriedem | something is hitting the api db here... | 14:49 |
| dansmith | yeah, so maybe the deal is, | 14:51 |
| dansmith | it hit the api database to get the cell mappings (which it seems to have), | 14:51 |
| dansmith | but then is hitting the db prohibition for compute while trying to get service | 14:51 |
| mriedem | well this taint right | 14:51 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/80/630980/5/check/grenade-py3/49818d8/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz#_Jan_17_08_04_32_547867 | 14:51 |
| mriedem | Jan 17 08:04:32.547867 ubuntu-xenial-inap-mtl01-0001764122 nova-compute[29129]: DEBUG oslo_service.service [None req-6462a6fa-ac8b-4802-bed8-18c335fc623f None None] command line args: ['--config-file', '/etc/nova/nova.conf'] {{(pid=29129) log_opt_values /usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/oslo_config/cfg.py:3008}} | 14:51 |
| mriedem | that's why it's hitting the api db | 14:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Kucia proposed openstack/nova master: SR-IOV passthrough: Check PF only if VF is enabled https://review.openstack.org/476642 | 14:52 |
| dansmith | hrm | 14:52 |
| dansmith | yeah | 14:52 |
| mriedem | oh... | 14:53 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/f165ad49206f520e8fc3aac535e77f82ea410ea4 | 14:53 |
| mriedem | but i think grenade runs in singleconductor mode | 14:54 |
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| dansmith | well, that means we probably need to tweak it so it gets a neutered config like in devstack | 14:57 |
| mriedem | that is devstack, but yes on the neutering | 14:57 |
| dansmith | I mean a devstack job | 14:57 |
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| mriedem | checking logstash yeah it's all grenade jobs | 15:09 |
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| * kashyap hands out a attention-to-detail badge to mriedem | 15:24 | |
| kashyap | What is this "badge" thing you speak of? Fedora project does these "badges" for fun (e.g. if your build failed 20 times, you get a badge; you write a doc, you get a "Junior Editor" badge, etc.) | 15:25 |
| kashyap | So recently I got an "adult frog" badge :D -- https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/adult-frog | 15:25 |
| kashyap | Anyway. Enough with the diggression. | 15:26 |
| mriedem | so if someone licks your back now they hallucinate? | 15:27 |
| kashyap | Heh, just learnt about "licking toads" | 15:27 |
| kashyap | Here are all the "fun" badges I accumulated :D: https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/kashyapc | 15:28 |
| kashyap | mriedem: On that review; just saw your remarks, will address the nits. | 15:28 |
| mriedem | will see if this cleans up the logs in grenade runs https://review.openstack.org/631811 | 15:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/os-vif master: Import IP implementation modules outside privsep context https://review.openstack.org/629025 | 16:22 |
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| jroll | mriedem | jroll: ironic has a task engine thing right? does that use taskflow? <- yes, no | 16:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: do not always plug ovs ports. https://review.openstack.org/631829 | 16:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: Cleanup device at the end of 'test_iproute_object_closes_correctly' test https://review.openstack.org/629112 | 16:52 |
| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: Import IP implementation modules outside privsep context https://review.openstack.org/629025 | 16:52 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: are you going to be able to jump on this qos minimum bandwidth call in 5 minutes? | 16:55 |
| mriedem | also, isn't it friday? | 16:55 |
| mriedem | no superdan | 16:56 |
| mriedem | no leakypipes | 16:56 |
| mriedem | no fried_rice | 16:56 |
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| lbragstad | but where's hans_moleman? | 16:57 |
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| fried_rice | Thanks mriedem | 16:57 |
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| cdent | I assumed that casual nick friday was shut down as part of the federal shutdown | 16:58 |
| hansmoleman | i've got a table full of fast food that says otherwise | 16:58 |
| cdent | self-funded? It's only legit if its self-funded | 16:58 |
| hansmoleman | it's funded via my non-profit yes | 16:59 |
| gibi | bandwidth hangouts https://hangouts.google.com/call/oZAfCFV3XaH3IxaA0-ITAEEI | 16:59 |
| sean-k-mooney | hi can i get some eye on the 3 os-vif change i just pushed i want to fast track them to do a release of os-vif today to unblock the gate | 16:59 |
| cdent | hansmoleman: the depth you are able to carry a reference is impressive | 16:59 |
| jaypipes | mrhillsman: yes | 16:59 |
| jaypipes | doink, sorry mrhillsman, I meant hansmoleman | 17:00 |
| hansmoleman | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/bandwidth-way-forward | 17:00 |
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| mrhillsman | np | 17:01 |
| hansmoleman | sean-k-mooney: we're on this call if you care | 17:01 |
| sean-k-mooney | oh sorry yes i should join continue with out me | 17:02 |
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| sean-k-mooney | ill be there in a sec | 17:02 |
| melwitt | guess no one cares about jgwentworth | 17:03 |
| hansmoleman | so this is the functional test stub https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567268/43/nova/tests/functional/test_servers.py@5711 | 17:04 |
| hansmoleman | to enable the code in functional tests even though the API doesn't allow the new stuff | 17:04 |
| dansmith | hansmoleman: I think that grenade patch makes sense at first glance | 17:05 |
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| cdent | gerrit being restarted? | 17:08 |
| cdent | guess so, better now | 17:08 |
| fried_rice | They did threaten that that was going to happen about now. | 17:08 |
| fried_rice | upgrading | 17:09 |
| fried_rice | cdent: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/001833.html | 17:09 |
| cdent | my ability to keep track of things is broken | 17:09 |
| cdent | thanks | 17:09 |
| fried_rice | Crowdsourced thing tracking --^ | 17:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul-Emile Element proposed openstack/nova master: Add emulated TPM support to Nova https://review.openstack.org/631363 | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova stable/ocata: Make supports_direct_io work on 4096b sector size https://review.openstack.org/631843 | 17:30 |
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| leakypipes | mlavalle: mind having a look at my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631684/1/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py? | 17:36 |
| mlavalle | leakypipes: sure, I'll look at it | 17:36 |
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| leakypipes | mlavalle: gracias | 17:38 |
| mlavalle | de nada | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: Cleanup device at the end of 'test_iproute_object_closes_correctly' test https://review.openstack.org/629112 | 17:56 |
| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: Import IP implementation modules outside privsep context https://review.openstack.org/629025 | 17:56 |
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| gibi | melwitt sean-k-mooney hansmoleman leakypipes mlavalle: summary of the hangouts call about the bandwidth feature is on the ML http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/001879.html | 18:10 |
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| mlavalle | gibi: thanks. have a nice weekend | 18:11 |
| melwitt | gibi: thanks, have a good weekend o/ | 18:11 |
| gibi | same to you | 18:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Remove args(os=False) in monkey_patch https://review.openstack.org/568999 | 18:19 |
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| sean-k-mooney | melwitt: leakypipes i have submited a patch to release os-vif 1.14.0 to unblock the gates. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631860/1 it depends on 3 patches that still need to be merged. when zuul comments back will ye be around later to review them? | 18:28 |
| melwitt | sean-k-mooney: we usually use Depends-On in the release patch to hold it for specific things (so it won't pass CI until ready) | 18:30 |
| sean-k-mooney | the release repo jobs dont actully support depends-on | 18:31 |
| sean-k-mooney | i usually add it out of habit | 18:31 |
| sean-k-mooney | but it will fail the validate job | 18:31 |
| sean-k-mooney | until the depencys are merged | 18:31 |
| melwitt | on the first patch, you +2ed your own patch | 18:31 |
| melwitt | yeah, I meant validate job will hold it | 18:32 |
| sean-k-mooney | ya i generally avoid that but im not goint to +w so im going to leave that to others. | 18:32 |
| sean-k-mooney | if we want to have 2 +2 + mine that is fine too | 18:32 |
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| melwitt | sean-k-mooney: ok, if os-vif has a single +2 policy, or a self-approval-allowed policy, I haven't been aware of it | 18:36 |
| sean-k-mooney | melwitt: but yes point taken i normally take more time but the neutron folks been pushing to fix this. | 18:37 |
| leakypipes | sean-k-mooney: +2 on bottom patch. | 18:37 |
| sean-k-mooney | self approval + one other has been what we did for quite a while before added nova-core to os-vif as there were 3 active reviews so usually the patch was written by one of those 3 | 18:38 |
| sean-k-mooney | but as i said i generally avoid it | 18:38 |
| melwitt | ok, I wasn't aware of that. thanks | 18:39 |
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| sean-k-mooney | leakypipes: since i need to resping the 3 change will i fix the typos in the first while im at it? | 18:45 |
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| sean-k-mooney | melwitt: by the way if you want to change to 2 independet +2s for os-vif we can. since nova-core has been added there are more peole that can review but its still mainly myself stephen and jay that do in pratice https://www.stackalytics.com/?module=os-vif | 18:48 |
| leakypipes | sean-k-mooney: up to you. I'm happy to fast-+2 after | 18:48 |
| sean-k-mooney | ok i might as well. it will delay the check jobs but we will have to wait for the gate jobs after anyway so it wont be much of a delay | 18:49 |
| melwitt | sean-k-mooney: no, wasn't implying I want a change. I just didn't know the policy was different than the usual | 18:50 |
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| leakypipes | fried_rice: k, I'm +2 on all of https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:static-rt-in-compute-mgr | 19:07 |
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| sean-k-mooney | by the way for Depends-on are we ment to use ther gerrit url or change id now with zuul v3 | 19:30 |
| sean-k-mooney | i think Depends-On: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629025/8 is prefered over Depends-on: I1852038b8d40d4aa52c4f8e661bc78e54e0fc966 correct? | 19:32 |
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| melwitt | sean-k-mooney: yes, supposed to use gerrit url now i.e. https://review.openstack.org/629025 but you don't need to change it. I was just mentioning FYI for next time to make it easier to see what changes your release request depends on | 19:37 |
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| sean-k-mooney | melwitt: well i need to update the sha so ill add it. thanks. i was 90% sure but could not find it documented | 19:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: do not always plug ovs ports. https://review.openstack.org/631829 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: Cleanup device at the end of 'test_iproute_object_closes_correctly' test https://review.openstack.org/629112 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: Import IP implementation modules outside privsep context https://review.openstack.org/629025 | 20:06 |
| hansmoleman | dansmith: yeah https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631811/ fixed that tracing once we upgrade | 20:07 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: cool, +1d | 20:08 |
| hogepodge | melwitt: mriedem: Do you know if there's a workaround to this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1755756 | 20:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1755756 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ImageUnacceptable: Image is unacceptable: 'qemu-img info' parsing failed" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to pandatt (pandatt) | 20:21 |
| hogepodge | I'm running in to it running a source build on CentOS | 20:21 |
| mriedem | hogepodge: i've never looked at that bug before | 20:24 |
| mriedem | comment from dansmith in there suggests newer qemu-utils might help | 20:25 |
| dansmith | yup | 20:26 |
| hogepodge | dansmith: how do I get those on CentOS? | 20:26 |
| dansmith | it's a new argument that isn't in the older ones. nova always passes it, which means it fails if it's too old | 20:26 |
| dansmith | hogepodge: dunnoski | 20:26 |
| hogepodge | yes, there's a check that shouldn't allow that flag to be sent for older versions (centos install 1.53 by default) | 20:27 |
| mriedem | looking at the nova code, we are doing a version check https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/queens/nova/virt/images.py#L49-L72 | 20:27 |
| hogepodge | yup, which must be failing | 20:27 |
| dansmith | noted on the bug I think | 20:28 |
| mriedem | hogepodge: what version of nova? | 20:28 |
| hogepodge | master | 20:29 |
| mriedem | that's unpossible | 20:29 |
| dansmith | might also be that backports caused that version calculus to be wrong either on ubuntu or centos | 20:29 |
| dansmith | backports against the distro qemu package I mean | 20:29 |
| mriedem | libvirt driver on master requires qemu >= 2.5 | 20:29 |
| hogepodge | ah, ok. I wonder if I botched the qemu install | 20:29 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L224 | 20:30 |
| dansmith | mriedem: pretty sure that the issue was that we installed something, got qemu-utils=something, then upgraded to cloud archive, got a new qemu, but it was fine with the older qeu-utils, and didn't upgrade it | 20:30 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: ah ok, so qemu could be 2.10 but qemu-utils could be 2.5 or something | 20:30 |
| dansmith | meaning qemu==N doesn't require qemu-utils==N, just qemu-utils==anything | 20:30 |
| dansmith | right | 20:30 |
| mriedem | yeah | 20:31 |
| hogepodge | I think what's happening is I've installed centos-release-qemu-ev which has updated qemu in my libvirt container, but not in my compute containers | 20:31 |
| mriedem | oh packaging fun | 20:31 |
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| hogepodge | Thanks for the info and helping me think through it. I'm going to patch what I think the problem is in Loci, rebuild, and try again. Still, if 2.5 is required I'd just remove that check rather than leave it in as buggy. I can send a patch up if you'd like. | 20:35 |
| mriedem | well, if qemu-img version == qemu-utils version the check would be correct | 20:37 |
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| mriedem | i mean, we could instead run qemu-img version or something and try to parse that, but that sucks | 20:38 |
| mriedem | or parse the output for "unrecognized option '--force-share'" | 20:38 |
| mriedem | but that also kind of sucks when we're already doing a version check | 20:38 |
| dansmith | or just log a better error message and not reinvent everything in the bowels | 20:40 |
| leakypipes | mriedem: hey, I hate launchpad bug search :( do you remember the bug report about rebuild getting a NoValidHost cuz the rebuild wasn't taking into account the original instance's resources properly? | 20:42 |
| fried_rice | leakypipes: Thanks. mriedem, you got https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:static-rt-in-compute-mgr in your queue (somewhere :P ) ? | 20:44 |
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| mriedem | leakypipes: that doesn't ring a bell - we'd only get novalidhost on rebuild if the image changes | 20:53 |
| mriedem | are you saying something with the scheduler filters in that case isn't getting the original request spec or something? | 20:53 |
| mriedem | like project/user or image id or something? | 20:53 |
| mriedem | fried_rice: oh boy... | 20:54 |
| mriedem | umm | 20:54 |
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| leakypipes | mriedem: I was certain there was a patch I reviewed recently-ish that had to do with capacity of a host being falsely exceeded when trying to rebuild a host. maybe it's just old age and I'm exhibiting dementia. | 21:07 |
| mriedem | rebuild or evacuate? | 21:07 |
| mriedem | fried_rice: i don't suppose cern was able to verify that series on their ironic cluster yet right? | 21:10 |
| mriedem | i think their ironic compute service code is still queens | 21:11 |
| fried_rice | mriedem: I don't think so, no. | 21:11 |
| fried_rice | they were gonna, soon. | 21:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul-Emile Element proposed openstack/nova master: Add emulated TPM support to Nova https://review.openstack.org/631363 | 21:23 |
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| mriedem | fried_rice: ok done | 21:42 |
| mriedem | i will have to review the rest of the series next week | 21:42 |
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| fried_rice | mriedem_away: Thanks. There's more to the series, if you can. But in particular the top patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/620711/) is right near some of the report client singleton stuff you did. | 22:25 |
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| fried_rice | leakypipes: a moment of your time? | 22:46 |
| fried_rice | On this RMD thing, I agree as written it's way overblown and crosses a number of lines in the sand. | 22:47 |
| fried_rice | However, I think there are some nuggets of possibilities in there if it is scaled way back and framed in terms of the architecture we've got in place (and forthcoming). | 22:48 |
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| fried_rice | So like: | 22:52 |
| fried_rice | - standard resource classes for just the hard guaranteed minimums, e.g. MIN_LL_CACHE_MB and MIN_MEMORY_BW_MBYTES_SEC | 22:52 |
| fried_rice | - update_provider_tree creates inventory in appropriate providers for ^ (for Train, since we don't have numa modeling, "appropriate providers" == the compute node RP) based on querying RMD or whatever | 22:52 |
| fried_rice | - flavor can contain resource requests for those resource classes in the same way it does today | 22:52 |
| fried_rice | - spawn can pass RMD the allocation information to get the real resources attached to the VM | 22:52 |
| fried_rice | None of this dynamic allocation BS; no "burst max" values; communication with RMD via something other than a REST interface to a new service (like via a special file system; maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I think that's a thing). | 22:54 |
| fried_rice | Effectively it's just enabling a couple of new resource classes, plain and simple. | 22:54 |
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