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| openstackgerrit | JiaJunsu proposed openstack/nova master: Remove args(os=False) in monkey_patch https://review.openstack.org/568999 | 03:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhouxinyong proposed openstack/nova master: modify the avaliable link https://review.openstack.org/616905 | 03:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhouxinyong proposed openstack/nova master: Fix link in get-me-a-network-992eabc81b5e5347 https://review.openstack.org/617222 | 04:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: api-ref: Add a description about sort order https://review.openstack.org/616773 | 06:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Harden placement init under wsgi https://review.openstack.org/617297 | 11:30 |
| lyarwood | sean-k-mooney: ^ btw, backported your placement hardening patch if you have time this week to ack. | 11:31 |
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| sean-k-mooney | thanks that was actully going to be the thing i did next | 11:38 |
| sean-k-mooney | ill review instead | 11:38 |
| sean-k-mooney | lyarwood: how far back should we backport that chage? placement became mandaotry in pike right? i would think once its merged on rocky we would at least want it on queens but i would probaly backport to pike assuming the code is largely unchaged | 11:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jens Harbott (frickler) proposed openstack/nova master: Make supports_direct_io work on 4096b sector size https://review.openstack.org/616580 | 11:54 |
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| lyarwood | sean-k-mooney: yeah back to pike would be useful, feel free to post them now if you have time or I can look later today | 11:55 |
| sean-k-mooney | just reading a spec so ill post them shortly. | 11:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Martin Midolesov proposed openstack/nova master: [vmware] Cross vCenter live migration https://review.openstack.org/616590 | 14:15 |
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| ThomasWhite | Hey all, a quick question I couldn't find a reliable answer to. How often or what would qualify running the "nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows" command? Is this something I should view as a routine operation, or only a as-needed step? | 14:29 |
| ThomasWhite | Our galera cluster is stable and quick, no pressing need for it nor are we short on space, but just looking to implement any best practices | 14:29 |
| sean-k-mooney | ThomasWhite: that is really up to you. if you want to be proactive and keep the current level of perfromace you could proactivly run that command on a fixed cadance | 14:33 |
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| sean-k-mooney | ThomasWhite: but if you have monitoring in place to determin you perfromance is within your accpeatable critia then you could decide to only run it when that critia is not met | 14:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | ThomasWhite: if you upgrade every release then running it as part of your upgrade may be suffient if your cloud is relitivly stable with longer lived instnaces | 14:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | ThomasWhite: if you are running a ci environment where you are constantly spawning and deleteing instance then you might want to run it on a cron job every X weeks | 14:36 |
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| sean-k-mooney | i personally would only run it on upgrade or when needed as i dont like fixing things that are not broken but perhaps some operators can share there experiance? | 14:37 |
| ThomasWhite | Awesome - thanks sean-k-mooney. Would removal of individual entries from instance_actions do anything bad either - primarily as we need to take a look at a server (booting through rescue) but not leave the regular user of it with knowledge we've taken a look for compliance. | 14:38 |
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| ThomasWhite | Putting into single user could impact data reliability so booting into rescue is the preferred mechanism | 14:39 |
| sean-k-mooney | ThomasWhite: that i dont know the anwser too. it if your billing system cannot elimitate teh run time of the insance using o | 14:40 |
| sean-k-mooney | openstack to start the instance in that case my be ill advised | 14:40 |
| ThomasWhite | Oh we'd only be looking to hide the fact it booted into rescue if that makes sense, the instance needs to continue existing and will be put back to normal post-rescue | 14:40 |
| sean-k-mooney | yes i understand but you would need to remove two things first the fact ti was booted in rescue mode and second the fact it was running at all | 14:41 |
| sean-k-mooney | i dont know of a clean way to do that today | 14:42 |
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| ThomasWhite | sean-k-mooney thanks, I'll give it a go and let you know | 14:44 |
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| sean-k-mooney | i generally stay away from such topics as i dont really agree with them ethiclaly but there may be a case to be made for having a inspect action that worked like rescue and was admin only that did not recored itself in the db. | 14:46 |
| ThomasWhite | I agree, it isn't a public cloud situation, it's all data owned and operated internally though not to worry | 14:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | that said such an operator capablity could expose the operator to liablity or prevent certen workloads form being used on an openstack cloud as the teanat may nolonger beable to fulfil there compliance requirements as a result | 14:48 |
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| sean-k-mooney | ThomasWhite: right it the tanant and the operator is the same company it makes sense in some cases hence why it think there could be an argument made for support this more cleanly | 14:49 |
| sean-k-mooney | for public cloud i would be less keen on this but private could perhaps. | 14:49 |
| sean-k-mooney | i would certenly feel much more comfortable supporting a db manage command to do the clean up of the event or an api then recommending db surgery to do the same. | 14:50 |
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| ThomasWhite | I think as a project, nova should probably remain neutral on the politics of it, as it's much more a niche concern. My own is only a one-off regulatory issue rather than regular procedure, so happy to experiment and report back as an FYI for others | 14:54 |
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| ThomasWhite | Ok, I removed the entries from instance_actions_events first and then the instance_actions entry for it, and worked like a charm. Done the usual stretch of actions ie rebuild, restart, console etc and works a treat. | 15:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/rocky: Update resources once in update_available_resource https://review.openstack.org/612293 | 18:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/rocky: Handle online_data_migrations exceptions https://review.openstack.org/611701 | 18:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/rocky: Fix os-simple-tenant-usage result order https://review.openstack.org/613853 | 18:18 |
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| ivaat | hi all | 19:37 |
| ivaat | seeking help for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1801326 | 19:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1801326 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "CRITICAL keystonemiddleware.auth_token" [Undecided,New] | 19:37 |
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| naptastic | Is it possible, when instantiating a VM, to install more than one SSH public key? | 23:57 |
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